I have a Toyota yaris which I have inherited and has been a great daily driver

do you really think that hot laps were done on stock tiers?
benchracing is fucking pointless anyway

also
>key point to remember here is most manufacturers like to make their cars look good on papers by putting on the nicest and grippiest rubber available. the 86 decided it wanted to go back to the 80's with RWD and awful tires that skid everywhere for the amusement of the auto enthusiast.

are you seriously accusing mazda that they wanted their car look better on paper?
fucking miata of all things?

not to mention mazda also wanted to pay homage to the older models
though they overdone it a little because i don't recall any older miatas to have so much bodyroll and i had a chance to try every generation

>do you really think that hot laps were done on stock tiers?

they are.

they are done on the tires they're delivered with. once they're done, the car is delivered back. what Veeky Forums bases their benchracing is 99% of the time set by automotive journalist and publications after having employed a washed up racing driver.

>benchracing is fucking pointless anyway

couldn't agree more.

>are you seriously accusing mazda that they wanted their car look better on paper?

dont get me wrong, the NA is second on my list of all time favorite cars, and the ND might be even better and I'll be picking one up in the future for sure. but selling a car to your average joe civilian fitted with potenzas on a 150hp car is a bit over the top. pitting said car against its rival with, no better way of putting it, prius tires, is somewhat unfair and not something you should base your opinion on.

if you're like me, and im sure you are considering you're championing the mazda, try both and you'll learn to love both.

>though they overdone it a little because i don't recall any older miatas to have so much bodyroll

also, the ''good'' 35k ND that fights the 86 on these tests also have upgraded Bilstein suspension. considerabely less roll and still pretty comfy for a DD.

the lower weight, upgraded springs, diff and stickier tires is what beats the 86 on some margins in that case.

>BRZ
arent the BRZ and the 86 the same car?

badge, front spring rates, fender garnish, specific paint schemes and front bumper design aside

yes

new frs are ugly, old ones are on par with the brz

BRZ/86 nigga

If you want to avoid being a meme don't buy the miata. Get the successor to the god machine aka the Ae86