>4 cyl with the mpg of one
>310 horsepower; the same as the last gen V8
Assuming you can get over the muh V8 pony car, what is the downside to this? I may personally look at one for a daily driver down the road since I already have a V8 performance car with terrible mpg
Faster depreciation.
No matter how much you mod it itll be slower than a v8 with the same money spent on it.
Fake exhaust noise.
>Cheap sporty coupe as a dd
But why if you claim to have a performance car? Just get some reliable shitbox instead
Devil's advocate;
>don't plan on reselling car
>not using it as a track car, but as an economy car with a little more power than a typically 120hp dog
it's slower than the v8 and you'll at some point wish you had the v8. however, it's like 6 grand cheaper, pretty damn quick, fast enough to have fun, enough power for any daily driving need, and still faster than 95% of other cars you see. plus bitches cant tell the difference, and bitches love mustangs.
People know that you prep the bull
>it's slower than the v8 and you'll at some point wish you had the v8
Basically this. It'll keep nagging at you no matter what; I'll concede it's less shitty than the V6 but for the money I'd rather just buy something else and/or save up for a 5.0.
>plus bitches cant tell the difference
Bitches don't know shit about cars period, you could cart yourself around in a 20 year old 3 series and they'd think you were rich. I own a flashy-looking, reasonably fast car but usually drive my Miata (interesting but not expensive looking) if I think I might meet girls that'll see the car, gay jokes aside I'm trying to avoid gold diggers.
>economy car
It isnt. The mpg still isnt that great. If youre buying a mustang buy what its meant to be and get the v8. otherwise there are much better cars if all you want is economy and power.
Mazda 3. Otherwise stop being a bitch and buy the v8.
>otherwise there are much better cars if all you want is economy and power.
there really arn't. ecoboost mustang is legitimately probably the best compromise for cost/comfort/power you can buy in the US. it's genuinely a really good car, and I despised the previous generation of rustang.
>300hp turbo 4 cylinder
Just buy a WRX
This
I own a 16 gt premium and i daily it. Its comfy as fuck once youre in it but living with it is a pain the ass. I never would get teh ecoboost and at that price level I would go with a wrx or focus st
really it depends on whether youre willing to trade air conditioned seats for 4wd. personally I prefer rwd and a cool butthole.
>still as heavy as a v8 car
>if you want an economy car, buy an economy car
>you apparently already have a fun car, have fun with that car
>you're never gonna have as much fun in the heavy, sluggish mustang than you're gonna have in the car you own for pleasure
The biggest letdown of the ecoboost Mustang is the weight. Why go through the trouble of turbocharging such a heavy car with an inline four? It weighs 3400 pounds. Just build a light car with rear wheel drive. You could do the ecoboost thing, cut the horsepower down to get more emm pee gees, and leave us with a nice little engine to build from.
Ford is not good at turbo.
This is what I'm getting at. I think a Mustang convertible as a driver would be a lot more fun than a typical eco shitbox.
>Ford turbo
Not even once.
>He thinks the barra isn't godtier
Australia is irrelevant
>muscle car
>mpg's
Buy a fiesta faggot. You don't deserve a muscle car.
I was given an Ecoboost 2015 Roush Stage 1 for two days for a trip by a local dealership and I really enjoyed it. Pretty great car, great interior, fun to drive. The only thing is the clutch is so light that you can't let up off the clutch in first gear or it jerks like a motherfucker. But, seeing as its the same engine and probably same clutch as my Speed6, it acts the same way in first and it's a normal thing.
Anywho, great car to own though.
> thinking the MZR plant is a Ford product
I have a newer Jaguar with a V8. Don't really care what the muscle car fanatics think.
>New Car
>Not caring about mpgs
ecoboost is a meme. It's just a turbo slapped on the 4cyl as filler to make up the missing 4 cylinders.
Turbos used to exist to squeeze power out of the engine and improve performance, ecoboost, as it's name tells you, is just a "green" way of matching the power of a V8 without the V8. That's it
so, it's doing exactly what it's advertised and intended to do?
what's the problem here?
anywho. I've got no beef with the Ecoboost engine in mine. it's quick enough for a fun daily and the seats are super comfy but I don't really care that much for the S550 platform in itself. it's so bulky with such small windows and mirrors that even though I primarily drive a lifted crew cab, 6.5' bed F150, I find the Mustang to be much more difficult to merge/change lanes in and parking it sucks because the hood is so fucking long.
