181 hp

>what is unimog
>what is literally every heavy duty machine like excavators n shit

Yes, go on.

>pick two

This won't hold a candle to the raptor

Diesel a shit

Can this thing even haul a lawn mower. Kek.

That's Dodge territory. Ford can have all the Raptors they want. But when you say performance truck, you say Dodge.

One word.
Hellram.

Now we know you are trying to bait hard or are legit retarded.

lel, the Raptor is a wimpy boy toy for dirt roads

meanwhile Unimogs with what you would declare too little power for a lawn mower do this all day long

youtube.com/watch?v=KjsStMS02J8

>i know chebby is trash but i am too ashamed to say it
>let me defend the cuckorado by using a mercedes & see if that works

jesus christ, chevy fangays will defend quite literally anything made by that trash brand

I'll take any diesel over a petrol in a truck, not just Chebby.

>non existent truck

fair enough

anyone with enough brain cells to avoid chevy is a-ok in my book

It's a fucking truck

I swear you benchracers are the fucking worst. I could have the best lawnmower in the world and some faggot Chrysler garbage fanboy on here would say a hellcat is a better lawnmower because muh 0-60

Are you a retard?

is it just me or is that rear wheel arch ridiculously small?

The raptor is for dirt road "off-roading"

Throw some rocks, steep embankments, and anything you can't 'throttle out' of into the equation, and it's toast my man.

Meanwhile diesel unimogs, diesel military transports, diesel BJ 40s, etc. blow the raptor out of the water

>truck
>0-60 time

How's that bus pass, get it laminated?

It's got the same suspension clearance as in the front, it's just shorter because the front arch needs to clear the steering lock and the rear one doesn't. Won't leave a massive amount of space for upgrades though. Maybe you can pull off that plastic trim on the edge.

>damage control
The f150 has a 5.6 second 0-60 time. There's no excuse to be slow.

One does. Leaf dealership had a motor sent over and swapped it. Should be a production trim. We're overdue for another SRT Ram.

Except the raptor is faster in every aspect. It also handles better.

>inb4 power doesn't matter in a truck
Enjoy climbing a hill at 27 mph

It's a truck. If you're buying it to go fast you're a retard

Good for you, but no one buys a truck for its 0-60 time, just like no one buys a supercar for the luggage capacity and no one buys a roadster for the winter preparedness.

>what is tork

Enjoy not climbing a hill at all in your glorified mall crawler.

Not a production truck. Try again, autist.

False equivalency.
>what is reading comprehension
It's an off road truck. So, yes. People expect performance, dumbass

Remind us again how much a raptor with the same equipment costs compared to this?

Not an argument

>lol this $300k ferrari is faster than this $15k fiesta, ford is so shit price has nothing to do in vehicles performance!

>using "i'm poor" as an argument

>off road
>fast

Do you live at bonneville salt flats? The Gobi desert? The central Khazakhstani steppe?

Here in America going fast off road is how you get every component of your vehicle fucked in seconds. Big rocks, logs, embankments, etc. tend to do that.

Seek mental help

>How will GM fangirls recover from this?
Outside of a Corvette, who would be a fanboi of GMC? Even the Camaro is slowing losing its appeal. I wouldn't be surprised if the Challenger replaces the Camaro as the 2nd best selling sports car in the USA in a few more years.

Holy fuck, you stupid autists are benchracing pickup trucks now? Fucking choke on your tendies

>using vehicles that cost five to ten times as much as an argument

>off-road
>people expect performance
Yeah let's see you go 0-60 on some fucking rocks holy shit you're really that fucking dumb

>using "i'm poor" as an argument

>still not addressing your pants on head retarded statement about going fast off-road even though like 8 people in this thread have brought up what a retarded fucking point it is

>implying horsepower isn't important offroad
Kill yourself

>implying
People go fast all the time off road. Ever heard of baja 1000? Diesel a shit. Get over it

It is. So is torque. Having a shitload of torque is very nice.

I never said it's pointless, why the fuck even say that?

You can't back away from how fucking stupid you are by using straw man. You have been going on and on about off-road speed and 0-60.

Just admit you are fucking stupid. Say it.

>False equivalency.
You dense mother fucker.

Being that they are NOT equivalent is his argument, you cock gargler. You obviously don't understand off-road performance, which is what sport trucks are commonly made for.

>torque
The Raptor already has 510 lb ft of torque at 3100 rpm.

The Raptor doesn't sacrifice hp for torque because it has both. Diesel a shit.
I understand diesel is trash

The Baja 1000 is babby off-road. The only thing that makes it good is the truly phenomenal vehicles they use that are purpose built for that terrain.

It's just flat fucking dirt.
Come up from 3rd world Mexico up to the states and you get actual rocks, fallen branches, embankments, boulders, sheets, etc. try going fast when you are actually off roads and pseudo roads

AGAIN you still won't admit how fucking retarded your point about off-road speed is. I'd like to see you try and clock a 0-60 in the Oregon Cascade mountain range

How am I retarded? All these ad hominems are getting annoying.

Diesel a shit

How about address how stupid the concept of going 60 when you are actually off-road is?

How about actually address the points I am bringing up instead of just claiming "diesel a shit"

>tons of torque at low rpms
>bad for offroading

>implying i said anything about 0-60 offroad
>implying people don't go 60 in baja racing
Lovin this damage control from Diesel fags
>implying the raptor doesn't deliver more torque
Diesel a shit

That's still faster than 98% of "sport scars" in Europe and Britain.

>Raptors
>good for actual offroad use
no

What does a raptor have to do with diesels being used offroad anyways?

