/svg/ - Shadowverse General

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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Some user made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:

mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
usamin.love/sv.html

Get your [email protected] Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
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Conceded veekyforums.com/thread/163167236/video-games

Other urls found in this thread:

veekyforums.com/thread/163167236/video-games
strawpoll.me/11914883
corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
youtube.com/watch?v=973hR9z73So
youtube.com/watch?v=wlr_zBGzi_Y
shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sZ2.5_394.5_394.5_394.62sZq.62sZq.62sZq.62sac.62sac.62sac.62xRY.62xRY.62xRY.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.66gi2.66gi2.66gi2.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.66j8S.62zty.62zty.5_4sS.5_4sS.5_4sS.5_5bA.5_5bA.62xSA.62xSA
shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0047
youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0
shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/otohimes-bodyguard
strawpoll.me/11916296
pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58534440
veekyforums.com/thread/163233180/video-games

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

This thread is a bully-free zone. Think twice before hitting the post button.

Methnerd
Methnerd

first for eris is my waifu

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Luna is for bullying....using a dick!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

*roars*

Soft_member
Soft_member

This is now an arisa thread

viagrandad
viagrandad

Ok. fag

Skullbone
Skullbone

R-Rowen

What are you doing

Soft_member
Soft_member

people ranting about direct translations being wrong

RUB A DUB DUB THANKS FOR THE GRUB

w8t4u
w8t4u

Serpent force?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Attention EOPs.
Everyone should play on the Japanese client using Japanese voices.
I will not approve of you otherwise.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

open fully animated pack
shit like always
just kill me

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

n-no he just threw down a siegfried now

ROWEN STOP

likme
likme

Rowen finally lost it, concede before he can, safe him

StonedTime
StonedTime

veekyforums.com/thread/163167236/video-games
no, they're two different people

JunkTop
JunkTop

strawpoll.me/11914883

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Topical picture OP
Be this user veekyforums.com/thread/163167236/video-games
Got that Tsubaki from a Take Two pack
Have 400 gold, decided to blow it on standard packs
Get this in one of the packs and a few golds in another one
I just need three Otomemes and another two Aurelias and I'm set for Midrange Sword.

TreeEater
TreeEater

He ended by evolving a hydra and only attacking once..

I almost wanna concede for this guy

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

79 losing streak

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

happy_sad
happy_sad

pick one leader and play him only, stop switching

takes2long
takes2long

put him on 1 hp and concede

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Okay Rowen.. thats it...

Flameblow
Flameblow

veekyforums.com/thread/163167236/video-games
That's not an argument, I'm afraid. Please insert a coin to continue.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Honestly when I first read Witchy Duo I thought it was referring to her and her guitar, as in musical duet. It's not that far fetched for her to have a magical soul imbued guitar.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Wait, why is that not in the OP?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

that's not possible cmon

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

wake up
can't wake up

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Wake up
RoB is not out

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

shitters spamming rob pics

Nojokur
Nojokur

h-hear the dragon's roar

Bidwell
Bidwell

I didn't even notice it was gone. Who cares.

Dumb Nicoposter.

Skullbone
Skullbone

tfw constructed take two

FastChef
FastChef

had a terrible losing streak with my face dragon netdeck and i made my own midrange-controllish dragon deck and i'm actually doing well

Evilember
Evilember

Win 6-9 games
Lose 1 gam
Repeat
I can't stop winning! Erika a best! I love Erika!

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

post it

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

craft cerebus set
instantly regret it

maybe shadowcraft will be good next expansion.

askme
askme

Someone obviously does when people keep noticing it's not in the OP.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Arena
no 2 drop
no 3 drop
concede

askme
askme

at the very least it will be the most fun class

Skullbone
Skullbone

probably sandbagging

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

tempo zero attack 3 drop
Uh huh, I see.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Seems like it's just one guy every other thread getting mad about it to me.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I wish I had most of these honestly.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

someone post the PPAP parody with ringon and satan

Playboyize
Playboyize

Get ready Nico-chan! You need your beauty sleep!

