Stop, if we are going to count it properly, it's 3 for 1 when you manage to deny a Last Word.
Jacob Stewart
Her jap voice is pure sex. Too bad she won't see any play in Aggro Bats and Control Blood is a meme.
Cameron Lopez
Aw shit nigga, animated Beelzebub babyyy (Steam player, first animated was Odin)
Bentley Hughes
Damn, better put him to use then. Tried him recently, and he's definitely solid even in aggro shadow.
Tyler Watson
>It's 3 for 1 when you manage to deny a Last Word Playful Necromancer is a 3 for 1 when you hit 2 1 health minions. Should she be nerfed too?
Sebastian Davis
Rate my dick
Zachary Peterson
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Ian Butler
Most of the time, she gets herself killed from trading into other 4-evo, so no.
Kevin Torres
>class with no shadows plays ptp ??
James Sanders
5 wins rewards vary with chance, the unluckiest draw is 1 pack+ 200 rupies+ 50 vials The luckiest scenarios are 1 pack + 300 rupies, or 2 packs + 200 rupies.
Hudson Walker
>He doesn't know
Alexander Allen
>DShift thinks he has me done for after clearing my board with the help of one emergency DShift >emote "Wow" and "What to do..." to mess with him >He responds by "Interesting.." and then starts threatening back >I drop my Genesis Dragon and swing >"Checking match results in 90"
Messing with DShifters shouldnt be this fun
He used most of the angelic snipes and magic missiles on my face since I spent the early turns ramping up. He already spent his wind blasts and so on the smaller dragons
He also didnt get his card drawers for what its worth, basically he thinks he has to use one DShift to ensure he doesnt die. Unfortunately I was sitting on two Genesis Dragons anyway
Tyler Baker
But user, she can take out minions with more than 4 health and can use the ghosts for soul conversions to get extra value, while Priest of the Cudgel only does really well in specific situations. Clearly she's the one who should be nerfed! Stop being a retard, the only cards that Haven needs toned down are Aria and Garuda
Charles Parker
ITT: Cards that mean you just lost your arena game
Jackson Watson
20th for thighs
Lincoln Long
Remember when everyone was bitching for Otohime and Satan nerfs? Remember when they never happened?
I can't wait for everyone complaining about cudgel to 'mysteriously' disappear once the next patch comes out and Haven isn't FOTM anymore.
Jeremiah White
Every fuck thread
Julian Cox
Otohime still needs a fucking nerf. >Midrange Sword once again in t1 Fuck that shit.
Mason Gray
>Priest of the Cudgel only does really well in specific situations Okay I don't think Cudgel is OP but come on now. Specific situations? Really?
Wyatt Hill
>Complaining about midrange sword being in T1 >When Forest has MULTIPLE decks in T1 and has had a deck in T1 since fucking June
This bitchass newfag needs to learn.
Adam Young
>wahhh my havencancer and forestcancer is getting countered by a deck that needs 7(seven)(I I I I I I I) Legendaries to function
Caleb Sanders
>t hagplayer
Just have Cudgel destroy instead of banish. And I can guarantee you guys will be whining.
Ian Rivera
4 for 1 since your opponent will trade something into him.
Jace Moore
He needs something at 3health or less to banish. Meanwhile Dragon Warrior can trade up if he wants to.
Both have their strengths and weaknesses and you thinking cudgel is some magic OP card makes you no smarter than the average idiot complaining that Floral Fencer needs to be deleted from the game.
Michael Cox
When his banish doesn't matter he's worse than dragon warrior and a lot of the time he does as much work as wardrobe raider. >Bitchass newfag Fucking please user. I think Otohime needs a good knocking because midrange sword has been tier 1 in every fucking meta this game has had; my hatred of her dates back to when the game first launched here.
Carter Harris
someone feed me a control sword deck, I got 2 alex and 1 leo
Cooper Bennett
>draw solid pairs for swordcraft >last pair has Olivia >get no 1 or 2 drops first few matches >get paired up against haven player with almost full garuda >proceed to go 0/5 Why have you forsaken me RNG
Wyatt Rivera
5 for 1 since he'll then forget to take a turn while shitposting about him being overpowered
Bentley Carter
>seven Don't you only need six? >2 Otohime >2 Seibah >2 Tsubaki
Caleb Morgan
>Fucking please user You are a newfag though. Sword hasn't always been T1 whereas Forest has been top T1 since fucking July.
Thanks for outing yourself though.
