Is anyone else baffled that some people think choosing fucking stats somehow has more depth that the new talent system. Like how, just stop for 2 seconds and think about it.
Alexander Sanchez
Reminder invoker is the best girl
Matthew Lewis
APOLOGIZE
Hudson Evans
we dont want you to jungle anymore now go fight lol xD
Gabriel Anderson
>damage talents >gpm talents
These seem like placeholders or something. The values some heroes get and when they get them seems pretty arbitrary.
Ayden Perez
Are the +damage talents +base damage or +bonus damage?
Connor Taylor
nth for the gameplay changes were GOOD but the UI shit was NOT
Robert Wood
What was in the post-patch patch?
Kevin Cox
friendly reminder monkey king is broken
the passive will be rescaled within 24 hours to something more reasonable
Jeremiah White
>You can't diffusal repel anymore
What the fucking fuck. Are we supposed to just wait out the durationa and walk away in the middle of a teamfight against a support omni?
CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN WHAT THE OSFROG MEANT BY THIS.
Isaiah Ward
Anyone else think all niggers should be executed?
How does backpack work?
Ryder Moore
that sounds like a good thing
Jace King
People are butthurt that Homos of the Storm thought of it first.
What they fail to mention is that the skill tree in that game basically replaces most of the actual gameplay variety and depth while it's being tacked onto Dota to compensate for a lack of it in a specific area in addition to existing mechanics that blizzard babbies can't grasp.
Cameron Rivera
CHINKROACHES ETERNALLY BTFO YOU WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER TI
Thomas Jenkins
rofl anytime someone get stomped by a new hero it's clearly the hero's fault right :^)
Alexander Jones
PUT SHIT TEHRE, WHEN YOU WANT TO USE THE SHIT THAT IS THERE YOU PUT ON YOUR INVENTORY WITH A 6 SEC DELAY, OF COURSE
Leo James
New hero :
Monk King
Meele, Str
Skill 1 : Wushu Push Pushes the target making him wail as he is slowly knockbacked for a short duration.
Skill 3 : Intolerable (Passive) Grants damage multiplier as long as you are not attacked by any type of physical damage or else this ability is disabled.
Skill 4 : Heavenguard's Assault Disappears in the air as you split into multiple illusions. After disappearing, attacks the target 1 by 1 making him fly in the air in each attack. The illusions are invulnerable. The last attack is always done by the real Monk King as a drop kick, the real was isn't invulnerable however.
Illusion damage : 100% Stun duration per attack : 1 Attacks interval : 0.55 Fade duration : 0.17 Number of illusions : 6/7/8
Cooldown : 25/21/17
Dominic Scott
The UI shit can easily be changed so custom huds don't look god awful on the new hud. Just give them a bit.
Jason Jenkins
POST FUCKING ILEXA
Ethan Harris
4 BOUNTY RUNES
LMAO 4 BOUNTY RUNES
Jayden Brown
I HATE THE NEW UI HATE HATE HATERN HATE HATE HATE AHTEAB GAGTEAHAGEB
Evan Adams
>6 treants
Mason Walker
So did the jungle get buffed or nerfed this patch?
Oliver Wright
Shadow Shaman with Octarine and +3seconds shackle lvl25 talent can now permanently disable one target.
You have 10 seconds to defend this, dotards.
Luke Jones
I always knew my SnY and Blink build on Alchemist is the way to go
Adam Reed
How to put shit there?
You can just place it from inventory anytime?
Christian Carter
I'm just glad they kept the moving avatar from the UI. They could change anything they wanted but the moving avatars.