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Do you mean (You)? Nobody asked anything until you brought it up, like every thread. It is the same with the "akin to crapstone" nonsense, you really want it in the OP for some particular reason.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Can Marlin find spellboost followers?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

shitters spamming rob pics
when they usually only get posted like 4 times per thread and in direct relation to the topic at hand

What the actual fuck did he mean by this?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

youtube.com/watch?v=973hR9z73So

Evilember
Evilember

Reminder to praise dingdong
youtube.com/watch?v=wlr_zBGzi_Y

RavySnake
RavySnake

this is in A0, deck's something like this
shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sZ2.5_394.5_394.5_394.62sZq.62sZq.62sZq.62sac.62sac.62sac.62xRY.62xRY.62xRY.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.66gi2.66gi2.66gi2.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.66j8S.62zty.62zty.5_4sS.5_4sS.5_4sS.5_5bA.5_5bA.62xSA.62xSA
but i have a genesis dragon in there so something's off

StonedTime
StonedTime

read the card

King_Martha
King_Martha

You mean the expansion after RoB correct?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

hai guys flood le thread with custom cards that will never be made! xDDDD

eGremlin
eGremlin

Mad HSbabies.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

We MUST wipe clean the vile stench of the sub-human brood's taint. They must all die. All of them. ALL of them! Let not one stand! Let their lesser blood drain into the dirt and filth of the earth where it belongs!

idontknow
idontknow

I'm a whale with pretty much all cards and 18 complete decks
Gonna be a living hell to arrange them all for the expansion, though a few of mine are still pre-DE and works fine

Firespawn
Firespawn

Why?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Will the memes rise on the 29th, /svg/?

Booteefool
Booteefool

My wife, do not touch.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

RoB ain't saving shadow either, sadly.

But control shadow is still a fun deck to play.

Techpill
Techpill

Will Atome be like Mordecai?

Methnerd
Methnerd

any ringon touhou remixes?

Emberburn
Emberburn

master

Flameblow
Flameblow

Play private match against friend who refuses to undub
His leader, Forte the Dork Dragoon, says stuff in english through my game
Huh?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Memes will raise sky high

Lunatick
Lunatick

She has a boyfriend.

askme
askme

where did word whale come from? i know it meaning in the context of spending cash money but why?

TreeEater
TreeEater

I wouldn't touch that walking pile of STDs even with a ten-foot pole.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Go back to bed Gert

JunkTop
JunkTop

It's a useful resource to have, especially during these card previews when you can't see the evolved art yet unless you find the corresponding Rage card.

I'm not him, and I also care, so there goes your argument.

Nice strawman, I guess? This barely deserves a (You). It's not for custom card crap, it's for seeing the art of shit that's not in the game yet, like any evolved Rise of Bahamut card. It's also so you can see shit that isn't in the game yet that eventually will be, but last I checked nobody's shitting about going "here's my waifu card and I want her to be a 4-mana 8/8 with storm and she can attack twice and it's great and balanced lol"

At this point I believe it, there's no rational reason for these people to be this angry about a resource you can just choose to ignore.

girlDog
girlDog

Aurelia is my tough, competent and protective wife who will defend me from danger!

takes2long
takes2long

This isn't memes. That's just cancer.

w8t4u
w8t4u

do doujins of erika getting matingpressed by orcs exist yet?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Execute on empty board
Odin
heh.....

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

shitposting this vehemently

Lunatick
Lunatick

Amelia is pure.

It's a useful resource to have
That only one person, you, uses or even notices is gone actually.

Not sure why you're being so autistic.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Why does she look like a dwarf?

TreeEater
TreeEater

Think about it.
You're big, strong and nothing can touch you because you've spend so much money.
You just chill around in the game water and eat the smaller plankton.

Originally it's a casino term where they would want to "fish" the biggest guy and get all their money hence whale.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Your wife is in love with a Japanese high-school aged sword

FastChef
FastChef

yfw when you had a lethal but you're too retarded to count

JunkTop
JunkTop

Thats a big horse

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

tfw forced to play aggro if I want to keep a 50% win ratio as shadow

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Floral Fencer Aurelia and Halloween Aurelia when?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

every person that disagrees with me is actually just one person

Stop this meme, how hard do you think I'm samefagging? I'm not even the person that brought it up in this thread, so either get an actual argument or fuck off.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

no bully short people

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I stand with this man and YOU all MUST do the same. We cannot shy away from the threat at our doors

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Nooooobooooodyyyy caaaaaareeees.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

he thinks only one person uses it
You have no proof either way, HScuck.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

So what, it's you and one other guy in a thread of 160 people that even notices to shitpost over it?

In the interest of thread quality I'm going to stop giving you (You)s now. Have a nice day.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

because you're a big catch

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

if i say it enough time's it'll be true!

