So the fact that one or two heroes normally leveled stats early is justification for the rest of the hero roster to have fewer interesting and meaningfull choices throughout all stages of the game. Not to mention the increased ability for heroes to be balanced appropriately and effectively. You guys are funny. The talent tree is superior overall, face it.
Tyler King
necrophos rework is just a mass nerf of everything and the addition of a worse version of one of invokers spell
rlly makes u think
Aaron Baker
How quick are games in this brave new world? Anyone played any on the test client?
Jackson Rogers
Are you going to give Valve 13 shekels for the terrain?
Caleb Johnson
reminder that tiny is a good guy uuuu
>tfw you've got a quarry to settle
Jonathan Morgan
>sun wukong gets a 600 damage crit 8 minutes into the game provided he right clicks the enemy 4 times what did valvefrog mean by this
Sebastian Perry
>Level 10: +5 All Stats OR +15 Movement Speed >Level 15: +8s Nature's Attendants Duration OR +40 Damage >Level 20: +12% Magic Resistance OR -25s Respawn Time >Level 25: +10 Nature's Attendants Wisps OR +25 Intelligence
nature's attendants lasts 10 sec and has 10 wisps when maxed (at +10hp/sec each), so that doubles the hps and nearly doubles the duration, if the enemy carry has no bkb you are basically unkillable for 20sec, particularly with the magic res talent and a glimmercape
could be fun to get a blademail too if you have a lot of hp
Jaxson Cruz
Is Visage viable again?
Grayson Reed
shut the fuck up you retard
Caleb Smith
Longer, nearly every major change promotes them being longer.
Jacob Rogers
1 MORE SLEEP UNTIL WE GET TO PLAY THIS SHIT FOR OURSELVES
1 MORE SLEEP UNTIL WE GET TO PLAY THIS SHIT FOR OURSELVES
1 MORE SLEEP UNTIL WE GET TO PLAY THIS SHIT FOR OURSELVES
1 MORE SLEEP UNTIL WE GET TO PLAY THIS SHIT FOR OURSELVES
1 MORE SLEEP UNTIL WE GET TO PLAY THIS SHIT FOR OURSELVES
Lucas Perez
M A D M A N A D M A N
Jack Walker
>25 treants at level 6 Wow, maybe nature's prophet will be good now.
Anthony Powell
Goodbye Dota
Jackson Kelly
I just woke up an hour ago and looked through the changes
what's the consensus on the patch? In my opinion it already sucks & I hate it. Talent trees are bogus, still heroes without aghs upgrades, didn't even get some of the much needed balance changes this patch sorely needed.
Landon James
>Slark:Scepter Added
>Added Scepter to Slark. Reduces ultimate cooldown from 60 to 30 and causes Shadow Dance active to be a 325 AoE, hiding allied heroes underneath it.
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Nathaniel Barnes
previous thread
Ayden Bailey
>Necrophos
Logan Cook
One thing that is troubling to me is how apparently all heroes have -20 All Stats on lvl 25 if they don't take any talents that give them back, and even then it isn't all of them. Wonder how that will change things, lots of heroes will feel way less tanky.
Evan Cooper
>supports thinking they'll ever get to level 25 in games
Hunter Jackson
>Suicide Squad Attack! changed to """""""""""""blast off""""""""""""""" so little sand nigs dont get ptsd >PWND notification changed to a cute little sword so women feel safer around men >KDA removed unless you press alt so the dota UI space is safer for you >"Holy Shit" upon Ultra Kill is removed because killing is bad mkay
Is this the most SJW patch yet?
Colton Anderson
Reminder that nobody has a god damn clue what's going on
60% of d2g did not fall victim to the Dunning Kruger Effect and realized how little they know
the other 40%, who did fall victim to the Dunning Kruger Effect, are basically evenly split between their dunning krugerness -- the end result of their autism and lack of knowledge spewing forth across all 4 equally incorrect options
Illusion heroes also got fucked by virtue of the fact that they no longer have +20 str and agi at level 25. This also helps the general relevance of heroes like skywrath in the lategame now that I think about it.
Julian Baker
>poison sting cute
Josiah Butler
>hero literally designed to take last hits >give him shit damage >further nuke his already shit damage >give him a fucking slow what did icefraud mean by this?
Evan Carter
...
Ian Hill
>blademail on a hero that reduces your attack speed by 120 when you even think about attacking her nah
Elijah Jackson
Death of quakesounds was a tragedy.
Kevin Powell
nice
Liam Howard
You're late, fuccboi.
Wyatt Hernandez
5 bracers support meta
Joshua Morris
You failed!
Gavin Gonzalez
The beauty of it is it's across the board so changes can be made to talent tress where appropriate if necessary. But I agree there is potentially for some larger scale fuckery.
Austin Sanders
What is the opposite of claustrophobia called because this new HUD is giving me that.
dota 2 is more fun. thats one thing I know. And I've played dota 2 since juggernaut
pic for proof
Nathan Bennett
This patch is the excuse I neeced to stop playing New map? Ok Shrines and meme runes? I can deal with that Talent trees? We're offiially not dota anymore
Jackson Sanders
I thought you died
Austin Walker
>US OLDFAGS AMIRITE
Blake Martinez
>+1 Forged Spirit Summoned
Fuck off this is broken
Gavin Carter
agoraphobia is fear of open spaces
Lincoln Stewart
He got the riki treatment, where two of his abilities got combined with one of them being nerfed, and the new ability the added seems like shit but its probably bretty fuggin good. Pugna decripify has been some serious shit recently, maybe this could be similar depending on it's cooldown.