That being said, I think it looks nice, but I miss my '___ pwned___ head for ____ on the left
Dylan Jackson
Cant play because people leave cause some1 else get MK
Nathan Rodriguez
but you have to remember that meepo prefers to stack a camp and then poof it. it's def worse jungle for meepo since he used to be able to clear the entire thing then farm lane and go back
but he gets ancients now and exp is reworked so Im not sure if hes complete trash
Bentley Morales
old default HUD was ugly as shit though
Adam White
>chinese teams just pick heroes that get gpm talents at level 10 or 15 >they just turtle high ground infinitely until their entire team is 6 slotted
It's their new meta
Isaiah Phillips
>Shadow Shaman >level 25 >Octarine
when has these ever happened before
Landon Harris
>AM with Skadi and Alchemist's Agh upgrade
It really makes u think.;;
Michael Sullivan
when was the last time new hero wasnt OP as fuark? I cant remember
Nathaniel Lee
THIS PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH
Eli Williams
>Go to sleep because servers were getting DDoS due to F5 >Hear about "leak" hero talents >Wakeup >They are actually real JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI
Jonathan Peterson
>Shadow Shaman with Octarine and lvl25 there you go retard
Ayden Taylor
bottle core on every hero MERLINI WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
Lincoln Thompson
>even with these XP buffs support cucks think they will get to level 25 in >5% of their games
Camden Sanchez
>7 out of 10 games are hot garbage and nothing but a stupid waste of time, the other 3 are the reason people play dota
How true is this statement, dotards?
Asher Sullivan
I don't like minimalism either but I don't mind having more space to look at the map
Oliver Long
with shrines, this feels like 6.83 2: electric boogaloo
hope im wrong
Samuel Brooks
There is a lot of potential for the new UI to be easily fixed, but if they don't bother, the game will be very awkward to play for a while.
They need to rework how to skill abilities with hotkeys since a fair number of people are used to O+skill (usually with O rebound to something accessible). I use unified orders so often I want to wait until I can end or escape a fight before deciding what to skill next.
Joseph Bennett
>watching bsj lose to clq when hes playing his signature hero slark vs 3k players
is there any better feeling
Aaron Wright
I WANT TO PUT MY DIRE IN HER RADIANT
Aiden Edwards
You can blame admiralbulldog for fuelling the op talent hysteria with his bullshit stream
Leo Butler
not true it's more like 19/20 and 1
Jonathan Gonzalez
...
Bentley Morris
familia_pakistan build for sun wukong WHEN????
Gabriel Hill
You're really starved for attention aren't you. Here you go user.
Dylan Stewart
>screen clutter makes it extra sophisticated and skillful :)
Justin Miller
So I don't get it. Are games supposed to get longer or shorter?
These power spikes with the talents seem to imply the latter but then the shrines are saying otherwise. Are we going to get 60+ minute hamfests with every level 25 talent making shit stupid as fuck?
Aaron Cruz
I feel like shrines are by far the worst addition this patch but we'll see
Ryan Anderson
If you let Shaman get to level 25, farm an Octarine and slowly kill you between permastuns while your allies cannot help, you already lost.
Justin Kelly
I want to plant that seed
Zachary Baker
>having 2 ricing carries on the same team
Yeah that'll sure go well.
Blake Sullivan
>requires shadow shaman with octarine, level 25, and that particular talent >requires absolutely no stuns or interrupts to be inflicted onto the shadow shaman
hmm
Parker Perry
Like I see people saying the new tree system will make dota harder to ballance but it's the opposite imo. More things to change about heroes makes for easier and better ballancing. Now you don't just have skills to fuck with when you are ballancing so heroes can maintain their unique feel in terms of playstyle while having their tree nerfed a little at say the level 10 choice.
Charles Adams
I think base damage.
David Powell
slardar looks like a girl, i think if they give him pupil-less red eyes he would be edgy as shit
Eli Ward
>oppai >>>/out
Angel Lee
Just ctrl + skill hotkey to level up.
Jacob Phillips
This is literally the LoL patch. You're going to see a fucking jungler every single game, just like league, and just like Smite.
RIP dota.
Daniel Rogers
Holy fuck this new hero seems broken as fuck.
Samuel Sullivan
I find it funny too This patch was a huge buff for core players
David Brooks
>Enigma remodel >not Jakiro WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING? FUCK OFF
Isaiah Foster
>Slardar actually looks like a fucking sea monster now Finally I can play my old main. Myrmidon was based as fuck.