Again, I already addressed how stupid bringing up Baja racing is for any actual off road comparisons in America

They are just driving over dirt. No big rocks, no logs, etc. In actually challenging off-road environments the massive low end torques of Diesel engines are inherently superior.

Oh and the raptor... Nice independent suspension lol.
And fucking cast aluminum control arms.

Keep it on the flat dirt, it wouldn't last up in the mountains

Because the raptor is better than this shitheap
>only the races i say count
Lol, stay mad

Diesel a shit

>the raptor is da best offroader ever fords commercial told me so
>posting a pic of Nu males sky
how oddly appropriate

And of course you have cock gobbler trying to bring yurop vs murica shitpost to this already shit thread

Not an argument.

I never said "only the races I say count" literal straw man.
No fucking races count. It's off-roading.

Keep damage controlling, the raptor cant handle what the big boys can. It's too soft, too poorly manufactured

awww did Chad in his diesel truck steal your gf? ;)

youtu.be/FrD7AI4XD_8

Look kid. I've been offroading with raptors, two of my buddies owned one at a time. They are cool for what they are but they aren't made for real rough terrain, they are made for flat deserts in the south US.

Diesels a best. 6BT > fag-coboost

I'm pretty sure OP was a Euro... Of course they're butthurt because our compact trucks have more torque and HP than their heavy duty trucks.

This.

Keep the raptor on flat, smooth, cushy dirt. It won't last in the mountains

Reading comprehension.
Diesel a shit.

You've never been in a 2017 raptor. Keep talking out of your ass

B-BUT MUH DESERT RACING TRUCK

youtube.com/watch?v=_Y_MAK3HCyw

lolno

Nigger we invented diesel. We made the most powerful diesel you've ever seen. We ARE the diesel. So don't start talking about torque.

Saying "reading comprehension" isn't an argument, especially when I understood what you said to a T.

Have fun idolizing a shit vehicle that's as durable as a sheet of tin foil. Just keep it out of the hills, I don't like litter and coming across a couple thousand pound heap of scrap broken on the side of the road would be a hassle

I love how no diesel cucks ITT can post the V6 raptor.

And then they start samefagging

No, but I've been in 2016 one
>it's totally different because it's a model year newer
It's still and IFS truck kiddo.

You don't know shit about anything. Newfags should lurk, not post.

Diesels a best. I'd put the 6BT against anything you got and it would push ur shit in kid.

They won't post the V6 because it makes more hp and torque. Diesel cucks are braindead, top lel
There isn't a 2016 Raptor.

>diesel fags now blatantly lying to sell their trash layout
Rotflmao

>buying a truck that can't actually off-road and has to stay on the pavement or dirt because of fragile fucking independent suspension featuring fucking ALUMINUM control arms. Absolute gold

Fuckin lol. Nice waste of money

The 2017 raptor doesn't have aluminum control arms.

Idk they defiantly sold them 2 years ago. Two of buddies both owned one.

We went offroading in slaughterhouse gulch and he tore the front bumper cover off his shit on a rock. He drives a Jeep Wrangler now.

Keep shilling for a truck you will never own busrider

>got caught telling lies
>mad nobody believes them

if my long wheelbase, base F150 without the offroad package can handle the mountains I"m pretty sure the Raptor will do just fine.

Hey, props to them. Only took a bunch of idiots tapping a stone and fucking their toys-r-us suspension up.

Now they have a 4130 steel control arm. A boxed, slotted control arm...
a fucking control arm...
An independent suspension...

This time they will have to hit a rock just a bit harder to fuck their shit up.
They upgraded from toys-r-us to Fischer Price

>IFS
>mountainous
Yeah nah.

t. general motor's marketing department

why is is that the people that insist on calling people "kid" over and over are the hugest mouthbreathing faggots to disgrace this board?

there was no 2016 raptor, there was 2009-2014 and a completely new one coming for 2017. and and Cummins that isn't a pre-emissions commonrail 24v is an overrated piece of shit. you've probably never even been in one. eat shit and kill yourself cobraanon

there are other types of trails/offroading than just rock crawling, you know.

He's angry because he got caught lying.

It's expected from diesel cucks

>saying I'm GM marketing
>only vehicles I've posted itt are Toyota, Mercedes, and International Harvester

t. Gm's marketing team

The 12V was, IMHO better.

All mechanical, especially if you can get the P Pump version

Lmao I casued trigger between the GM fangirsl lolz

>a completely new one coming for 2017

circlejerking over shit that isn't available yet is autistic as fuck. I bet you think the tesla "xxxx6383478" is going to be the second coming of Christ too?

>Mountains
>rock crawling

ok kid

>Cummins that isn't a pre-emissions commonrail 24v is an overrated piece of shit
That's just your opinion man. 12v for life.

Early 6BTs are god tier
The early electronic ones are excessively loud.

there is no fucking turbo coyote, you fucking retard, just because you read it on a clickbait site that doesn't make it confirmed and you ought to be fucking ashamed of yourself for thinking so.

>The Baja is Flat

damn, It must suck to be this fucking stupid

i.imgur.com/L81JF8j.gif

>that
>not flat
Flatlander pls go

This. The turbo coyote is going in the GT500 which will be unveiled at the Detroit auto show in January 2017.

how am I circlejerking? I stated that there is a new Raptor coming that's built on a new platform different from the old one. maybe you should work on your comprehension skills before you start judging others.

pic related

and 12v for life is your opinion. but diesels are my career. and frankly I wish Cummins had no share of the industry because there were only a few models of theirs that aren't complete trash.

>wanting a quiet diesel
go buy a Volkswagen

>this much damage control

You are stupid, but you are also american, so its normal