Fuck off with your tumblr-tier comebacks.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

So basically blood is getting all the good cards from RoB.

Control blood will be automatic tier1.

girlDog
girlDog

thanks for clearing that up

massdebater
massdebater

159cm iirc according to Granblue but they aren't exactly great with keeping things consistent see Forte

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

But people obviously do care otherwise we wouldn't be having this shitshow.
I hope you stub your toe before going to sleep.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Moon Al-Mi'raj didn't get the alternate art
FUCK,, BUNNIES ARE BETTER

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0047

wow...I hope they compensate with at least 10 free packs!

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

He can't be an HScuck since the gradeschooler jab at /hsg/ is still in the OP. There's been a few people who wanted to take it out anyways.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Stories to tell

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

free packs?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

People
Two people in a thread of 160
W E W
E
W

Where have you been? We don't get free packs for maintenance anymore.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

RoB and granblue Forte are different characters

5mileys
5mileys

Are you of good moral standing and willing to fight against the demon horde?

not until cygames fixes their mistake

idontknow
idontknow

one card in a forty card deck
over three games draw that one card in my opening hand

loving this rng

Snarelure
Snarelure

Why flaunt her around then?

RumChicken
RumChicken

This is a reliable card you idiot
And the core of the deck you will be bitching about the most when the expansion comes out.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

We never got packs for regular meintenance
We get packs for emergency or very prolonged maintenence

Skullbone
Skullbone

implying we're the ones shitposting over it

One guy posted the sites as a reply to the OP, then you fucks started sperging out over how it doesn't need to be there. Why does it have to be a fight at all? It's not in this thread's OP this time, okay, fine, so why does it send your ass into orbit when it gets posted in the thread at all? What the fuck is your problem?

my argument that everyone I dislike is one person didn't work, so now I'm gonna say there's only two of them! That'll show 'em!

You might as well be tripfagging with how obvious your posts are, I'm not giving you another (You) after this one.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Quit playing already

viagrandad
viagrandad

Jog my memory /svg/...

Did we get free packs on DE launch?
Did Arena switch to DE pack rewards for a bit on DE launch?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Mene, you can google that shit if you want. These sites aren't some obscure shit.

TreeEater
TreeEater

play aggro
match against control
play control
match against dshift
i just need 7 wins. that's all. i've been playing for nearly an hour

FastChef
FastChef

She'll be a dead card if you get DShift/flame destroyer in your hand though. I'm actually curious as to how spellrune will handle her inconsistency.

Everyone who disagrees with me is a samefag
Irony.

Illusionz
Illusionz

we got 10 DE packs
no

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Why do I only run into moonrune guys with a jap flag playing this game, regardless of time?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Hikkis

StonedTime
StonedTime

3 mana neutral
Destroy a amulet

eGremlin
eGremlin

Floral Fencer Aurelia
I'd love to see how OP they would make this card.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Playing Daria in dshift

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Why would you play this instead of Courageus Knight?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

We never got packs for regular meintenance
Actually we did, but it was before your time.
Then they just stopped doing it when the game launched on Steam.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

playing her with dshift
If you brick your hand because you're retarded that's nobody's fault but yours.

She'll be run in aggro spellboost rune.

WebTool
WebTool

Pretty sure the core still remains Merlin and Flame Destroyers. And boy will people bitch about those turn 5 Flame Destroyers when Rune actually had a board to contest with before they hit.
She'd not a Dshift card. She's an aggro card and will refill your hand once you dumped it all on the board.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Yes 10
Only during an event a month later

eGremlin
eGremlin

because the game is very popular in Japan

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

i miss the free stuff from the beta

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Replay function to view previous matches
We're getting this in the next patch on the 28th. Does this mean we'll be getting match history + stats along with replays?

Its one of the few things I've missed from HS, no Trackobot automatic match tracking

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Aggro rune meme
We'll see how well that deck works out.

idontknow
idontknow

Merlin doesn't fetch followers.
Destroyers might be too slow.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

And you can just ignore it if you want, what's your point? It's been there for months, and people have liked it being there the entire time up until now. You want it out of the OP? You make the thread. The rest of us will include it, because we're not as fuckin' needlessly petty as you apparently are.

I call out one guy who keeps being a retard
"that means you think everyone who disagrees is the same person! Hypocrite!"

