/sg/ - S.T.A.L.K.E.R. General

yes. Jaded memers will tell you otherwise but it is still a good game.

I have a link to a mod combination that will rejuvenate the game and make it much better without drastically changing the experience if you want

ayyy

OWR + LT's OWR adjustments is the way to go.

also turn on hardcore AI aim.

>also turn on hardcore AI aim

they fixed that shit finally???

its works just fine with the latest version of OWR. None of the patch changes change what this addon does. Just apply it over the top of the latest OWR all the same

No

it was never broken? All it does is make the AI have less spread in their deviation.

>it was never broken?
cmon now

yeah, and it was fucked up, making them incredibly innacurate.

which is why i asked in the first place.

actually now that you say that, it might still be broken.

i was using hardcore ai aim on an earlier mod of alundaio's on CoP so i assume it worked the same on coc

>I have a link to a mod combination that will rejuvenate the game and make it much better without drastically changing the experience if you want

I'd like that vary much.

Alright, script for surplus weapons is done. Now for the testing. And a shoutout to all - I can do multiple versions of the script, so each can suit the likings. For now, there's the absolute old soviet milsurp gear (SVT, Mosins, SKS, shitloads of pistols and hunting guns) with better weapons carried sparcely by elite stalkers. I'm open for other ideas for that stuff, just give me a shot

How do you report and ignore somebody at the same time?

Is it just me, or do the OWR3 binoculars lack the target identification feature present in vanilla?

Example of the script in works (AK-105 and SVD from high tier enemies I spawned for testing)

The only weapons I found during killing spree in Cordon

moddb.com/games/stalker-call-of-pripyat/addons/pripyat-2016-2-pr101ba031an401dynhud20

read through the description for install order and all that jazz

you can also make mercs and freedom carry nato weapons that correspond with their ranking

make the army carry soviet weapons only, i.e. aks, abakans, vals and other shit also based on their ranking and remove nato stuff from their loadouts

make more experienced stalkers carry a variety of weapons both nato and soviet

i dunno for ecologists

make monolith use mainly high end soviet weapons

duty same as military

and hobo loners and bandits should use soviet milsurp, while a bit more experienced bandits should use better soviet stuff

that's about it

Thank you

That's how it works for now. Few threads earlier some user recommended something similiar, although Freedom uses milsurp gear as well, monolith too, paraphrasing - "They're fanatics, not millionaires". Mercs still use high-end nato weapons

then that's it, the rookies were the only problem really.
i mean finding a val on a bandit and a groza on a rookie loner after a firefight was a bit jarring

Not anymore, friendo

First time playing CoC. Spawned in Zaton as a loner and I gotta admit, the world feels pretty dead. Not much activity going on around me, and all the quests I've taken from NPCs are a million miles away in the swamps, cordon, or Agroprom. Is this normal?

CoP maps are mostly empty until you disable the brain scorcher

bandits and monolith should have a wide range of guns. bandits get whatever they can loot off of other stalkers and monolith are brain washed stalkers from other factions

Oh really? I didn't think there was a main quest line in CoC. How do I disable the scorcher to get more NPCs up north?

you start the game with story mode enabled and find doc in the swamp, you also have to get a psy helmet from sakharov

I didn't start in story mode. I'm playing CoC without any of the optional game modes selected. Are CoP maps still mostly empty in this mode?

well duh

Am I reading this right? It looks like the AKS-74U shooting rifle rounds is in every way worse statistically than the MP5A1 firing pistol rounds. Am I missing something here?
Mods: CoC with OWR3 and LT's balance addon.

it's the same in stcop

fucking bullshit, man

Why though? The brain scorcher isn't enabled since I'm not in the story mode right?

comparing bars between calibers is useless or are you talking about the description

It is enabled

Damage stat comparison with weapons of different caliber is useless.

Does anyone know any good weapon mod with PPSh in it for CoP?

I hope you find one.
I've only ever seen PPSh in SoC mods.

needs pump shotguns

pump shotguns would be every fucking where in the Zone from the few lucky rookies to have those to virtually every other experienced/veteran

they're legal in most countries and they're more versatile than double barrels

semi auto shotguns for the most part are military stuff that only the military, Duty and high ranking stalkers would have

There are pump shotguns, quite often to be fair

its mostly useless to worry about because many of these mods standardize the damage based on the caliber rather than the weapon

make sure u give the PP19 bizon some love, it never gets enough in these mods.

against unarmored targets the two are most likely largely the same, but against anything wearing a light bulletproof vest to the heaviest exo, the AK will fare better if the mod isn't retarded

those bars don't take into account the k_hit of the ammo. Most likely that 5.45 does more damage than 9mm, without even considering the hit_power of the gun, which is what those bars show

also let's not forget the k_ap of the ammo. If the 5.45 doesn't have higher k_pierce and p_ap than the 9mm, the mod maker is retarded.

cool then. 12ga pump shotties would be by far the most popular weapon in the Zone

missouri 1.1

>misery
>good models

Choose one, the only one worth salvaging was G43 imho

Yeah, I think they do.

