Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Is Kael super unsatisfying or is it just me? It just seems like you have a bunch of options but none of them are ever any good

>new account
>play something stupid in QM
>win a few dozen games
>level Vs. AI
>ranked placements
>Platinum I through Diamond III

Yeah, I just had one die five times in the first four minutes of the game.

>wave of minions
>she places blizzard beside it

Slightly tilting experience.

>he doesnt zone minions waves

Q.

Like what

That's it?

Just spam Q? I guess it makes sense since W has absolutely zero range but

+ talents.

>he hasn't seen the aftermath of legacy of the void

>doing more dps than sonya
>down 2 levels
>still win because they throw.

I feel bad for that Illidan.

>Illidan with those stats playing into Muradorf and snu snu

Damn.

>feeling bad for some shitass assassin player
>ever

Look at those stats. It looks like he carried hard.

>NA memes

>Tempo storm

I DID IT! 15 FUCKING MATCHES!

I AM FINALLY FREE FROM THIS BORING PIECE OF SHIT GAME!

PEACE FUCKERS!

>Illidan pops evasion right before I hit him with Judgement
>does literally zero (0) damage
What a NICE fucking game.

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Watched replay. It was his 'spell shield'-esque level 13 talent. 219 dmg judgement makes it do ~50. What a NICE game.

Seriously though, Judgement does need a buff.

You shouldn't be taking Judgement.

go fuck you'reself t b q h

We were pumping and I play Tyreal for annoying enemies and for bringing FUN.

Sanc is 'pop and be a shiny fag' and if you're super-serious.

>game against Illidan
>pick xul
>kill him 10 times
>this happens three games in a row with three different illidans
>fourth game I get one on my team
>he picks illidan into muradin, brightwing and arthas
>that illidan was 14 of our 19 team deaths

Sanc would have fucked Illidan because he can't hit anyone and can't life steal.

As I said, they were getting pumped. Also,
>illidan players
>good
:^)

PREPARED!

>getting cucked by an old DRUID of all people
lel

female goblin hero when

>changed from purple gnome to FURSHIT
No.

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Good enough to out play you.

>Gets wrecked all game
>Loses said game
>Picks an unorthodox talent that instead of instantly dying he dies .5s later
>y-y-y-you got o-out played!!1!1! ;_:
Illidan players are the Riki-pickers of HotS. Useless and delusional.

I guess when there is nothing else to compliment

Well I'll be damned

Also I have a question, for the purposes for his 'hit two more heroes' talents, does Cho'Gall count

Since day 1 of his rework I've been saying this and only a few people realise.

Even on VOIP one day had some autistic beta bitch question my Flamestrike build. nek minnit, I'm top siege, hero and XP while we're destroying the enemy all game.

Not a single word was said again by that faggot.

Flamethrower (lv20) is also good.

It shouldn't. But this game is buggy. Try it in try mode.

ALL

That has been his standard build since forever.

The only real issue I had was mana, should I take that mana talent when you activate trait or is nether wind just better

No. Objectively wrong, especially when you look at pre-rework.

Don't be a spamming retard. This isn't LeL.

I don't think I've seen a KT take anything other than FS build in months

Turns out Tychus is actually from the Diablo universe.

>being this poor

hero used in hero league counts for any quests regardless of class or universe.

also regen globes, don't underestimate how much sustain a regen globe can give you in lane.

sure you can wreck shit as KT on the optimal team comb that protects your positioning and takes your vulnerability into account. The second you play with a team that doesn't do that, you're effectively out of the match as KT.

That's why li-ming is the better alternative at the moment, she can still do stuff, even when her team doesn't mind her positioning (if she is good ofc).

Jaina is also better, her trait and higher burst potential makes it easier for her to disengage with risky positioning.

The only disengage potential Kael has is his E, which is a skillshot that can be dodged if the one chasing you is good.

One hero league game counts towards all quest. Pretty sure even the win quest.

they changed it so you get credit for role or universe quests in any draft mode no matter what character you pick

LiMing is only "better" since she's easier to play (le blink faic) and absolutely wrecks if she can snow-ball. You seem ignorant about KT by that post but whatever, I don't care about who does/n't play KT.