No shit there's more than one of you shitposting like mad, here's your last (You), too. None of this matters anyway, the sites'll be back in the OP in a thread or two and none of you will care, because the people who don't use it won't notice and the people who do use it will enjoy it.

Methshot
Methshot

Some Japanese autist actually got to masters with a weird aggro rune deck during DE which means it was already borderline decent (though not good by any means).

Now that they are introducing like a dozen spellboost based followers and that bullshit face damage rune spell it almost seems like an inevitability.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

here's your last (You),
Holy shit.

Some Japanese autist actually got to masters
To be perfectly fair, you can get to Masters with nearly any deck as long as you grind hard enough and it's not completely garbage and janky. IIRC someone got to Master purely with Dirt Rune too.

5mileys
5mileys

Nerfs are here.

Elana -> 5PP
Aria -> 4PP

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

The rest of us who?

RavySnake
RavySnake

I want to believe.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Source it

likme
likme

otohime is now 8 mana
aurelia no longer gains spellshield

HOLY SHIT 20K FREE VIALS

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Hard to say how the meta will develop, if you will often be in a position where they have 3 followers it's a 3/4+3/2 vs 2x2/2. Even if they don't getting a 2/2 into your hand is not terrible.

I think it's more of a conflict with Aurelia though.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Because 3/4+3/2 with ward>2x 2/2.

WebTool
WebTool

aw shit! TIME TO BUY 100000 ELENAS TO RESELL THEM

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

lying on the internet

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

this is fucking ridiculous how i queue into my counters every time. i hate this rock paper scissors shit so much

whereismyname
whereismyname

I'm all up for the RoB card links so that's at least 3

Flameblow
Flameblow

user you have to make it believable.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Ways to imrpove my memecraft?
Aside from getting an extra ancient elf and tia

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

queue'd into dshift for the 3rd time in a row. i'm just going to concede against all tits from now on, i don't have the time for this shit

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

im bad
i blame the matchmaking for it

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

if you pay for crystals, cygames reduces your chances of queuing into your counters

King_Martha
King_Martha

yeah i'm bad for queuing into dshift literally 90% of the time i play as control, sure was outskilled there i guess

Emberfire
Emberfire

Just use RBS instead, ez

Firespawn
Firespawn

mfw this is true

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

watching RoB anime because of expansion to shitty cardgame I like

It's pretty cool tho, I like cheesy fantasy

farquit
farquit

Vials are Ether in the Japanese version?

That's kinda cool.

Playboyize
Playboyize

playing control
you deserve it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

i played aggro for 30 minutes and queued into nonstop control, so i switched

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

drop this demonic strike
You forgot to say Favaro!!!

Snarelure
Snarelure

It's miles better than the average anime garbage
There's like a couple good shows a season and it was one of them.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Honestly I'll be a bit sad if Aria's pp cost gets increased. Because I won't be able to bounce it with Kaleido anymore.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The japanese checks out but I'll need a source on this.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

animated Tia
jelly

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

veekyforums.com/thread/163167236/video-games->

learn to 4chanz test

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

it was one of my first legos

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

ftw granblue anime will be garbo compared to snb genesis

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

E-easy dailies right?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

why are you not running execution and shitting on elanacucks /svg/?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

make welfare face dragon

just replace the fortes with seabrand dragons

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

HAHAHA I GOT PRANKED

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Post source even though it's probably fake

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

is my deckbuilding the problem?
no it's the dragons fault

5mileys
5mileys

This would kill aria forever (rip), but elana's would still be usable.

iluvmen
iluvmen

5 pp to remove a 3 pp amulet

idontknow
idontknow

Let them hear your [ROAR] user

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

execution
5 PP
elena
3 PP

gee

i wonder why

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Implying I don't petrify it when that's their only play turn 3

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

only retards play tech cards

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

a disgusting amulet worth the 5 PP though

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

winning 3 as haven and 4 as shadow is totally doable

sorry about the other dead daily, though

FastChef
FastChef

and what are you going to do about the elena boosted followers?

Illusionz
Illusionz

A lot of the time, spending turn 5 doing nothing but removing it is not worth it

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Do you have to manually change your leader for the same craft every time or can you set one for specific decks?

