/dsg/ - Dark Souls General

>sacred flame hit 360°
>lifehunt scythe doesn't
wew

Where are the Heineken beer cans?

Is /dsg/ arena still going on?

>Shield arm armored despite it being protected by the fucking shield
>Sword arm unarmored despite it being the arm that gets more exposed on offense

>They keep getting it wrong with every asymmetric armor set, much like using the Lucerne backwards and other fuckups because dumb japs cannot into medieval Europe
>Fromdrones unironically believe they're correct and that the sword arm needs to be unarmored due to "weight" issues or other retarded arguments that assume medieval arms and armor weighed 2 tons and severely crippled mobility/range of motion

Two nukes were not enough.

Those were in the trash/muck puddles, I actually think they were removed once it became a widely known thing

Weren't those in 1? Or was that a bag of chips, I forget.

What is the penalty of using crow quills throwing knifes when out of FP?

And until next time, martyrsbrigade is.. out!

I love how pumped up he sounds here.

youtube.com/watch?v=Fj8y11UcVmA

It kind of seems like purple invaders should be able to interact with enemy monsters in invasions. That would make sense as a wildcard summon wouldn't it. I know I'm late to the party on this one but it's still a letdown..

I just really like the idea of being able to invade and force yourself onto someone as an ally...or enemy. I guess I could always help a host kill reds but meh.

>invade
>4v1
>kill a few phantoms
>eventually estus runs out and die to r1 spam while host continues to summon phantoms
>point down
Are arenas more fun? All I'm getting is this shit.
I'd take more haveldads in the forest over this bullshit, at least you should backstab them out of estus.

>tfw the quick reply window and captchas fuck up and you can't post mommy rosaria untl about 20 posts in
I'M SORRY MOMMY

God I forgot how much I HATE the way his character and anyone elses "waifu"looks

I think they're just basing it on jousting armor, where that does make sense. Except no one fights on foot or on a battlefield in jousting armor.
But frogmouth helms look cool so I'll forgive it.

For the umpteenth time, the beercan was in the GoS puddle, not the gutter pillar
Is this bait? A shield doesn't make you immune, you still need protection against bashing. The sword arm needs to be agile. Go check some actual armor. The left arm is always equally if not more armored than the right. It's not just a matter of weight, armor just doesn't allow as extensive movement

I think it's supposed to be his wife.

How much AR should I strive for on an axe?

>using the Lucerne backwards
The Mirdan hammer in Demon's was the hammer side to the enemy.
I think the intention here was to make a galberd that inflicts thrust damage.

Reminder that the main fuckup with purple summons is that the purple gets NO reward if the host makes it to the boss fog. You have zero reason to summon a grape or trust a grape because they're heavily incentivized to backstab you if you don't get invaded by a dark spirit.

>lucerne backwards
Do you think the spike side is just for decoration? Really it should use both sides for different moves, but there is no "backwards".

...Well then

>dumb japs cannot into medieval Europe
You have to admit though, From does medieval Europe a hundred times better than most other Nip RPGs - and even a great deal of western RPGs. As you and points out, a lot of the armour is impractical or would have been tournament stuff in the real world, but I'll take a single Dark Souls armour set that even slightly resembles a real life set of armour (with stuff like asymetrically armoured arms, closed helms and surcoats) over a hundred shitty World of Warcraft or generic RPG armour sets with inch thick metal, giant pauldrons and nothing but open face helmets.

I've got about 430 on my man serpent hatchet but it's a bit of an odd case since it's classed as an axe type weapon but has the shotel effect. Or is supposed to anyway, I'm not even sure how the shotel effect is supposed to work and the few times I've tried looking it up didn't yield any informative results. It's also a faith build so I don't know how that would translate into other builds at all.

>armor just doesn't allow as extensive movement
Blatantly false, medieval plate armor was deliberately made to have more range of movement than the human body, specifically to not hinder the wearer. You can't afford to restrict movement in warfare.
The main issues with armor were heat (though not -as- bad as to "cook" the person wearing it as weebs would have you believe), vision (this is why a lot of visors on the more popular helmets in history are liftable if not outright removable), and ability to hear.

2v2 ARENAS still up!

PASS dsg

PC

Come have some fun! :D

Shotels ignored 50% of shield damage reduction in DaS2.
They ignore like 10% in DaS3 so the shotel effect is mostly useless.

Reminder that DaS3 pvp and co-op is total shit as the PVE is trivial and any pvp incentive is ruined by the fact that invasions are total shit due to the PVE being even more trivial with summons.

