/rlg/ - Roguelike General

What you're saying is that if I use the roller I could get better stats than with point-based?

Roller just results in you achieving what you'd make if you had point buy or rerolling until you do unless it's like PCB and stats don't matter outside of an easier start

angband is a single player videogames
so point buy

Zorkmids are pretty valueless in nethack, ADoM has gold exploits and other than the fact that getting money without exploiting the game is really really simple it's nigh-useless

DCSS can have runs where you never buy a single thing

Money in roguelikes is pretty meaningless.

Real life.

Ah, ok.

>death scythe
The absolute masochist.

>masochists still playing death swords

when will this madness end

>Oh Nikola, sweet time for some #freexp

And then I received a grim reminder that I haven't actually fought him as a non-Gargoyle in a very long time.

It was actually pretty strong once you get rBase and some slays. I think randarts only helped, since I got some early speed off of them.

This death scythe form seems worthless compared to the previous one, though.

>new DCSS randart names
>the True Pharaoh
>the Pharaoh's Fist

well they haven't removed THOSE but the other names were fun too so that's bad

Well I did it online this time, how about this? It took me 10 hours as estimated webtiles is just too slow to be fun for me

use a server that's nearer

CeHu, cleared Lair and Orc and Dungeon but got neither rPois or MR. Where now? I don't want to go to Snake without rPois, don't want to go to Shoals or Slime and I can't really do Elf without MR.

>chei worshipper
>too slow to be fun
We know it's you, back into the forest spriggan scum

Shame we can't just use the crawl-tiles client and have it shown as webtiles.

Forced to use console if you want to play locally and online at the sametime. Sucks.

fixed this shit in pseudo:

github.com/GenericPseudonym/pseudoelliposchengband/commit/fcd5ca430a29f7b8d534cec4afb5963ac77a4613

I only play real roguelikes

>rougelite
Wrong thread. Only roguelikes here. Abominations go.

how about something turnbased on a square grid with permadeath

If you got defenses you can do snake and shaols fine. You dakkastorm. Otherwise you go to the abyss and hell

What part of Roguelike general wasn't clear? all the ideas you need are right here. archive.org/details/msdos_Rogue_1983

Okay, ?Sil /Hw to the rescue. Glad I took the time to relax, think it through, and evaluate my options instead of just panicking and dying.

you may have trouble getting non-shitpost answers because this thread is pretty hostile to roguelikes (even some here play them, they're not discussed here)

But if you want some ideas for roguelike elements to bring into a roguelite dev idea, try playing a few hours with a spread of existing very-different-from-one-another roguelikes. You don't have to try to win these (that would take a new player like...as long as it would take to make a new game), but get a sense of what they do and how to inform your design choices.

I suggest trying:
Sil - the shortest and most elegant Angband variant. Consider giving the short manual a read too (it's kindof like a short dnd rulebook)

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup - the most highly played roguelike out there because it has pretty tiles and most players have difficulty jumping right into ascii games

Nethack - The roguelike closest to the original Rogue in gameplay, with "the devs think of everything" design, great humor in its text lines, and interesting in-game ways of punishing and rewarding the player as they learn

Demon - A party-management roguelike, probably the least-roguelikey game allowed in this thread imo, but it also does some neat things the others do not.

Brogue - A clean, elegant roguelike with neat environment/item interactions and some good lessons for interface design

Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - An open-ended zombie survival roguelike, heavy on crafting.

Infra Arcana - A lovecraftian 1920s (I think) roguelike, short and sweet, great atmosphere

Ancient Domains of Mystery - Nah just kidding fuck that game.

Also, lurk more. This thread discusses gameplay and concepts a lot. If you frame things from a purely roguelike perspective you'll be more likely to get constructive replies. This thread really is not for roguelite discussion after all.

remember to post your inevitable splat so you we can laugh at-I mean with you

God I hate Entropy Weavers so much.

Would you reccomend dynahack over nethack as the *hack representative?

>DECj
>5 starting strength
Do I put points into strength or do I just dump it all into dexterity?

To add on to this I'd also suggest playing The Slimy Lichmummy.

First level of rDisenchant. Still missing confusion, even though you only need two essences to gain it.

oh I guess dyna would be quite fine too. I wouldn't do *BOTH* because the point was to suggest a spread, but dyna can certainly serve instead just fine.

oh good point, TSL is another one that's very different from that list

What music do you listen to when playing roguelikes?

depends whether or not you want to worship Trog

Confusion resist on weapons is crazy uncommon, I guess. I think hell lances can have a random high resist on them (?), so EVENTUALLY you'll be able to get it
or maybe they always have rdisench, not sure

>dex or str
>as a caster

Uhhh, why would you do that again?