5mileys
5mileys

This week's Top 5 Strongest Decks

Aggro Forest (58.33%)
Tempo Forest (53.51%)
Midrange Sword (53.43%)
Seraph Elana Haven (52.54%)
Face/Aggro Dragon (52.54%)

JunkTop
JunkTop

all those cards in the next expansion PERFECT for aggro forest

WE FORESTVERSE NOW BABBY

farquit
farquit

Why is every streamer I watch that's somewhere at the top of the ranking playing DShift or PtP Forest then?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Aggro forest
How???

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Friendly reminder that forest and haven did nothing wrong

Sword is the only retardedly broken class in the game

no bad matchups
just clear the board xD

massdebater
massdebater

play t2 playing dragon
going first
rush face because dude isnt playing any cards
Get him to 4 hp
he plays 4 5 point removal spells in a row
lose the game because he had evo advantage

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

'''aggro'''
it's just tempo forest with goblins

lol

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Forest is gonna be in a real bad way come this xpac.

They're barely getting anything outside of maahes and white wolf, but it's gonna be free token clear for days for most of the other decks.

But it looks like it's gonna be a good time to be blood.

5mileys
5mileys

Post'em

WebTool
WebTool

Because the most popular decks aren't necessarily the strongest.

Top 5 Popular Decks

Midrange Sword (15.64%)
D-Shift Rune (11.98%)
Purgatory Forest (10.87%)
Garuda Haven (10.35%)
Tempo Forest (5.31%)

happy_sad
happy_sad

lily is a bad card meme

(you)

w8t4u
w8t4u

Why does Shadowverse have so few neutral cards and why are most of them straight up inferior to class-specific cards?

I feel like Goliath, for example, should be buffed to 4/4 or 3/5 so that he'd become a meaningful card that you'd actually consider using. As is, he offers the same stats as many 4pp followers, but has no effect. I also think Fighter should be a 2/3

SniperWish
SniperWish

kill yourself

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Why would they not play the best decks in top 10

MPmaster
MPmaster

I want you to think about what you just said.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Did you ever think they might find those decks fun

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

nigga please, he´s right about the neutral cards feeling rather underpowered

5mileys
5mileys

fun

Methshot
Methshot

What's the point of this card

Not even good in arena since the number of neutral cards you can get there is quite limited

TreeEater
TreeEater

This is cool but if neutral cards where like that everyone would run them and the there be no class identity.

Just take a look how DoD is used in every aggro/aggresive deck.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Because they aren't as fun?
I mean face dragon is just a worse version of midrange sword.
If you want to play a midless play on curve deck you might as well play sword instead of dragon.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

expecting free packs

This is why we cant have nice things.

Free packs should be a happy bonus that you get once in a while without asking for expecting it.

When free bonus stuff becomes a standard way of expecting attention from your games, it just becomes a toxic circle of wanting and wanting, and then you stop being happy, because all you can think of is why they have not given you stuff yet, no matter how often you actually get it.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Dragon is bad in arena

Firespawn
Firespawn

Think about why they're underpowered. Think about why giving everyone access to something that's straight up better than class specific options is bad.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

it's almost as if these basic cards were designed to be weak on purpose.

TechHater
TechHater

tfw can't name decks until i get the cards for them

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I guess how strong they are doesn't matter that much then if you can get first in the ranking with weaker decks.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Lily is interesting and 6pp almost-banish +2/2 is good tempo-wise, but there's better shit to play on turn 6, her big thing is being reusable with bounce, but there's better shit to bounce.
She's great against shadow, and if neptits shadow becomes big, she'll definitely see play.

But the problem is there are just much better 6pp plays for Forest.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

spam "hear the dragon roar" before doing lethal
faggot dcs

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

they dont need to be worse, just viable options

takes2long
takes2long

stfu, cuck

Methshot
Methshot

teenage
not even user

w8t4u
w8t4u

Because you get tired of playing extremely one-dimensional (get the joke?) decks, and want something that have more options, win conds or simply a more varied gameplay overall.

People who are intelligent wont ever fucking play aggro bats for 1000 games even if it had 0,1% winrate, they would bore themselves to death.

b-but being intelligent means you do the logical thing and use the best decks

No, intelligent people want to be stimulated above all in the end.

askme
askme

access to something that's straight up better than class specific
Nigga nobody would run fucking goliath over class specific turn 4 evos (for example) even if he was 4/4, or any other turn 4 followers with whatever class specific effects. But at the very least he wouldn't be a card that you literally shouldn't use, ever, in 100% of situations.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Can I play a good Aggro Blood deck in RoB without having to put these neutral cards that feel weak into the deck?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Doesn't have to be so cut and dry. Neutral cards can be statistically strong or have universally useful, but underwhelming abilities (like Bellringer's draw 1 card) while class unique cards can have abilities that synergize well with their class abilities or other class cards.