Cooper Price
Wew lads Thanks for hell's unleasher
Luis Jackson
add them to your midrange deck
Mason Lopez
Forest has not been top T1 since July faggot. Before PtP was popularized Forest was only T2 with combo forest. Nice try though.
Andrew Rivera
Why do DShifters take so long for their turns
Isabelle's jugs are bothering me
Luis Edwards
good luck
Angel Powell
Pray tell how often you have a follower with defense more than 3 on fucking turn 4.
Landon Phillips
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Angel Hernandez
Cheapest entry level deck?
Liam Bennett
>2 tsubaki >1 otohime those numbers should be swapped
Nathaniel Powell
depends on the player I think, I run 3 Otohimes, 3 Aurelias and 1 Tsubaki.
Luke Ross
Midrange sword wants 3 Otomemes.
PtP was popularized in June/July by Rizer.
Austin Jenkins
You know you can use Cudgel on turns other than 4.
Justin Sanchez
possibly, I just took the first thing that looked alright for user.
Thomas Miller
the game's trying so fucking hard to give me 5 wins
Gavin Carter
>0 1 drop >4 2 drop I hope you dont get aggroed down user. Otherwise you'll be golden.
Jordan Gutierrez
>that curve Good luck with that, user.
Michael Perry
I want to fuck those tits
John Green
It's debatable how many tsubakis/otohimes/aurelias you need. 2x of each is probably the closest to being "correct" I wrote that decklist/guide and when I played it I had it more teched towards aggro since that's all I was facing so I dropped an Otohime for an Aurelia
Carson Harris
>tfw you kaleidoscope 1 turn Beast Call Arias
Owen Hill
Banner aggro
Juan Powell
It's also the turn where baldy makes the largest tempo swing.
People comparing Dragon Warrior with the priest failed to look at a bigger scope.
What class has a mass removal for 6PP? Hagcraft What class with a removal that kills off followers with 3 defense for 2PP? Hagcraft What class with substantial draw and heal mechanic complete with board presence? Hagcraft
Benjamin Gray
y-you too
Brandon Diaz
>salty cuck.png but the one who is salty is you, user
Daniel Myers
Never
Even in A0 here, Havens tend to be Storm Haven and sometimes Elana Haven
Meanwhile Sword is most commonly Banner
Isaiah Davis
And instead of addressing any of those issues, you want to hit the card that's completely on par with other classes' 4-drops because it's the one that causes you the most asspain.
Leo Rodriguez
I'd sooner craft 2 otohimes than 2 tsubakis though.
Matthew Edwards
>Looking at things in a vacuum >Again
Hagcraft had everything you listed pre-DE and yet the best deck it had was T3. The obvious logical conclusion that anyone can come to is that Aria/Garuda are the problem with DE's release.
Thomas Powell
thinking
Elijah Hall
People complaining about Baldy also forget something even more important. Which class has the highest winrate in the game? Forestcraft, not Havencraft. Which deck among Haven performs the best on ladder? Sprint Haven. You'll notice both Sprint and Elana run Cudgel, and yet Elana is cruising with a 47% winrate. You'll also remember that Haven sucked before DE and had all those cards. In short, it's not the fucking cudgel, it's Aria and Garuda. But keep whining about cudgel like a shitter. I look forward to hearing you complain about how bullshit whichever class' 4pp evolve card is when they're tier 1. Shouldn't you be whining about Floral Fencer too?
Gabriel Cooper
ganbare user
Kayden Smith
But user, I'm not the one bitching about being dumpstered by a bald nigger from an e-CCG on a Chinese knitting image-board.
Keep crying though, your tears sustain me.
Michael Collins
>comparing golden to bronze >comparing cards of two different class I replied the same thing in /hsg/ like half an hour ago. cmon
Wheel of Fortune Cup decklists for anyone interested in tournament-teched lists.
Adrian Jones
Yo, does anybody have a webm of animated Lucifer?
Daniel Moore
I do have to wonder though: Why does no one complaining about Forest? In fact, we even had a stupid user earlier try to claim it wasn't a solid T1 craft since fucking July.
Is everyone here secretly a cancer Forest main or something?
Jason Allen
My only problem is Aria. When I lose to Garuda, it's a game that was close enough not to mind or one I was already losing significantly. I wouldn't call him win more, and I do think he's pushed, but he rarely swings a game.
When they turn 2 Aria into turn 3 Dogma on play, or it lines up with Cudgel, or they evolve tiger and put out two dogs, that's when I'm salty.