>muh EV
>muh stat drain deaths

Anyone have any good RCFiles for console mode?
Thanks in advance lads.

I'm happy to see you responding to my post and showing your great achievement, congratulations!

Not mine but angbandrc is incredible
gist.github.com/MichaelDiBernardo/1e782f8644b217d1f0e4

(also elliptic's and/or marvinpa's at least, they both play console)
(and some other peoples' who may not want name mention)

somafm.com

Usually I play with no music or sound, or sometimes with a stream/video in the background. If I am playing music, it could be from a wide variety of sources, but recently-ish I've listened to electroswing (caravan palace, parov stelar, etc) or Amon Tobin (e.g. I really like the Bricolage album)

But usually silence.

Is there a way to see which webtiles server is closest to you

open up a console and ping each one

Undickery.

did this help you? Did you figure out how to do it?

now to figure out rc file garbage in .19

copy it from rlgrobin and adjust parts of it

does rlgrobin still bind tab to controlq when you pick mibe

No fun allowed.

10/10

I never tried desu

READ MUNDANITY!

okay i checked and it doesnt

somebody (trigger warning) removed it

Finally beat Crawl as Offline MiBe

Which autism simulator should I spend my time with next?

The minimalism of Sil?
That Lovecraft RL? (though I know nothing about it but the nice setting)
Do I download PCB and spend three days recognizing the interface?

Regular vidya is dull and DCSS is too vanilla, I need more roguelikes

DDA

pseudoellimpaposchengband

Nethack4

Infra Arcana

Note that I removed it because it didn't work.
If anyone played mibe on the account, it set up a macro then called that macro when you press tab.
The problem with using a macro to do this is that when Johnny GoodMuCK wants to not bother with ctrl+dir for 7 rats and presses tab, he would then quit the game because the macro was saved by someone else (maybe).
The other issue is that it gives the save macros prompt when the mibe quits.

Bad execution of a mediocre joke imo. Blnt.

ADOM, it's the best roguelike

the number of my post decides
0-1 DynaHack
2-3 Sil
4-5 Infra Arcana
6-7 Brogue
8-9 crawl lmao

>get Marilith form
>it's actually worse than the death imp form

Why are shields so fucking shit?

Elbereth Archer confirmed

;_;7

Where can I find a build guide for DoomRL? The only guides I've found where for ealier versions like 0.9.9.3

Based postcount guiding user to the light.

>elbereth
don't you mean edain?
>3
also yeah I'm glad I rolled him a three (3)

build guide:
pick one of the master traits that you like, probably one of the weapon-specific ones for your favorite weapon type
take all the prerequisite traits
don't take any of the blocked traits

contrats now u have a build

To Middle-Earth it is

Literally just grab an ultimate and Whizkid and that'll probably take you until the end of the game.

user you don't understand, I can't decide by myself, I need someone to tell me what to do

For example, let's say I want to make a shotgun build

Tell me the exact traits I need to pick for a good one

>For example, let's say I want to make a shotgun build
>Tell me the exact traits I need to pick for a good one
The shotgun traits.

The game makes building pretty easy because all the high-tier traits have a set of requirements and things you can't take with them. Just build around those.

No, An archer that uses elbereth rope-a-dope. Have you not meme'd with the most meme build???

pick marine
aim for the army of the dead master trait

get shottyman ASAP then do whatever the fuck you want cause it doesn't matter

But there are several of those, you have to tell me which ones I need to choose

This, but don't try to make a dodge build because everything in the endgame ignores dodge anyway.

>army of the dead
>not shottyhead scout with nano shrapnel

>reliably getting nano anything
some people play normal modes instead of Ao100 user

also gunrunner instead of shottyhead on shotgun scout is neat too

>You can read your library to your NPC to make them a real bro now

youtube.com/watch?v=bE52V6vwSfU

The OST is nice

>start playing webtiles
>open inventory
>cant scroll down to view items
how

Are you using the arrow keys?

Here are mine, if you want to look:
crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.19/nikheizen.rc
crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.19/neizenel.rc

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wat gaem

Doing god's jerb, user.

Undickery ++ ungood.

How's Ironman PCB? Is it as bad as it looks?
Is it as boring as it looks?

Looks good my man, thanks.

>15 casts later
Guess magic dart isn't good enough

Wyvern zombie is kind of rough for an ossuary, but you should have left through the portal. It can't follow.

And yeah, magic dart is pretty awful for anything other than battlesphere procs and d1-d2.