Soft_member
Soft_member

But then he'd be a neutral Death Dragon

RumChicken
RumChicken

n-nice refutation

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

kill the elves nano

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Intelligent people wouldn't be playing a children's card game to begin with. Damn nerds.

MPmaster
MPmaster

I've been playing for a week, and I need two Aurelias and three Otohimes to complete the midrange deck. If they do get nerfed then I'll try something else out, like dirt rune.

girlDog
girlDog

Death Dragon already exists as a 4/4 for 4, Goliath's purpose is to be the basic average that gets replaced by better cards.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Reminder to remove all elfposters

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

no they dont, its why classes have their own cards you brain dead piece of shit

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Believe it or not, this is not always the case.

There are many intelligent people who play games that are also designed to be played by children.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

insults
whever you say kiddo

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This is what Hearthstone does and it has fuck all class diversity (and the recent expansion only made that worse).

Spamalot
Spamalot

You're a faggot Rasmus.

w8t4u
w8t4u

post-RoB Dirtrune vs any non-PtP Forest.mp4

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

tfw someone floods the board with subhumans near you

SniperGod
SniperGod

fuck off magica, go gas some jews

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

After not getting 5-0 for the longest time, got 3 in a row today. Feels good. Gonna sleep well tonight.

Techpill
Techpill

Did the new expansion fuck Hearthstone up even more? Someone who plays both games please enlighten me

farquit
farquit

3 hours without anyone wanting me to concede
tfw only get 12 concedes today

Firespawn
Firespawn

why dont you just go to hsg?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Looks teenage

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I really want to try playing sword or forest decks but two months into this and I can count my relevant sword and forest golds and legos on one hand.

Cygames does not want me to have nice things.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Its pretty dead

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

lmao cuck

eGremlin
eGremlin

Dirtrune going full dwarfcraft when

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I SAY HEAR THE

YOU SAY

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

this Envybae girl is breddy good

Methnerd
Methnerd

Winning against blood
He drops this fat fuck and starts healing for 4 every round

DELETE THIS FUCKING CARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Booteefool
Booteefool

girl
oh man

Spamalot
Spamalot

Hearthstone also has more classes than /svg/ which means even with this process, classes in Shadowverse should remain more unique and diverse compared to Hearthstone.

idontknow
idontknow

[roar]

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Envybae
watching a niggress

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

How can lowdefencefags even compete

eGremlin
eGremlin

I have Forest dailies to complete and I haven't touched the class since finishing story mode. How's something like this? I have a Rose Queen and one PtP I could put in, but I don't know if they'd be very useful.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

letting him get into vengeance
your fault shitter

askme
askme

I'm about to delete Elana and Seraph Elana decks. They're just unfun. Thinking about a Ramp/Storm-Ramp Dragon Deck and working on a Tempo Forest deck.

Snarelure
Snarelure

at least she explains shit, every streamer of shadowverse i watches can't communicate

Emberburn
Emberburn

She was the one that was brought in as an emergency commentator during the garbage stream yesterday, right? I was pleasantly surprised with how competent she was. Way better than the braindead asian that kept going 'j-jk ;)))' when he outed himself as a retard every 5 minutes but that's not much of a bar to surpass.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

user dragon is even less fun
I don't recommend it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

she just called reddit retards. maybe she isn't all bad

WebTool
WebTool

she

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I l-like Dragon!

Spamalot
Spamalot

I don't care about her skin,I saw like 10 niggers in my entire life and they don't intimidate me.
she is in master that's all that matters.

w8t4u
w8t4u

anyone know if my account will be safe if i reinstall the game

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

control blood deck called "I fucking hate myself"
emoticon on the end

So close but so far...

Lunatick
Lunatick

Bane?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yes but until cygames sees fit to give dragon usable card draw it will just be a "play shit on curve and hope you don't brick" deck.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

are you implying that she has a dick?
Veeky Forums should adore her then

cum2soon
cum2soon

He's a tranny. He talked about his hormone therapy once on stream.

Lunatick
Lunatick

...honestly, if you get like two of these up, you get an insane value engine considering a lot of neutrals draw more cards.

