>In some circumstances, you can run faster using less horsepower
Is this ever true or is it just bullshit?
Keep in mind this was in the context of adjusting an existing car's engine to reduce its horsepower by 100, so using a different car with less horsepower or being lighter on the throttle don't count.
yeah if youre too retarded for throttle management or the tires simply cant hold it
You can, but only if you drive on a track wich requires a extremely precise throttle controll and not that much power.
Initial D is not real life
His excuse for going from 340 to 260 HP was so he could be confident being super aggressive on the throttle, rather than trying to prevent wheelspin the whole time.
In theory; perhaps
Tune the car so it has less power but also less turbolag might mean that you reach the engine optimal output quicker when punching the throttle, enabling you to go faster on a track with more corners and shorter straights
This is all theoretical ofcourse
Very much true in MotoGP, with the spec electronics coming in and nerfing a lot of the factory specific electronics certain bikes have had a lot of trouble accelerating as the power delivery was too brutal and wasn't hooking up.
Honda built an engine that was simply too aggressive in 2015 and didn't really do enough to fix it in 2016 so they were losing out on drive to bikes with far less horsepower like the yamaha and suzuki bikes.
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BUT, it's worth noting it's not just about horsepower, it's about engine character, this can come from anything from fueling, cams, ignition timing etc. all the way down to the weight of the crankshaft and flywheel (it's widely reported the hondas crankshaft was simply too light in 2015 for example making the engine so responsive it became a negative), they actually reversed the rotation of the engine in 2016 and made it spin backwards as well.
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yes just meet me at the downhill and you will see
If he went to a smaller turbo for the race, this would make sense
Why did they give him brown hair in stage 2 tho
It was fucking grey in fifth stage.
everyone's character designs got fucked up in 2nd stage
He was racing a car with far less power so him being down on it isn't a huge deal, but he needed to optimize his weight distribution and cut as much weight as reasonably possible from his FC. Also, in twisty sections a somewhat lower-power car can be faster for the given tire, it can accelerate without spinning as much.
3rd stage was brown hair.
Not quite.
Is this why those "2000hp" Gallardos an Huracans I see on 1320video look like they're slowing than cars claiming a third of that?
True to an extent.
The lower power allows you to use higher rpms, while keeping the same gearing in your tranny.
You don't want to take a 25mph corner at 7500 RPM with 400hp, 7500 RPM with 200hp is much more reasonable because you now have better control of your wheelspin.
Protip: try to utilize 2000hp in a corner
They're all runway/highway pull cars. 1320video doesn't do corners.
Why didnt they just keep the art style of 1st stage but make it cleaner
Keisuke aging 10 years suddenly was the craziest too
Detuning the engine to lower the horsepower can flatten down a peaky powerband and allow for more consistent throttle response and acceleration. On a downhill, having less power is mitigated somewhat by the car's inertia; having better control is more important for going fast around winding slopes.
these are good valid points
Also, Ryosuke is handsamu
How the fuck did the 86 beat the r34 and lan evo though, for real
>lan evo
noobie
>r34
he fought r32 and he was also pretty noobie
You're right, later I think it's keisuke who goes against r34.
But nakazato was supposed to be a great racer, who was testing bias improved skills, and kyoichi was supposed to be so good that only ryosuke was a good match-up.
Dagumi in BOTH fights was the noob, he was still stretching his real racing legs. I like the series but he needed to take more losses. I know that's not the point, but still.
I'd be happy with a series following his pro career, I really want that
>noob
>in his own home base
>against back on the rocks who hasnt had the time to learn the map
Also, Kyoichi's fight against him was that he lost, and the car being tuned was a good handicap removal
Dagumi had a lot of asspull wins
And his losses were chalked up as "lol it di'in count", and thus the series ended with him being """""""""""""undefeated"""""""""""""
But then he went on to beat the MR2, twice, the w20 AND w30. Kai literally should not have lost, either time.
Even in the game, driving the 86 you'd have to be extremely lucky on top of extremely skilled, with extensive knowledge of the level to pull that off
I realize this is all moot, I've just never met anyone IRL to talk about my D with
SW20 was N/A, and ZZW-30 was one of his closest races.
He went toe to toe and blew out his engine against an autism kid in another 86, based on that performance Dagumi should have lost against the w30.
I know the series is supposed to be about Tsuchiya, but realism applies to every vehicle but the 86.
Are there other racing shows?
The RX7 is faster than either of those. Dagumi killed it in his first race.
The dagumi zone
>I like the series but he needed to take more losses.
Usui pass was a point where he could lose shamelessly while still feeling like he won but he wins anyways it's ridiculous.
his "loss" against bandana evo guy was so lame too, feels more like a spoiled brat loss than an actual loss.
I'm really disappointed in the ending.
Like, the series really shouldn't have ended with the final Project D victory. There should have been one, or maybe even two, races after that.
My first idea for what should have come after that is a rematch between Takumi and Keisuke. Keisuke was the first person Takumi ever raced, and they've both improved a lot since then. Before the end, I though the point of Project D was to pit those two driving styles against one another to see which was better, so I figured it would have made a great race if they competed on equal ground.