Ian Thomas
Forest being OP is a given But Havenhags constantly defend their cancer decks, so it gets shat on more
Kayden Reyes
That's easy. First off, people complain about Forest all the time, just not as much. Second, Forest only really starts being cancer AA and beyond, because unlike Sprint Haven, Forest is difficult to play and requires actual skill. So shitters stuck in the low ranks haven't fought against good players destroying them with Tempo Forest/PtP.
Tyler Mitchell
Even considering rarities, Garuda seems to have too much stuff loaded into 6 PP
3 damage burn and also 3 turn countdown reduction on an amulet vs 4 damage burn that may not even proc if you dont have enough shadows
Even considering golden vs bronze, this seems too much
Owen Perez
Interestingly, the winner of this did not have Cudgel in his ElanaSeraph list.
William Young
A reminder to everyone that a deck that won may be good in a tournament but might not be good for ladder climbing.
If you netdeck, make the right adjustments.
Daniel Ward
>Why does no one complaining about Forest? They do, you just won't see it too much here because everyone know's they're fucked, at least Haven has a little deniability, Forest doesn't.
Henry Sanchez
Being in A2 right now, I never have problem with Forestcraft. It's all about gaining board control and denying them one by killing off their fairies or you will be staring at a fat ancient elf.
Roach is only a threat if you refuse to put up wards.
Isaac Russell
I would say start small and just make aria's cmc 3 instead of 2.
Ayden Cox
I feel like most of the posters are ranked way below AA or even B so all they play against is Haven, Banner sword and Bat aggro. Mostly Haven.
Jeremiah Sullivan
That's because Garuda is a completely bullshit overpowered card.
Ethan Thompson
I wouldn't even compare them, just take Garuda in a vacuum. He's too much and they have admitted to pushing Haven in the DE expansion in an attempt to get it out of it's pre-DE rut. They just went too far is all.
Adam Cooper
>Forest being OP is a given You sound like a cuck. Don't speak to me again.
>First off, people complain about Forest all the time, Not here.
>So shitters stuck in the low ranks haven't fought against good players destroying them with Tempo Forest/PtP. That makes sense though. Haven dominates ladder until around AA where Forest takes over, so I guess the conclusion we can come to is that everyone here is a shitter.
Jason Clark
What did I just say?
Adam Powell
you probably defend maelstorm portal vs arcane explosion too?
>comparing basic to adventure >comparing cards of two different class >hehe xD
Robert Young
>tfw Arisa could just kill you with PtP, but she rubs it in with a 6 damage roach to the face
Justin Price
Does this have more rmf than HS?
Dominic Kelly
Maelstrom portal was a terrible card for the game and it's really stupid they gave Shaman a spell that's just a 100% better version of the class based on spells
Ayden Parker
Leonidas is just a win more card. Vial that shit.
Camden Howard
>rmf Translate that into English.
Are you braindamaged or have got him confused with someone else? His amulet is like the fucking opposite of that.
Jaxon Long
RNG? No, not even close
Adrian Phillips
>>Forest being OP is a given >You sound like a cuck. Don't speak to me again. You retarded ass can keep being clueless then
Jason Mitchell
someone said the best way to balance garuda is to only have his face damage be based on how much he lowed the countdown of an amulet by
so turn 8 aria+garudo is still the same, but you can no longer just play him for the face damage.
still just as much potential power, but now requires some set up.
Michael Lopez
I see people run Sledgehammer over Cudgel in a lot of game two decks, though honestly I have no clue why. I'm certain they have a specific match up in mind but I don't know which one it could be. Something more top heavy I imagine.
Eli Thompson
HS is imbalanced from A to Z. Lets not go there.
Juan Powell
I'm really starting to worry that people here don't understand what win more means. Leonidas is not a win more card in the slightest. Are you forgetting he gives everyone rush? He's a late-game win condition that grants you absolutely insane value.
Tyler Rodriguez
Speak in plain english user, what the fuck is a rmf anyways?
Charles Long
For me, I personally think that because at my rank, everyone and their mother has angel barrage
At least for me, using my dragon deck, i have enough tech cards against fat wards and dragon wings against fairies
Jason Lewis
>play arena >don't have any cards to play first 2-3 turns while opponent has perfect curve worst feel ever
Ryder Brooks
It's an unconditional removal, which is usually not included in Elana decks. A tech card basically.
Parker Clark
GOSH ITS CHILLY IN HERE
Camden Brown
It lets you kill a lot of the things in the Forest matchup that Cudgel can't. Also it being cheaper means you can play it with other cards.