As was this one
Jackson Torres
>luna >sd disrupts >she casts manta >ck casts aghs ult on her >base dies
th-thanks frog
Elijah Diaz
>teamfighting is more prevalent >tomes give tons more exp >supports dont have to walk to base thanks to free regen >bounty runes everywhere
I can see why you spend more time shitposting than playing. being 1k must be hard
Angel Wilson
I know this was a reddit meme but isn't this just lifestealer ult but attackable?
sounds so dumb
Caleb Clark
to put things into perspective: even in that retarded AF vs OG game, not everyone would get to their lvl 25 talent.
it was an 80 minute 100+ kill game.
Austin Gray
This game is an arena shitfest now
Eli Nelson
very true for normal and low mmr games.
From my experience high mmr game like 5k+, 80% is enjoyable, no salt, no blame even if you lose.
Cameron Hall
>jungle value cut in half >YOU'RE GOING TO SEE JUNGLERS EVERY GAME retard
Carson Ramirez
is it safe to say that naga-poster has officially quit dota?
Elijah Flores
>LOL YOU LIKED LVL 1 FIGHTS? >TOO BAD XD
Joseph Morris
>Support CK is now more viable than core CK t-thanks icefrog.
Parker James
slardar looks like your big sister than always want to fuck you whenever your parents are out
Evan Miller
creeps are cute
Anthony Thompson
but do you, as a support, want to use those shrines for yourself? wouldn't you rather save them for your cores/carries?
Ian Morgan
The idea is to prevent non-scaling heroes from falling off entirely and to reward successful turtling instead of making it existential torture when you know you are already fucked. Farmed AM about to push highground at 60 minutes? Watch him get permastunned while melting under seven damage-boosted Shrapnel charges.
Carter Collins
Valve literally took the best of each game (HotS "talent system" and some LOL mechanics like spell lifesteal) and add it to the better game, Dota 2
They added 2 more camps you fucking idiot, and JUNGLE BOUNTY RUNES LUL. How is that not a massive buff?
Brayden Roberts
Most likely whats going to happen is multiple heroes in the early game running through the jungle to clear it, since its on a 2 minute timer you'd want to get the most out of it
Jonathan Cook
What? It's the truth.
But sure man buy that midas and all the tomes, steal all the bounty runes and hope the enemy shits out illusions at you.
I'm sure this'll win you games :^)
Logan Wright
nah, it's more like aghs luna he leaves at the end of the duration
Evan Taylor
>+2 multishot sacred arrows what does this mean?
Leo Martin
>tfw can't sneak rosh anymore THIS IS NOT FAIR ICEFROG WHY DID YOU DO THIS?
Ethan Peterson
so what am i even supposed to do when the enemies anti jungler invades my bounty rune and steals my jungle?
Charles Garcia
Because now they respawn every two minutes instead of every one minute.
Jacob Jackson
they're aoe and have 5min cd
you can just use it
Lucas Gomez
can someone link me to the original thread where /d2g/ started talking about 7.00 as soon as it came out
I missed out by a efw hours
Zachary Richardson
Some of these changes make me think IceFrog wanted some heroes to have different playstyles or more dynamic choices but was afraid that buffing/nerfing them would be hard, so it was either OP with many options or balanced with only one. Talents offered a middle ground, somewhat.
Enchantress changes make me wonder if it would be possible to build her more for healing shit instead of carry.
Jackson White
on top of that, iron talon got dumpstered.
these people are fucking stupid, i was hoping they'd be gone by now
Bentley Wood
Wait it only works when he's doing tricks of the trade?
terrible
Lucas Gomez
The UI is so bad, I hate this no design meme that so many things go for nowadays. I don't even want to call it minimalism because there's usually still some design stuff behind that
Jack Green
I think more people should talk about the tome changes.
Aren't those fucking huge?
Nathan Davis
>jungling becomes a bad choice >biological impulse to do stupid shit intensifies in sub-3ks