What modern muscle cars should be like

the fact that you have to compare a performance car to a family sedan just proves my point

the fact that it runs around the same times as a V6 Camry also proves my point

When resto-modding and "pro-touring" stops being a thing.

>the fact that it runs around the same times as a V6 Camry also proves my point
Well i mean one is 46 years old and the other is brand new with millions in R&D.
You would think Toyo would be able to make a car that is worth shit after 46 years huh?

>Camry
>3.5 liters
>tuned for economy and reliability

>Duster
>5.6 liters
>tuned to squeeze every bit of power out of it

well, they're there because of the huge braking discs

>mass production
>tuned
pick one

kek. That "600mm Wildwood 8-pots" meme.

Heavy, unnecessary shit.

>this asshurt

youre comparing a family sedan to a performance car

then expecting the family sedan to run 12s or something

are you retarded

even a professional in a Duster could only manage a low 14

any Joe can go into a Camry and stomp the gas for the same times

Engines won't work at all without any kind of tune applied to them. Even a stock tune is a tune.

Looks like shit, the modern challeger has better proportions

I know, toyo fags thinking a v6 is performance lmao.

>youre comparing a family sedan to a performance car
Family Camrys have 4 bangers btw.
>then expecting the family sedan to run 12s or something

omg lmao muscle cars r so slow lmao butthurt
>gets proven wrong
>muh muh performance
340 Dusters weren't even as fast as they came kek.
Yeah modern cars will be faster than the boulevard boats but not every car from the period was a boat.

>Even a stock tune is a tune
Stock tune is stoichiometric with 8.5:1 compression, non ported heads, and small valves and if it was a Thermoquad, economy primaries.
You have a long way to go if you want a tuned 340. It came from the factory capable of revving higher than a 318/360. That's about it.

they are slow

a performance car runs the same times as a family sedan

my grandma has a V6 camry. When she purchased it it she wanted to it to be similar to her old 200 hp 4.9 Cadillac. Needless to say she should have similar expectations for a 4cyl family sedan camry.

Why are so butt hurt that modern econoboxes have superior performance?

>they are slow
nah

>Why are so butt hurt that modern econoboxes have superior performance?
Because they actually have inferior performance. I guess at some point we all need to rationalize driving a piece of shit civic.

>modern cars are physically smaller
The old Challenger is smaller than the new one.

>comparing a v6 family sedan to a basic commuterbox

chrysler fans aren't known for their intellect, but are you really this retarded?

they actually are tho

theyre quick once you change most parts of the engine and use slicks

Are you really this upset that i'm challenging your world view that old cars aren't as slow as you hope they are?
The fact of the matter is most modern cars are just as heavy, even heavier than muscle cars with less power.

>bu..but my track times.
There is no standard, unless you have the exact same driver skilled with both cars on the same track, there is no unbiased comparison to make.

>theyre quick once you change most parts of the engine and use slicks
Poor tire quality was part of the problem in the past but i doubt anyone is using shitty bias ply on any cars anymore.

tbqhwyrn any muscle car can benefit from bolt on FI.

>Poor tire quality was part of the problem in the past but i doubt anyone is using shitty bias ply on any cars anymore.

nope

F.A.S.T. uses stock tires and run 10s and 9s

>F.A.S.T. uses stock tires and run 10s and 9s
Your average vintage car has horribly narrow wheels and tires making for poor road contact. This cannot be argued.
The easiest handling upgrade for any classic is modern wheels with radials full stop.

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except they use stock period correct tires and run 10s and 9s

no shit modern tires are better

>except they use stock period correct tires and run 10s and 9s
Cool
nice straight line.
Throw a curve in there and bask in the scrap metal.

cool

moving the goalposts after talking about the 1/4 mile the whole time

guess what a stock Camry will outhandle any muscle car

you lose again

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>guess what a stock Camry will outhandle any muscle car
lol no,
stay rekt lmao

>bloo bloo fwd udersteer RWD god-tier
>oh but except when it suits my argument to make people think my mom's Camry is a race car

wow why is Veeky Forums such a shitty place

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that damage control tho

you should just admit the loss instead of embarrassing yourself further

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>i can't handle that cars have gotten shittier: the post.
Post Civic plocks.

cars have only gotten better

your kind of denial is actually sad

>cars have only gotten better
In safety and soullessness.

You will never experience the visceral feel of a car that has no safety equipment and is just a frame around an engine. That hurts me inside because it's so fun and i wish everyone could experience it. It's for the better though because not everyone can handle such great cars.

old cars are just as soulless

your "soul" is just your trying to justify driving an old piece of shit

>I like half-inch wide tires on my 50 year old muscle car which had a 3-speed auto and topped out at 114 MPH

>old cars are just as soulless
Explain yourself.

>I like half-inch wide tires on my 50 year old muscle car
I upgraded to modern radials.

>3-speed auto
4 speed manual*

> topped out at 114 MPH
stock two-speed landboats are known to go over 130. There's no computer to tell it not to.

>Explain yourself.

what is there to explain

its just an old car

"soul" is your coping mechanism

Has nobody heard of the equus bass 770?

Just as i thought, you don't know because you've never even sat in one.

>old cars are just as soulless

someone should tell old NSX fanboys that.

ugly sandnigger chariot

:eyeroll

just as I thought some cringe ass response as damage control

first car I ever drove was a '73

It's like $400k and sold in limited numbers

IMO that looks based as fuck besides the wheels and the interior

One day you'll learn when you sit in a car older than 1999.

>:eyeroll
>not cringe

back to gaybook and plebbit with you, faggot

Ive owned 8 cars and all of them were older than '99

Ive driven everything from big block El Caminos to small Japanese sports cars to landbarges and flatbed trucks

theyre just as soulless as a 2017 cars

go back to the crib kid

>Ive owned 8 cars and all of them were older than '99
lol

>Ive driven everything from big block El Caminos to small Japanese sports cars to landbarges and flatbed trucks
lol

>theyre just as soulless as a 2017 cars
lol

>kid
Oh lmao i see what kind of person i'm dealing with. For a second i thought you mattered.

:eyeroll

this shit is just hilarious

>no door handels
Gee golley cant wait till the electric blows and its a 5k fix

If the 2019 model has an updated chassis (which isn't as heavy as the titanic) and looks like this, I'll buy it.

It sure is. Nothing is funnier than fags that think their shitbox is a race car.

>continuing to type like offsite cancer
This is why the rest of Veeky Forums hates boards like /diy/ and Veeky Forums
You faggots show up from God knows fucking where and start dragging in your foreign lexicon and refusing to lurk and assimilate. Fuck the hell off.

And saying you like modern cars is like saying you like 3DCG. Objectively wrong taste.

>w-why wont he be a colossal fgt like me :(
>o-only cars within my 5k budget are worth liking

suck it up bitch

old cars are just old cars nothing special

>old cars are just old cars nothing special
t.modern car stylist.

Nothing special is way better than garbage.