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>runecaster >funding >can kill R7 mobs >long ass cd and boring setup
great
Jaxson Gray
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James Jackson
>Dongkey Kong
Jack Martin
>Wolfknights shirt
ToS is dead guys!
Joshua Edwards
Best way to spend them?
Asher Wilson
290
Ryan Ramirez
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Asher Powell
rush 290
or risk 240 for virtovs
Gavin Cruz
dear diary, today is a sad day for me, we lost cats senpai, he got online and start saying how he like working instead of playing vidya games, and as well as other normie stuff like which hand soap makes his hands smell good and also which normie place is good to go for vacations. I know the neet senpai that I once known is still in there under all those normie brainwashing, but I can't reach that true neet self no matter how hard I tried. What should I do? What can I do to be his true neet self again when his normie side is so strong now.
PS. I am trying my hardest not to scream REEEEE, but I am less able to hold myself back with every passing moment.
Jonathan Hall
what is his current power lvl?
Gavin Bennett
he said he's been playing pokemon and other mobile games
Wyatt Gomez
ya, he's turned to the normie side now
Nolan Thompson
that requires stalking
make him get fired
make his friends hate and leave him
that's the way to neet someone
Tyler Jenkins
dumb frog poster
Carson Campbell
>everyone is quitting or selling their accounts Is this the end?
yes whales buy accounts because it's cheaper than buying from mmotank
Noah Scott
People buying accounts is contrary to saying the game is losing people
Nolan Williams
>tosbase no
Jordan Sanchez
no, whales buy the account and strip the items off them. i used to sell accounts on maplestory and people did this all the time
Oliver Bennett
And use the items for what? They're quitting and the game is dying, so what would they do with them?
Eli Flores
Should I play this game? Would you recommend it to a friend? If you could change one thing of it, what would it be?
Carter Howard
whales are the only ones who stay on these dead games due to sunken cost fallacy, they buy the accounts of players that quit and use the accounts to fund their main whale account.
Surprisingly they do. Rynn put up her account up for like 500 bucks and 2 days later that RMTlord Mergen suddenly had all the same gear, posted videos of themselves with the same attributes levels and had the same alts in lodge as her.
Colton Wright
So dead just means all the /tosg/ shitters and pvp fags leave?
Austin Martin
no no remove kim
Noah Sanchez
just play the game
Gavin Evans
Yeah >Friends The programming team
Julian Clark
I half ass quit recently, so
Play until it you realize what's wrong with it No I would want the whole class system moved into a game I can enjoy
Ryder Morales
Dead just means you lost literally 90% of your player base in 6 months.
Thomas Long
I don't remember it dropping from 10k to 1k in 6 months.
Jace Edwards
It's not dead because there isn't enough players. Its dead because it has no future. Nothing will ever get fixed. It's broken at its core.
Alexander Howard
For every new player, this game loses 200-400 players per month. Watch it lose another 300 by the end of this month. It'll reach a point where only bots play this game.
Eli Taylor
So it's gone from 11k average to 6200 average. That's not 90%. Or are you including that point at the end of beta where imc finally opened up the servers for F2P and immediately closed them again because they had more people than they were willing to upgrade their servers for until it fell to a sustainable number?
Owen James
Then you might need a refresher
Cooper Perez
I'm not that user but 53k is close to 90% yes.
Luke Thompson
Any rod murms here able to tell me whether the murm attribute for rod skills gives it a multiplier the same as say the skills damage enhance attribute?
Say like targe smash is attributed to 50 and you have the 200% attri from murm. Does the damage go from 50% then multiplied by the 200% or does it just become 250%?
Noah Butler
Intentionally making players quit isn't the same as losing them
play the game since beta
Christopher Barnes
oh, so they intended the kill the game. thanks
Mason Rivera
That literally has nothing to do with the presented claim
Noah Perez
this is my first time seeing this game
you guys are saying , the game is dead, people selling accounts , they're intentionally making people quit
can someone explain exactly what they did ?
Robert Cooper
>that one faggot who tries to bully you in thread but never has the balls to do it in-game what's her name?
Carson Adams
I'm the bully you're after!
Matthew Edwards
balance is bad content updates are slow and bad they try to make it p2w
in earlyAccess there was more people playing then they expected/could-handle so they closed game for new players for a few weeks. not a lot came back, many left see
Tyler Hughes
>it's dying Every MMO that isn't WoW dies. Each and every one of them.
The only reason RO private servers do better is because they have 100x/100x/100x rates, dozens of bots, casual and best of all no need to pay anything. Any one of you could load up OpenKore on one of those servers and get max level in a few weeks and then realize how bad RO is in Renewal.
Oh and I think the fact that RO's engine actually runs smooth plays a big part. The most painful thing about TOS for me is the performance and I don't think they'll ever even fix it because the developers seem to be amateurs at coding.
Was and is TOS a flop though? No. They most likely made more money than they thought they would. They weren't even prepared for the amount of players they got or how many were excited for it.
The main issue however is that IMC is a bunch of Gacha inspired gook developers. They don't know any other way to make a game but to add in lottery shit and make the entire game based on rolling cubes. Tons of sinks everywhere and almost no fun at all. They have no fucking idea what they are doing.