>Jaina is also better

Another stupid 'point'. All three heroes are very different.

Anyone wanna play some cho'gall on EU
Need to bring that fucker and his brother to 5
I don't have him

that they are very different, is the point i'm trying to get across. Kael is the more optimal choice with teams that have communication and cooperate. A rarity in HL these days.

Jaina and Li-ming are the safer choices, but ultimately deal slightly less damage in favourable outcomes.

I'm level 11 Kael, and if you can't feel it when your team neglects the enemy team diving you, then you're pretty lucky with matchmaking if you ask me.

This is a better post, which I can agree to more.

Good job, user.

Honestly, that's fucking retarded. The role quests are there to give incentive to try out new heroes overall. This jsut makes people with less experience and more incentive to noob it in HL, to play HL.

you are fucking retarded, they made this change specifically to avoid people picking suboptimal heroes for the match they are in just because they need to complete a dumb quest

Li-Ming and Jaina are picked way more in tournaments than Kael. Kael is really only seen on shrines and even then Gul'dan is probably seen more. Especially since the nerf to the stun meta.

Jaina is picked for combo potential, Li-Ming for snowball and Gul'dan for crazy wave clear and sustain damage. KT is kind of in a weird place where he's okay at all that, but not really amazing at it until late levels.

other people picking sub-optimal heroes in HL isen't my fault. That's the people picking sub-optimal heroes to complete a quest being retarded.

I wouldn't mind them having this way, if the requirements for hero league we're tightened to atleast having 5 heroes above level 10, atleast owning 5 warriors above level 7, atleast owning 5 supports above level 7.

If you don't meet these simple requirements. You don't even belong in bronze.

so basically, you are complaining about a thing because you don't like another thing

They aren't picked for their damage, but because they are safer options generally.

Knowing that both teams are going to be highly cooperative and WILL dive you at any mistake you make, i would also prefer Li-Ming and Jaina.

I'll let you in on a secret
/join chogall

Those "things" happen to be related? What are you? Incapable of basic relational thought? I bet you're one of them bronze shitters going "muh mmr-hell".

Yes, i'm complaining over the base requirements for HL, and them changing quests to give noobs a better incentive to play hero is NOT, helping it at all.

they are not related and you are a fag

They are picked for a variety of reasons. Jaina and Gul'dan have the same problems KT has especially Gul'dan.

Li-Ming does more burst than KT and if you don't think that you are an idiot. That and resets has the chance to snowball any team fight you are in. That's why Li-Ming is taken more than any other mages, not just blink.

Jaina because of Ring of Frost and combo potential with tons of other ults. It's more than just they are easier to position with because in truth you can play bitch mode with KT and be fine.

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>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

If you have the same positioning problems with jaina as with kael, then you just suck as jaina, end of story.

Her trait will make her impossible to approach, since she slows anyone whom are touched by her abilities.

Every 4 seconds, she can slow any advancing hostile for 30%. If they get closer or more than 1 is advancing, you just pop cone or blizz. They are slowed, and you just walk out of there.

80% of jaina deaths i see in HL, is because people tunnel vision and forget to walk the fuck out after they pop their shit. They just stand there and land basic attacks, which promply will get you killed from any fast reacting tank to capitalize on your retardedness.

nobody cares you autist fuck

is someone triggered by autism?

I can always count on you to respond, ponyfucker.

Classic Xul when?

I'm not giving up on this.

>cho'gall free week
But why

because you thought samuro free week is bad

I'm sorry user, I think Blizzard forgot all about D2

welcome back

>flashbacks of nova free week back at game launch
This is why i don't play QM.

how do I git gud at mr wolfman?

go cocktail and never go wolf

don't play heroes currently gimped by the meta. Greymane is in the worst spot he has ever been since his launch, just wait it out, and he will be buffed sometime in the next 1-2 months.

what is the current meta?

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TIME TO REV UP THOSE COCOONS

Misfits and Dive Meta.