There really aren't enough pump action shotguns, especial short ones. Stalker mods have never really had an abundance of short shotguns aside from the TOZ cutoffs.

>12ga pump shotties would be by far the most popular weapon in the Zone
Agreed.

On that note, I think slugs are really underpowered, they should do more damage than 7.62x51, while buckshot on the other hand, is overpowered against big game.

Seems good, to be fair only Freedom and Mercs seemed to have a high concentration of NATO guns in the game, Loners / Monolith can be found with them but they carry whatever they can find and there's no organization with either of those two. Generally, I think the area around Dead City / Army Warehouses would be the only place in the Zone where 5.56 would be the most common.

As for Ecologists, I never pictured them much as fighters, I imagine they'd be given submachine guns, pump action shotguns, and PDWs like the MP7 for self defense.

lead slugs would do fuckall against armored targets tho. Kevlar vests like sunrise suits and above realistically stop slugs (altho there would be a lot of kinetic energy transfer) but hard plates would just laugh at them

Unless you find some super snowflake sabot armor piercing tungsten slugs or some shit

it's the best you can get unless you port soc/possibly cs mod models over

I'm also thinking that - save for the highest rank mercs - weapons like SCAR's and other special snowflakes should be only able to be ordered from Nimble. Opinions?

>Kevlar vests like sunrise suits and above realistically stop slugs (altho there would be a lot of kinetic energy transfer) but hard plates would just laugh at them

Stuff like ceramic armor might stop slugs, but soft armor, and dyneema poly armor would get fucked up hardcore by it.

Slugs don't really have to penetrate armor to be effective. They have enough kinetic energy to do stuff like break bones and cause internal damage without penetrating.

isn't it like this already? i mean i've only seen merc and freedom experts carry scars and other "snowflake" rifles and event that was very rare

didn't you already determine that only the rookies and rookie bandits have illogical loadouts?

I thought of giving Monolith the SCAR, maybe the top rank of Mercs, though I don't think Mercs would even use them as much as Monolith.

I'm thinking of giving Clear Sky FN FALs and G3s, along with Freedom.

Nah, clear sky isn't backed by westerners like freedom. They mainly use mid tier soviet weaponry and that's exactly what they should be using.

I definitely want them to use 5.45 for the most part.

In addition to that, most of the traders suck, because each trader tends to sell a bit of everything, they should sell what their faction uses, and Neutral traders should have more diverse inventory.

I want to tweak weapon damage for a mod. Is it functionally the same if I double ammo damage instead of hit_power?

It's for SoC

>comparing bars between calibers is useless
>Damage stat comparison with weapons of different caliber is useless.
Really? I never knew this. What makes the comparison useless between calibers?

because weapon damage in OWR is purely ammo dependent

>ceramic armor might stop slugs
Ceramic armor WILL stop slugs. Even cheaper steel plates don't give a single fuck about lead slugs
youtu.be/ute-FFA4XZQ?t=1m51s
not even a dent

you're right about soft body armor tho
youtube.com/watch?v=yh7pW8j-6pc
it stops the slug... but holy shit the blunt force trauma

top

kek

this.

what's so funny?

>semi auto shotguns for the most part are military stuff that only the military, Duty and high ranking stalkers would have
Really? I've never thought of semi-auto shotguns to be anything special. They cost more of course, but they aren't exactly rare weapons. They'd probably be more common than any western weapon (MP5, M16, etc) in the zone.

I mean I own a semi-auto shotgun in real life and I don't need any special permits or anything for it. Definitely cheaper than buying an AK-74 or 47. Semi-auto shotguns have been around basically as long as any shotguns have.

I don't know where you live, but depending on the country, semi autos can be in a completely different category than pump actions

hell, even in the USA, some 12ga shotguns are condidered "destructive devices" and aren't on free sale because some bureaucrat decided he didn't like the gun. Notable examples include post 1994 SPAS-12 shotguns and Armsel protectas

That got me thinking. Why exactly is Freedom one of the factions that prefers western weaponry? I understand mercs preferring western weapons, since many of them are in fact western themselves, but freedom are basically a bunch of hippie type borderline anarchists who just want the zone to be loved and understood or whatever. So why does that make them use more rare and expensive western weaponry?

they have western suppliers

>So why does that make them use more rare and expensive western weaponry?
The way that I've always interpreted Freedom having NATO weapons is that they get Western weapons dumped on them by suppliers using them.

I think both Freedom and Mercs have pretty much the same supply chain, but it's divided up into two hands, Mercs get overt Western support, while Freedom get covert, or indirect Western support, as in, they may not be even aware that they are being supplied as a way to push Western interests.