The only department at IMC that is competent is the music and art department. Koreans are good with artistic shit but game design is fucking terrible over there.
Name ONE good Korean game that isn't a fucking MMO with pay to win cashshop.
Protip: You fucking cannot
James Wright
>balance is bad
do the mages just fuck every other class? i was planning on making a cleric
Jace Rogers
This game will possibly get a boost if they ever figure out how to fix the client and market it. Everything that is supposed to make the game fun runs like shit and ruins the experience for everyone. The balance is atrocious, gachas make the game p2w (I got 32m silver with $100), no class resets, lack of content.. they simply don't give a fuck at this point.
Isaiah Russell
Why do I like these stupid kMMOs though?
Can I be cured?
Jeremiah Walker
>can someone explain exactly what they did ? Took forever to release a beta for a game that was barely out of alpha state Changed everything between each beta, by which I mean removed more and more content that was there before without replacing it Turned the last beta into an 3month early access because players were bugging them to release Turned that into a 1 month EA because they listened to the players After that month the servers were flooded with players until no one could log on They closed the servers again until the end of the original 3 month period so that people would leave without new ones joining and when hype died down, they opened the servers again. That's what that hump in the charts is. They still haven't upgraded the servers nor are they even advertising the game.
They also didn't have anything ready to get money from the flood of people to at least make something off them. Additionally they made regional servers because people begged for them, but surprise, those servers are dead as fuck. In the case of the BR one, the BRs just DDoSed it all the time until they had to move it back to America because the host would keep shutting off access due to the DDoSing. They also added so many quests even though it was supposed to be a grinding based game, added neutrality when they planned to have GvG open field warfare(and even then they didn't plan pvp until people wanted it), and keep nerfing certain grind spots because people keep complaining.
Basically they listened to the playerbase too much and you shouldn't make the mistake of listening to them either.
Josiah Stewart
no
currently wizards are shit (unless CC) clerics are OP as fuck archers are dead some swords also OP and IMC buffs them even more
it was not as bad in Rank7 and will probably be worse in Rank9
Ethan Bailey
Shin Megami Tensei IMG wasn't p2w, all of their shit was cosmetic. It was successful for a few years till it got dated. Grand Fantasia was the same.
Camden Collins
>so they intended the kill the game Every thing they've done honestly seems like it, yes.
Sebastian Ramirez
What was it that ultimately killed TOS for you?
For me it was: Transcending.
Coming from another dead Korean MMO, ArcheAge, the ability to make any weapon insanely powerful instead of making new weapons is the Korean sneaky way of adding in pay to win. Transcending is nothing but a Whale's Enchant system. Exact same shit happened in ArcheAge and it killed the game. Basic crafted gear that then was enhanced turned a player into a god compared to others. I think I'm done entirely with Korean MMO's. Like I won't even bother after TOS. I'm too old to be tricked by this obvious pay to win shit again.
Easton Nelson
Wizards fuck retards with 5-person MF+Raises Archers fuck everyone from outside their screen if they don't have damage immunity Swordsmen fuck anyone that doesn't have damage immunity while running at the speed of sports cars, and every patch they do it 50% better Clerics fuck everyone. Even if you kill a cleric, his cleric buddy will revive him and then fuck you in revenge. They will also reflect any attempts to fuck them right back at you. They're mostly immune to fuckery. If you are immune to fuckery too, they will dispel your immunity and then fuck you. If you somehow manage to fuck one of their buddies, they will unfuck them. They're also immune to fuck control, but just in case you're also immune to it they will dispel you and let their buddies fuck control you, before fucking you themselves. I believe one cleric class in particular is so adept at fucking it is even able to fuck the channel they're in.
Joseph Bailey
and half of /tosg/ was hyped and happy and all when first info about transcending was posted from KR translations.
haha, i knew this was going to fuck the game up big time
Jordan Gomez
>Name ONE good Korean game that isn't a fucking MMO Honestly, the only non MMO Korean games I've heard of are War of Genesis and Magna Carta.
Jeremiah Johnson
>Clerics fuck everyone. Even if you kill a cleric, his cleric buddy will revive him and then fuck you in revenge. They will also reflect any attempts to fuck them right back at you. They're mostly immune to fuckery. If you are immune to fuckery too, they will dispel your immunity and then fuck you. If you somehow manage to fuck one of their buddies, they will unfuck them. They're also immune to fuck control, but just in case you're also immune to it they will dispel you and let their buddies fuck control you, before fucking you themselves. I believe one cleric class in particular is so adept at fucking it is even able to fuck the channel they're in.
Lucas Morris
Being able to trade blessed shards, "endgame gear", etc
Alexander Thomas
Shin Megami Tensei IMG wasn't Korean. It was made by Cave.
Lincoln Edwards
>Archers fuck everyone >1 >1 >1
Ryder Roberts
He's referring to hunters AKA, 100% uptime holding you down by the dick while they fill every fucking orifice and otherwise with arrows whether you're wearing protection or not