They're still fucking miles away from something like Witcher 3.
They can't shake off those Jap ass weeb tendencies.

Yea pretty well. Although one could argue that the rewards aren't much of a deal anyways. Still the what's the point lul.
At least you can be a risky as fuck bodyguard.

Oh well. It's not like I ever really ran into people using shields anyway and if I did it would probably work better to just kick it and get a riposte unless that's disabled on players.

As an addendum, most of the armor tropes like restricted movement and armored shield arms stem from jousting armor, where you're basically strapped to your horse in a borderline immobile state and the armor has to minimize potential damage from having a lance crash into you as much as possible. The reason you armor the shield arm in a joust is because you don't use a shield the same way as in warfare; "blocking" is something you avoid as much as possible in warfare, you use the shield to parry, to divert force, not to absorb it as it would in a joust.

Yhorm lived in the Profaned Capital, even if he wasn't originally from there, which is canonically beneath Irithyll. They're in the same place, even before the lands converged (as Sulyvahn discovered the Profaned Capital a long time ago). So either no, no Lord of Cinder was from Drangleic, or if the Profaned Capital *is* part of Drangleic then that means Drangleic and Lordran *are* the same place, or at least overlap.

>Still no bloodborne dashes
Why even dodge?

you do know that when fighting a shield user you do anything you can to get around the shield, yeah?

your sword basically is your right hand's shield

desu if you ignore the "DaS2 is not canon" meme then the Profaned Capital is likely Eleum Loyce, with Irithyll built over it.

Alright, so I fucked up Greirat's questline and now I don't have access to Exploding Bolts. What's the next best thing?

Knight's crossbow with lightning bolts?
Black Bow of Pharsis with Dark Arrows?
Arbalest with Heavy Bolts?

range of movement =/= mobility

which was the real main problem of wearing full armor

a fully armored limb is going to both move slower and become fatigued twice as fast, and when you think about it your sword arm is going to be moving the most out of all your limbs

having armor on either the left or right arm and not the other has pros and cons and i've seen real armor that does either

yes

NG+

This much

>Katanas do fucktons of damage "cut beautifully" and induce bleeding and are the bestest weapon ever
>Hammers and maces are compared to other weapon types not very effective
>Avelyn

Thanks Japan

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Here you go

DeS and DaS1/3 are pure armor porn at times
>switch from light armor to heavy armor
>armor clatters nicely as you walk
>foes can hear you approaching from further away if you have heavy armor due to the noise made by walking in the armor

Honestly, I just wish there would sometimes be more pronounced differences between damage types and their effect on armor, like slash weapons should have less impact on armored foes and in contrast strike would have less effect on padded / leather / light armor.

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come have fun in the arena!

oh my

when are we getting our customary chaos blade buff? what will this buff look like?

Wrong. Your shield is your right hand's shield.
That being said, you can certainly parry with the sword while going for a strike with the edge of the shield.
You do know the wild overly telegraphed attack animations in Dark Souls where your shield arm points behind your back for no reason isn't realistic, right?

Is there any good looking heavy sets?

>Host starts backpedaling for WoB summon
>Wait for WoBfag to show up, desperate for an ear
>Waste his time
>Black Crystal out
How can I be more of a dick when I do this?
I love it.

Yeah

>that head on the host

>Honestly, I just wish there would sometimes be more pronounced differences between damage types and their effect on armor, like slash weapons should have less impact on armored foes and in contrast strike would have less effect on padded / leather / light armor.

This was a thing in 1 and 2. Scaled enemies like Man-Serpents took much lower damage from slashing weapons, and in 2 the sheer amount of heavily armored knight enemies meant that weapons like the Mace tore through PvE with greater ease than swords.

I haven't noticed anything in 3 besides certain enemies being weak to fire or lightning.

Cathedral Knights and Black Iron.

Hammers and maces were the best weapon type in DaS2 PvE.

I have an unreasonable amount of hatred towards this dweeb

My most recent playthrough was with powerstance maces with magic weapon, tore through shit

is there, like, ANY possible way to take less damage from things besides wearing full Havels?

absorption is a fucking meme, jesus, it doesn't do shit

>get hit by Lothric Castle hollow soldier
>takes 30% of HP

He's pretty obnoxious when he's talking about his personal life, like how he's a vegetarian feminist with an agender life partner or whatever, and his views on some arms and armor are somewhat narrow-minded, but at least he's good about citing sources and not claiming his guesses as fact. Usually.