Should have got a WRX if you wanted a fun economical daily driver but ya blew it.
>20mpg city
>27mg highway
>awd
>ever having fuel economy
Is fuel economy the only concern? If so you should have just bought a Prius.
yeah, no, I had a 2009 STI and it was the biggest shitbox I've ever owned by a very wide margin
For the average normie sure but what will always get me is that you buy a mustang for two reasons - you want a mustang for the mustang name in which you may get a gt with an auto but likely a v6 auto and or a vert if that's your thing.
The other reason is you've always loved the big rumbling American feel of a massive V8.
It just doesn't make sense to get an ecoboost stang because you'll never get away from the i4's eternal fart can aftermarket.
That's worse than a straight piped v6
cunt
Pretending you're concerned about fuel economy and buying an AWD vehicle is about as dumb as buying a Rotary and pretending you want a reliable daily driver.
These cars have purpose. Fuel sipping while moving children and buying groceries in bumper-to-bumper traffic is not that purpose.
You can't have everything with a car. You've got five big concerns.
Fuel consumption
Safety
Reliability
Speed
Handling
They all operate on a scale of one to five in each field.
You have ten points to start. Increasing the base price of the model by two thousand dollars nets you one more point.
If safety is at five, speed is capped at two.
If speed is at five, fuel consumption is capped at two.
The other three stats take one and a half points each.
The car's value starts at ten thousand dollars.
If the car is new, reliability starts at a base of four. You get three other points to play with.
But price increases to twenty four thousand.
Every time I talk about the Ecoboost 'stang, I'm always saying that Ford should have put the engine in a revival of the Escort.
>rwd
>2600 lbs
>turbo i4
Essentially Ford would be saying "Hey Toyota, watch this!" and make a car that can do a better job of being an 86 than the 86.
But no, they put it in a 3400 pound bathtub.
That would be cool as fuck, but they already have the ST twins which are selling pretty well. Why would they try harder?
>he doesn't put icicles up his ass before hitting the touge
pleb
>7.3 turbo diesel
>Mustang
>not reliable
KEK!
You get none of the horsepower and its been proven to get worse mileage than advertised.. in a heavy ass car meant to be a GT it makes for a dull ride
cyl with the mpg of one
That isn't what owners are reporting, apparently there isn't that much of a difference in the real world between the 2.3 and the V8.
These turbo 4 pots are good at the economy tests and looking good on paper, but in the real world they never get the numbers the tests say they do. This has been happening in the UK for years with diesels and now the small turbo petrol cars too.
I would imagine the V8 will be more reliable long term, and much nicer to drive with a broader power band. Plus it won't depreciate as much, I would just get the V8.
>2016
>falling for the egoboost meme
>ever
FUCK MY SIDES
Can you use 95RON with Ecoboost? All Japanese turbos require 98.
>Suggest an eco 4 cylinder that makes significantly less power
>Then says buy a v8
I don't understand.
Same guy here. Just saw curb weight and lmao. Ecoboost is nearly as heavy as the GT and the Mazda 3 is 2800 for the base.
>Evolution V 1998 4 cyl turbo 280hp
>Ecoboost 2016 4 cyl turbo 310hp
only took americans 20 years to catch up huh
No real ability to increase power (manifold is cast into head), does NOT get the mpg one a '4 cyl' it's barely any better than the V6 in the real world, doesn't sound very good and it doesn't hold money as well as the V8.
Just buy the V8. If you're driving around town constantly, get a little shitbox that will use no fuel doing that. On open roads the V8 will use little fuel anyway
Ford AMERICA can't into turbo.
Aus an euro ford are fine
this
i've owned ford turbo shitboxes since the mid 2000s and never had a single mechanical issue
most of the time the only problems that arise are a result of normies not doing any services ever
People are getting really good results tuning these cars. You can make it run 11s consistently.
Yeah but there's a limit, can't go too big with the turbo because of the manifold
Meanwhile with the V8 you can go twin GT55s if you really want to for some reason.
Not saying they can't be fast, just that you run into a hard limit pretty quickly.
>Cobra 1998 N/A V8 305hp
>Focus 2009 4cyl turbo 300hp
Flip the script
>Starion 1986 2.6L 4cyl turbo 176hp
>Mustang 1986 2.3L 4cyl turbo 200hp