Am I the only one who thinks CoC feels empty? It feels like there's not much to do apart from shooting stalkers and bandits really

all i ever do is lurk here, watch porn and play stalker

literally all i do

>play monolithan ironman run
>spawn at pripyat
>fuck yeah
>do the first mission
>got VSK-94, AKM from military and some dead monolithans
>go back, sold a couple of mutant parts for random monolithans
>repair all the shit
>buy more ammo for VSK-94 and AKM
>fuck yeah i'm ready to go
>take some companions
>wanna go to radar
>run run and suddenly stand on an anomaly
>fuck fuck ufck
>can't get out of it
>"ur too exhausted to move"
>get killed

baka

How scary is CoP? I played SoC but had to have a buddy play the scary parts for me. I'm starting up CoP for the first time and it doesn't seem too bad so far but I want to know if I'm gonna need to call in a friend to tag team this at any point

Same. I'm in Zaton and it feels pretty dead. I'm hoping as I explore more the AI will populate the world more or something.

Why does Freedom have western suppliers though? Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier for Freedom to get eastern, more local weapons? What made them accept a deal with a western supplier when it would surely cost more than eastern?

I guess the Pripyat tunnel under the Jupiter plant can be a little scary since it's dark and Snorks are everywhere. There's also a cool bloodsucker lair mission, but it's not as bad as you'd think since you've got a friendly NPC with you. It's definitely not as scary as the underground SoC sections.

>had to have a buddy play the scary parts for me.

I agree, but I think you need to specify the kind of semi-automatic shotgun. Tube fed ones should be fairly common and cheap. Mag fed Saigas or Veprs are more expensive and should be less common, less so if they are capable of selective fire.

Wat.

Do you live in the US/have purchased firearms here? Although it is true some special snowflake guns have been banned over the years, mostly due to their depiction in media, semi-automatic shotguns are not any harder to get your hands on than a pump action.

If fact they are extremely common to see in gun shops and I think there's a even manufacture that sells a model out of Walmarts.

I live in Michigan and they a very common sight, even in the hands of adolescents, during bird hunting season.

Don't even think California has a restriction on them, just capacity.

Just get a good shotgun and you won't have anything to fear.

What about itemsoup? That one is for v5 too.

...

call him and tag-team the game anyway

drink vodka and hang with your bratan

then post gay cuddling green-texts

Um, what? The semi-auto shotgun I own is in fact a SPAS-12, and I definitely legally own it. You can select between pump and semi-auto firing modes so I have no idea why it'd be illegal. It's not capable of full-auto firing without extensively modifying the firing mechanism, so it's not banned under the Reagan shitty gun bans.

if it's post 1994 and not NFA registered you bet your sweet ass it's illegal

>farm has 2 full cosy building
>loners sitting out in the rain

muh campfires

who cares itemsoup is literally one of the dumbest mods around

Is the track from the Pripyat outskirt hands down the best ambience track from the Stalker series? It feels so frickin' atmospheric.

youtube.com/watch?v=NxcCve7alGU

>What made them accept a deal with a western supplier when it would surely cost more than eastern?
Freedom got into a war with Duty, and this spurred an arms race between them. They get the weapons either for free, or for a discount because they use them to war with Duty and the Military, who's job is to keep the Zone closed.

Basically, NATO generals dumped a bunch of guns on a black market supplier to flood Freedom with weapons and use them as a can opener against the military Cordon.

Waiting for STALKERSOUP 1.1.0010 to release for drop table fix

Honestly I'm not sure of the manufacturing date or even when the weapon was designed, but I bought it a year ago. Pretty sure I own it legally since I bought it from a local gun shop at a gun show.

>SPAS-12 and LAW-12 Shotguns are listed illegal for possession in states that hold a "military assault weapon style" law that identifies the shotguns by name on each states individual ban. The states may have had a registration timeline that would allow it to be grandfathered prior to each states individual ban. U.S. States and territories listed that ban the Franchi SPAS-12 and LAW-12 currently from future individual civilian possession. CA,[15] CT,[16] District of Columbia,[17] MD,[18] MA,[19] NJ,[20] NY.[21]

>A SPAS-12 Shotgun is not a NFA Registry item if it was imported/grandfathered into the United States between 1982-1994 bearing the import markings of F.I.E or American Arms.

I know next to nothing about US gun laws so I'll trust wikipedia on that one. Apparently I was wrong and it's not a NFA item, still banned inder some bullshit laws, under certain conditions

Who what kind of spaz need to own a SPAS anyway?

That citation you gave only applies to 7 states listed right at the end.

The SPAS is only banned from further import.

Don't worry about the noguns non-american, user. Your gun is almost certainly legal.

>I'll never be American

I don't get it

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression :
[error]Function : CInifile::r_section
[error]File : Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 520
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Can't open section 'wpn_groza1_po4x34'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report

stack trace:

0023:0076717C xrCore.dll, xrDebug::fatal()
0023:7499A72D MSVCR120.dll, _ValidateRead()

Are you using itemsoup?