Overall, Tanks have never been in a worse spot than they are now. The only 3 viable tanks are Muradin, ETC and Johanna (in that order).

This makes it easy for heroes like Butcher and Kerrigan to dive in and wreck the backline for good, before the tank can react. Even if the tank does react, bursting down the tank is also suddenly a viable option.

The majority of maps just added (Braxis Holdout particularly), favour heroes that were neglected before, like Gazlowe, Hammer, Rexxar and TLV (on 3 lane maps only).

You still want to grab Samuro or Varian any chance you get.

A lot of people are gonna argue on the only 3 tanks being viable, but it's the sad truth, they just have a hard time accepting it.

Also remember (i'm assuming you're new); Warrior =/= Tank. Rexxar operates a lot more like a specialist with disruption, and Sonya operates exactly like an assassin with a gap closer and stun.

You're confusing solo tank with solo frontliner
You can pair a sub-par tank with a sturdy melee assassin, like thrall, and you'd still have a viable comp

My question is will there be a fem cancer in d3 dlc?

Not if you want to win.

Say you pair Thrall with Sonya. A lone muradin or ETC still have more zoning capability and more disruption.

There are some combs that can work with Tyrael, that's true, but it requires comms and higher than average cooperation, not fit for HL.

The lack off overall disruption in the current meta is exactly why diving is so easy for butcher, kerrigan, varian and most other divers.

Yesterday I lost a match because someone thought this exact same thing. We had thrall, he was last pick and instead of going joh he picked fucking arthas. That might not be the only reason we lost but it certainly played a role since they were melting in a couple of seconds in teamfights

>some faggot on the team decides to "shotcall", meaning he angrily tries to dictate everyone's build, constantly talks shit and bitches about literally everything, and pings something three times per match
>not one siege camp call
>not one boss call
>not one focus target called
>he's the only one on our team that doesn't make it to the commendation screen
>gets salty about it
>we saved his retarded ass from demotion
feels bad to win, man

>muradin over ETC
>muradin over johanna
you fell for the meme, user
muradin is okay but ETC outshines him by far, and johanna is a lot more useful vs AA based comps

if you could have picked ETC or johanna while Valla is in the game on any team but picked Muradin, you fucked up bad.

Try being gold, winning feels bad and undeserved team-wise every time you're lucky enough to actually win, since everyone is a fucking potato.

I'm not saying i'm fit for diamond league, since i've played with diamond/master players and clearly can feel a difference in skill level, but DAMN, people are mentally impaired in Gold. It's been ages since i've been outplayed in lane or felt that i was grouped with anyone better or more knowledgeable than me about the game.

Climbing takes an eternity, and is far from what i would describe as fun.

I have a feeling you're just not very good overall with muradin.

Pick reverbration in level 4 and you will fair better vs AA melee combs than both Johanna and ETC.

>not understanding the meta
allow me to explain
Valla is a fucking beast.
ETC buffs her attackspeed. You don't want a buffed enemy Valla, and you want to buff your shitter teammate that picked Valla because she's FOTM.
Johanna is a huge threat to Valla, blind is amazing and Blessed Shield will get her killed.

If Valla sees a Muradin on the enemy team, depending on how the rest of the comps looks, she could just go for the W build and not give a shit about your attack speed debuff. Not to mention that if buffed by ETC, it's only a 25% reduction at most.

Which heroic should I be getting for butcher?
I like the damage from just charging at enemies right as furnace blast explodes, but his other one seems just a useful

Some weird games you've been playing, because i have yet to see something like that in action and not being able to deal with it as muradin.

I would not pick muradin vs ETC though, but i wouldn't sweat it vs johanna. Considering ETC gets banned most of the time, then i don't see an issue for muradin here at all.

Johanna > ETC
ETC > Muradin
Muradin > Johanna

You pick furnace blast when you're 100% sure that you will NOT survive the charge, and get stunned into oblivion. Particularly if the team you're playing with is showing signs or behaviour of not wanting to commit to your charges and leave you in the dust everytime you do so.

It can be good if you really need to take out the healer, or if you're vs a team that fall short on methods for disengaging.