There's other YouTube channels for people interested in this stuff too, like Schola Gladiatora, Lindybeige, etc.

Hammers were pretty decent in DaS1 pve, Reinforced Club wrecked anus
Hammers kicked ass in DaS2 pve, especially dual wielded
Tonitrus and Bloodletter untricked do ungodly damage in BB
Hammers are really fucking good in PvE and decent in PvP in DaS3

But katanas? Katanas are generally mediocre in PvE
Using a katana in DaS1 is suffering
Katanas break quickly in DaS2
Are just underwhelming in general in DaS3
Chikage seems good until you realize just how much damage everything else does without % hp drain / sec

I saw the graph for the softcaps but, I haven't played much and was wondering where do most people cap their VIG?

Propaned Capital is very likely to be Eleum Loyce like that other user said
>Profaned(aka Chaos) flame
>Oracle is mentioned(Alsanna?)

katanas were good in demon's souls

At least DaS1 had the decency to recolor the newbie hollows into CRYSTAL HOLLOWS to explain why they suddenly deal 20 times more damage. 2 had them not be hollow in the Memories, but living humans, which is questionable but at least still different.
DaS3 is such a hackjob with borderline MMORPG tier design decisions like arbitrarily stronger versions of the exact same enemy.

I'm doing my first playthrough and I';m really regretting pumping str for the greatsword, it's so fucking slow and if you're not 100% accurate with your swings it goes straight through enemies.

I think DS3 has spoiled me with "corner cuts" on my large weapons, specially with 1.08 greatswords.

I just feel like I made a massive mistake pumping souls and stat investment for this shit weapon and would of been better off running a 1h weapon + greatshield or even a dumbass estoc.

>hit by lothric castle UGS knight on NG
>80% of health gone
>hit by Yhorm on NG+7
>50% of health gone

Is this okay?

That's 100% wrong but ok buddy

Iron Flesh.

Kill Dragonslayer Armor and Yhorm for me and I'll buy you all the bolts you need.

Can you read?

True. I'd dare say Witcher 3 is the best medieval Europe RPG in terms of clothing and armour. I'd love if Dark Souls had more non-armour sets that aren't 'fancy dress,' 'fancy robes' and 'big trench coat.' I need some peasant tunics, tight breeches and caps, man.

I understand the Propaned Capital being Eleum Loyce thing but it still sits oddly with me. Given that it's an underground city some way below Anor Londo, it makes the most sense (to me at least) that it's built on the ruins of New Londo.

Yeah, its just that from my experiences (mostly irl) people keep parroting stuff this guy says as gospel in any sort of historical combat context, even saw an invader the other day with the guy's nickname.
+ I'm a kenjutsu practitioner of 10 years, nippon steel > yurop sticks

what? they were god tier for pve

Don't bows kinda suck in 3 compared to crossbows?

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Crow Talons

It's another case of From trying to fix an issue from a previous game and going full retard.

>armor is worthless now because of poise/defense stacking and min/maxing
>power stance gone because of helix/mastodon shit
>SM, weapon level tiers and the way invaders prioritize hosts with phantoms because of twinking
>blessed infusion made absolutely worthless because of how good it was in DeS
>backstabs way harder to do because of constant fishing (this is a good change though)

Nothing compared to Rapier early game and RIT lategame.

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>Spear Chucker made it in the collage

Surprised, but happy

At some point I refuse to believe it's so many idiots replying to a tripfag every single time that I can more easily think he just gives himself replies to get more replies.

Took down the wolf pack and Priscilla 2 frozen boogaloo. Is that really all their was to the DLC? I heard it was short an I appreciate that they made the PVP area, but still seems like less than what I expected.

DaS1 had the total rape-tier Torch Hollows when you return to the Asylum.

Demon's Souls makes the soldiers in 1-3 much tougher as well without modifying the enemies themselves much.

DaS3 has the Demon's Souls approach :
>enemies are technically the same as the ones in the start of the game
>to make them play out a little differently, they are given more access to items such as healing grasses and Undead Hunter Charms.
>the enemies being used in more clever combination gives an illusion of better A.I

As long as you follow the rules I'm not picky

Rule #1

If by nippon steel you mean polearms, sure, they're cool.

Yeah, as an offhand. Their r2s were the worst in the game
They cost 10x as much to upgrade as any other weapon and >pure bladestone

join coop matches on PC!
pw is dsg!

I don't even mind normally, I just think "lmao let's add a new ultra greatsword lothric knight that can kill a player from over 1000 hp in two hits in NG+0" is dumb.