Who wants to make a new thread and let this one rot where it belongs?
Jackson White
I want to fuck your daughter, possibly with you.
Benjamin Hernandez
BACK OFF ?!?!?!?
Henry Jenkins
Luna is not for waifuing. She is a pure daughter!
Ayden Hughes
Arisa, raw and hard
Julian Parker
>Discord faggotry Alright real thread where?
Brody Wilson
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Dominic Rogers
Literally make it yourself
Bentley Nguyen
user, this is your mother and I got that camera you asked for.
Where's that screenshot you wanted to show me?
Kayden Gomez
REAL THREAD
Juan Lee
>another day of autistic thread wars
Adam Sanders
Just report them and move on
Cameron Scott
Didn't we just have thread wars yesterday?
Alexander Walker
Rune Dragon Blood
Which for take 2?
Leo Brooks
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Juan Campbell
Dragon for winning Rune for memes Blood for losing
Samuel Collins
MOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Jordan Carter
Reminder the problem with haven is Sacred Plea, the other cards are balanced (albeit biased against shadowcraft)
Justin Perez
GET FUCKING BENT DORK ENABLER
CHARLOTTE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FARTE
Charles Hill
THIS WAY SOLDIER'S, THIS WAY.
You'd understand if you were around for the discord shitstorm.
Christopher Bennett
DO NOT BULLY THE DORK
Julian Reyes
DELETE THIS
Carter Richardson
I was. Thread wars are still autistic.
Logan Gray
Nah. Nope.
Anthony Roberts
How can sacred plea be a problem when it's the worst card draw in the game?
Oliver Ramirez
I want to feed Luna dick milk so she grows up big and strong
Easton Phillips
>I just lost to a banner deck with frontline general and charlotte I'm genuinely confused if he just lucked out and got his two late game drops in hand or of he's actually a control deck with tokens and banners.
Jackson Ortiz
>1 pp draw 2 cards t. Havenscum
Brandon Thomas
Frontguard is run in midrange pretty often. You'll know if he's control if he starts dropping Aurelias and White Paladins everywhere.
Evan Russell
Are you going to say Priest of the Cudgel is bad because Floral Fencer exists and is better? In the context of Haven, Sacred Plea is busted. The reason Haven is so strong right now is because Sacred Plea enables a strong draw engine, especially when paired with Prism Priestess. It's a class whose aggro variant can go longer than other aggro decks before running out of steam and its control variants have consistent draw to get their win conditions.
Nolan Peterson
No.
Easton Campbell
>after 3 turns
Isaiah Phillips
Let's double team your daughter.
Hunter Barnes
>the reason Haven is so strong right now Aria and Garuda.
Logan Johnson
Yeah, maybe he was running the mid-range variant of banner. I'm still confused as fuck though.
Benjamin Diaz
>It's a class whose aggro variant can go longer than other aggro decks before running out of steam it's not true aggro because it has nothing early game it trades early game aggression fully for early-mid power and it runs out of steam maybe a turn later than banner and bat
Angel Roberts
Garuda doesn't explain elana/seraph which has a better winrate than garuda. Aria might be overtuned but the draw engine is what's universally good for every Haven deck.
Logan Reed
Any class that can end the game on turn 5 is aggro. Sprint Haven does fall in that category, even if it doesn't do it consistently.
Daniel Wright
elana seraph winrate is a fucking meme
Henry Williams
Should I buy Latham?
Hudson Brooks
>Any class that can end the game on turn 5 is aggro. says who? you? garuda wins on turn 5 once every 100 games and only if the opponent completely ignores your units and tries to race you
Gavin Brown
Well you're mine now and that means that everything yours is mine too
Easton Cook
Elana/Seraph having good winrates still doesn't point to Sacred Plea being the problem though.
Samuel Hill
>Thousands of games at master >Meme ???
Angel Morales
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Landon Young
No control deck has good card draw that's as consistent as sacred plea enables.
It's really easy to win the game on turn 5 if you curve properly, user.
Jordan Wright
It has this turn 3, mongoloid. The only class able to compete is Forest with ALSO broken as fuck Ancient Elf.
Colton Bailey
I feel bad for these arena players sometimes
Lincoln Perez
>mid sword crying about garuda lmfao
Jack Allen
It could take fucking 5 turns and it would still be the best draw, have you looked at what other classes have to work with?
Andrew Mitchell
What is Dire Bond, Avant Blader, Glimmering Wings, and literally every thing Rune plays?
Leo Price
You know your deck beats Garuda right?