Gabriel Ward
The changes to techies is good except for his proximity mines.
They scale really like hot ass into the later parts of the game, making them only useful for clearing creep waves. Stasis Trap and Blast Off are both fucking ridiculous though in terms of utility.
Joseph Roberts
nice work!
Connor Fisher
In a lot of cases less tanky overall, but more damaging it seems. Outside of a few people who get a bunch of +300HP and + armor and all that.
Going to be a strange and noticable thing in late game compared to now.
Ryan Moore
why don't you google it you dumb nigger?
Carter Adams
>He hasnt played the test client
25 in like 30-35 min
Daniel Foster
>These buffs to Visage Are you ready for some trilane faggotry?
Nathan Price
>Level 25: +17% Greater Bash Chance KEK
Carson Jones
Stats Damage Resistance Intelligence
Oliver Roberts
agoraphobia?
Jonathan Lewis
go away commie
Gabriel Lee
>they removed HOLY SHIT wtf i hate 7.00 now
Ethan Anderson
>I'd like to see CM and Shadow Shaman get improved turn rate talents omg YES
Christian Jackson
you lose forge spirits from QE though, its a huge invoker nerf since you cant have double spirits at level 9-10 anymore
Julian Fisher
>us redditbabbs amirite
what's your fucking point
Isaac Green
holy shit
sexy female UT announcer when
Brayden Gonzalez
It's almost as though they put him out on the test client to see if he should be toned down before his proper release. Gotta sell those arcanas though ;)
Jose Gray
He doesn't create 2 forge spirits if he has 4/4 quas/exort, so this talent basically just gives him back something they nerfed.
Christian Jackson
could someone help me, ive tried to install the test client but when i open it from my steam library it doesnt open properly. I can still hear the sounds for some reason but nothing opens up
i just wanna play some dankey kang
Bentley Fisher
>Slark gets Aghs >attack building every 30 seconds while you're all covered by Shadow Dance >if you don't have a bunch of ground target stuns no items counter this strategy
Brody Powell
>quakesounds smelly, dumb redditor scum >___
Robert Baker
GUYS PLS
SPECTRE?
WHY DID THEY LEAVE HER FUCKED LIKE THAT?
Dylan Johnson
i fucking knew they did something to game sounds, fucking kikes
Anthony Ward
I dont actually know if they did I was just mkaing that up but I havent heard it yet on shitstains stream
Liam Murphy
I like it Talent trees benefits need tweaks because some are really retarded and others are too good But the idea is good
Aiden Sullivan
>techies' lane presence is entirely gone >techies' kill potential outside of remote mines almost entirely gone >remote mines nerfed
Grayson Thompson
absolutely degenerate that they got rid of it
I want it back
Tyler Roberts
The wind up on blast off is long enough that I can allchat allahu ackbar while waiting for it to actually go off it's something
Zachary Butler
My man.
Evan Russell
So when is tommorrow considered for "tomorrow" for valve. It's 10.30pm where I live, should I just call it a day or can I expect this thing to be released in the next 5 hours.
Jonathan Rivera
>Gee people really really hate playing against something you can't counter outside of (in almost all cases) ult stuns >Hmmm, lets give it to his entire team on a short cooldown Fuck this frog
Grayson Long
so no more stat point?
Luis Richardson
Go to bed
Luis Gomez
>PWND notification changed to a cute little sword so women feel safer around men >"Holy Shit" upon Ultra Kill is removed because killing is bad mkay is this true?
Jayden Brown
well I sure as hell hope not. I like the legacy sounds and lines.
WTF THEY GOT RID OF THE "HOLY SHIT" VOICE RESPONSE
WE RATED E FOR EVERYONE NOW
Ayden Gonzalez
JESUS CHRIST
Adam Clark
I think it's going to be a minimum of 13 1/2 hours still.
Ethan Watson
So who's that fourth spirit gonna be lads?
Charles Ross
>we wuz kangz hits you four times >you die
dotards?
Ethan Hughes
ILLUSION META >ILLUSION META ILLUSION META >ILLUSION META
Nathaniel Adams
>No Troll buffs
Chase Walker
PWND is definitely true its a homo ass little sword.
Carson Jackson
im hoping it's just a test client thing but my fps is dropping to like 45 and i was able to run it at like 90 before very worrying
Liam Rodriguez
>mask of madness no longer increases self-damage, but rather silences you who GIVES A SHIT i can bash over a THIRD OF THE TIME
Thomas Sanchez
HILLDOGS
WHERE WE AT
Alexander King
The things is, some heroes benefit more from those 20 all stats and others dont really care thats why the talent shit got introduced, it arguably make heroes that didnt care for stats to go for what they truly need to be better
Adam Thompson
How do I play Enigma now dotards? Is jungling even worth it anymore?
Angel Howard
>all announcers have their holy shit removed FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>Mask is strictly better on nearly everyone who already bought it The fucking madman.
Owen Evans
So far MK seems like a safelane farmer, but what about jungle?
He gets a passive that helps him kill stuff quickly and gets decent built-in regen, long range nuke to stack multiple camps and he can move through jungle faster via tree hopping And for added meme value his attacks have long range so he can cliff jungle. Thoughts?
Ethan Murphy
R/DOTA2 LITERALLY JUST BUTCHERED DOTA 2 WHAT OTHER REASON DO YOU NEED IN ORDER TO UNINSTALL THIS GAME, GULAGITES?
Carson Howard
>tfw too intelligent to get excited for the new meta
Nicholas Price
I would say either air or water spirit but storm already kind of covers both I don't know