The other one would be Takumi racing against his father, both in 86s. Actually, this is what I thought Final Stage was when I read the description, of course it was just that kid from Fifth Stage that they didn't finish business with. I would have been perfectly happy with Takumi losing this race.
I also don't like how it didn't feel like it concluded anything. Like, the end of Third Stage had a more satisfying conclusion than the actual ending. I don't have any idea what Takumi is doing with his life, other than he wants to fix up the 86.
Also, is it just me or was there never any pay-off for Takumi driving that 4WD Impreza?
At the end did it not show takumi in a pro circuit and dating golf girl?
The Impreza was Chekhov's gun tho, I agree. I guess the point is that bunta needed a new ride for deliveries, and they were planning on killing the 86, but still
It showed Keisuke in a pro circuit.
And I don't care about golf girl, she means nothing to the series.
It was said that Hojo in his NSX drives like dagumi, literally.
honestly the plot is really awful by 4th and 5th stage; the only thing making it bearable was eurobeat. It felt silly seeing Takumi struggle so much after 3rd stage but have him end up winning anyways. Might as well have him keep up the stage 1 attitude (bored or mad as fuck badass) instead of the boring underdog one, it's going to .tire. out either way anyways
then someone thought it was a good idea to make a reboot of the 1st stage as a movie WITHOUT eurobeat.
I could see some fucking strange gearing situations cropping up as well. Particularly if your power band is fucking weird, it might be better for certain corners to be taken in a lower gear at higher RPM or something, where you'd just peel out uncontrollably with all the power normally available.
In a straight line on a flat track with all other variables being equal? No. That's bullshit.
Yes, if traction is an issue.
Yes, if you're illegal street racing and racing slicks and perfect smooth pavement are not options, therefore inherently limiting your available traction by leaps and bounds beyond normal benchracing means.
Yes if you're illegal street racing in the middle of the night and have to drift in order to avoid a wreck, whether it be due to various unknown variable or just purely in the form as a protective countermeasure from understeering off the road- simply because of the inherent danger of street racing and driving on an unfamiliar course with low visibility and the risk of oncoming traffic and small animals.
Yes, if you take all of these things combined with the fact that you have a superpowered shitbox that will roast its wimpy street tires thanks to a turbo that acts like an on/off switch which you will never be able utilize it's full potential due to the nature of all the things stated above.
Simple as that. In benchracer Forza motorsport world, yes drifting is slower, yes horsepower is faster, yes the AE86 is a shitbox.
But in reality, a seasoned and experienced driver in an underpowered shitbox could definitely, almost certainly beat some snooty rich kid in an overpowered rocket racing on a track in the middle of the night with unknown variables on an unfamiliar road.
How the fuck can you be comfortable with elastic bands that large on your underwear?
>an actually informative post on Veeky Forums
pls dont go
I'm on Veeky Forums all the time I just don't see any threads outside of /dbt/ unless I've just turned my computer on.
/dbt/ is pretty shit though. I haven't posted in them for a while because it's all shitposting and arguing over stupid shit.
if /dbt/ is shit then the rest of Veeky Forums is nuclear waste.
>implying it's not
Out of all the boards I go on Veeky Forums is about the worst for the sheer amount of concentrated shitposting. I love this board, but there's far more pointless arguing than real discussion.
>beyond stage every character looks exactly the same
what the fuck where they thinking
second stage i mean
Considering Shigeno's manga prior to Initial D was based on motorcycling, I can see how he could have made the connection.
While many people are right on "too much power" and the weight distro of the parts, one of the big things that people forget its that saying "this car does 350 hp" or "250 hp" its as its peak hp.
If you have a car that has 100 hp until the last 1k RPM range then it reaches 300 most of the power will be going to shit.
If you instead use a different set up that increases overall torque but reduces high RPM torque you will feel a lot more.
In fact, in real life touge, it would be better to have a supercharger than a turbo.
>tfw vfr
>tfw close ignition timing but shitty power/weight so it means almost nothing 99.9% of the time and just makes the exhaust sound cooler at idle
it's actually not that unrealistic, power really doesn't matter that much on a downhill, low and proper weight distribution is much more important
>In some circumstances
Wich could be corners, you could win with far less power.
tfw youre a piece of actual shit furfag whose opinion nevermind life doesnt matter even on a philipino kitchen sponge porn forum
he's not the person in the picture and I'm sure he's not posting it in support.
it could result in a slightly broader power band
that would load the suspension and tires at a slower rate
Akiyama was like that tho, he had a supercharged 86 levin and even he says it's a lot better to drive than his peaky turbo
If the chassis, suspension, tyres etc are optimized for less power, yes.
Think of driving a slow small car fast, compared to driving a lambo slow.
This sounds like something a woman would say.
>car is top powerfull, everytime I press the throtle the tires make this weird noise
>what do you mean by "not pressing it all he way down"
>acceleration pedal is an on/off thing
I didn´t say it is a on/of thing.
But if you have to use more throttle for the same power you will gain some precission.
If you have 2000hp and only need about 100, you will have to be carefully.
If you have 150hp and need about 100 that is pretty easy.