Jonathan Cox
How is sword at all related to the retarded value Haven cards have all game long?
James Harris
Why? these guys are the same shitters that complain saying how t2 is complete RNG.
Angel Thompson
Did you keep the mentor's teachings or did it they just stick in your hand unwillingly
Nolan Gomez
>floral >alwida >otohime >crying about other value cards fucking lol my dude
Gabriel Flores
Midrange Sword doesn't have as good of matchup against Freedom Bird as you think.
Ryder Nelson
the other good classes have inbuilt draws or don't need draws because they either bounce or summon multiple units like forest it's not haven's fault that shadow is a shit deck
Sebastian Jackson
Technically there's way more RNG in t2 than standard but yeah, this sort of play is unforgivable really
Nolan Jenkins
And it's not in any way relevant to this conversation. Claiming Haven has no early game when the ONLY thing that is able to compete with it is Forest which is also broken as fuck is just wrong.
Noah Anderson
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Brandon Edwards
>It could take fucking 5 turns and it would still be the best draw, ???
Have a pity (You).
Dylan Moore
>5/6 evolved card with storm, amulet for 2 mana, garuda can instantly spawn it and deals 3 damage to face. 8 damage in total in one turn
If you want to win, play haven.
Really it's the strongest aggro class in the game with the best removal option.
Nathan Baker
I know that you have some mental problems, but you could at least try paying a little attention.
Ian Garcia
>properly more like perfectly and only if the opponent is afk and ignores all your units
Owen Taylor
Thanks Havenbud, I'll be sure to return the favour once your crutch gets kicked out from under you
Jose Baker
kys swordshitter your decks are just as broken as haven
Leo Perez
The same could be said of all aggro decks though.
>mfw I just autoconcede if I don't get a good hand when playing agro bats
William Gomez
Dragon draft where your options are
roost/deathmist vs dracomancer's rites (in a draft you got no good discard cards/Hydra or Forte/Cavalier vs Fafnir/Lucier
Take 2 isn't pure rng and you should be disappointed if you don't even 3-2 but let's be real here.
Lincoln Bell
Keep us all posted, reddit cancer.
Xavier Hernandez
I pity blood more than any other class in this game.
Hopefully they get to t1 next expansion!
Aaron James
there wasn't even an elana seraph deck to pick from on shadowlog before last week people just reported any seraph they saw (people usually lose when it drops) as seraph and the rest as elana, that's why elana has very negative winrate and seraph way positive
Luke Murphy
You do realize Dire Bond and Glimmering Wings would be gutted long before sacred plea gets nerfed, right?
Carter Cruz
alright but only if you keep B2 well entertained with your autopilot sword deck that's the one I'm switching to when they nerf storm by the way because it requires just as little thought :^)
Austin Smith
WHY DRAGON IS SO BAD? REEEEEEEEE
Jacob Smith
If you just want fast games to climb there's better classes than Haven to do it with backed up by the logs.
It doesn't matter how good the card draws are compared to each other, it's about what the classes have to work with in their kit. No one is saying Blood is busted because of dire bond right now.
Carter Torres
>turns out retarded animal is haven cancer Like clockwork
Ethan Sanders
What is the mirror matchup you hate most?
For me, it has to be Spellboost. I feel like killing myself regardless if I win or lose.
Mason Wilson
Based Olivia, Balanced Angel of Perfect Tempo and Free Wins
Ryan Martin
>No one is saying Blood is busted because of dire bond right now. No one is saying Haven is busted because of sacred plea either. Except you apparently.
Post rank.
Jason Moore
>Conjuring force AND Purgatory
What a fucking madman.
Jaxon Hall
Haven's not busted, the reason it's good isn't thanks to aria though.
Logan Bailey
Dude have you actually played against Storm Haven?
Aria being two mana and low countdown is fucking key to that deck
Kayden Cooper
He also played 2 Gauntleted Healers and god knows how many Snowmen I had to blast away with Barrage. Kinda interesting though, was a refreshing change from durrrr DShift
Carter Wilson
it's 3 turns countdown are you gonna say hallowed is busted now?
Blake Moore
If they didn't have aria, the deck wouldn't be good period. They need it.
Nolan Jenkins
>2pp, 2 self damage draw 2 cards They are equal
Jaxson Moore
>specific card interaction can be busted jesus who would've thought
Lincoln Rodriguez
>the reason it's good isn't thanks to aria though. What did he mean by this?
Brandon Parker
Blader+Maid lets CSword keep the gass going forever.