Uriel, Goblin Mage, Teena, Bellringer, Raiza. Being able to permanently keep a 4/2 carrot or 3 of them on the board would be insane.

A neutral deck might really be feasible with this thing. It's literally banner for neutral.

Soft_member
Soft_member

i saw 0 trannies in my entire life
i don't fucking care

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

He

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

at what rank does banner become bad? because i'm at A0 and it's still the only deck i consistently gain rank with instead of queuing into counters over and over and getting slapped back down

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

delete this
why do people do this

Emberburn
Emberburn

So it's a tranny and a nigger?
Oh man

SniperWish
SniperWish

It's literally banner for neutral.
Doesn't buff followers on the turn it's played.

Lunatick
Lunatick

never
where there are havenhags, banner thrives

Booteefool
Booteefool

/pol/

askme
askme

last bronze card for shadow is zombie pirate
no spookie cuties

I died a little inside.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

at what rank does banner become bad?
This is a meme. Banner's winrate stays almost the same at all ranks (this is because you will face haven and dshift at all ranks)

viagrandad
viagrandad

Just look at the vods. Just some chubby white dude.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I'm more disappointed that the last shadow card sucks.

Oh well, it got some real nice looking cards.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Quick, /svg/! Post your RoB theorycraft list.

5mileys
5mileys

GIVE ME MORE DECK SLOTS.

I'LL FUCKING PAY CASH FOR MORE DECK SLOTS AAAAAA.

Methnerd
Methnerd

this nigger manage to buff remi to 10/8 and 2 6/6 ward but i manage to kill it with urn + silent rider
tfw reaper
mfw i use discard counsel and fucked myself

JUST KEK MY SHIT UP

I dont even think he realize i had no cards left.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

40 bellringer angels

Bidwell
Bidwell

3x insight
3x angelic snipe
3x craig, wizard of mysteria
3x levi
2x kaleido glow
3x conjure golem
3x wind blast
3x clarke, arcane scholar
3x witchete emmyou
3x piercing rune
3x fates hand
3x ogler
2x lightning shooter
3x dorothy

rate

Emberburn
Emberburn

white dude
hormones
sounds like nigger
also has "bae" in nickname
americans should be erased from Earth

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

3x neptits
3x mordecai

5mileys
5mileys

remove elf

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

E R A S E D

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Discard dragon
aim is to deck yourself out by turn 7.

JunkTop
JunkTop

implying

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

le pol boogeyman
back2reddit

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Japanese moot doesn't care

Emberburn
Emberburn

just hope next trend will be chopping your head off

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

83602

Concede please, happy holidays.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Fuck off, nigger.

likme
likme

You share a thread with trannies

TechHater
TechHater

le reddit meme strawman
Consider suicide

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Turn 7
Your list is shit if you haven't decked out by turn 6.

TreeEater
TreeEater

How good is Seraph in Take 2?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You share a thread with frogposters

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Where did all the Elana faggots disappear to in A rank?

I've done my dailies for the last couple days and its just endless Elves

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

It's okay. It can be hard to find a time to put it down at that stage of the game and still have enough steam to either stall or count it down. I'd rather go with a safer lego pick, but I've had some decent runs using it.

TechHater
TechHater

Proceed to remove elfs

Evilember
Evilember

Is there some kind of guide for playing tempo elf and other somewhat difficult decks?

Booteefool
Booteefool

I'll start with their clothing.

RavySnake
RavySnake

3x Goblin
3x Valkyrie's Spear
3x Unica
3x Bellringer
3x Sektor
3x Goblin Mage
3x Khaiza
2x Uriel
3x Teena
3x Feena
3x Lucius
1x Call of Cocytus
1x Sahaquiel
2x Odin
2x Olivia
1x Satan
1x Bahamut

Pure neutral list.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Get to A rank or up, let a few elves ram their deck up your anus and you will come to understand the playstyle.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Since the elf males have a low sex desire elf women are sex predators that love human cock

5mileys
5mileys

Tempo Elf is actually very straight forward, not just compared to PtP but compared to a lot of decks.

NA resources suck but GameAi has play guides on some decks if you can read it or decipher Google translate.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Thats not a lot of removing, user

SniperWish
SniperWish

playing T2
Rowen conflagrations my board once
"Oh, there's no way he would have drafted two of them let alone have another one in his hand."
drop Otohime
he plays another conflagration

What the fuck.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

2PP x2 Bellringer Angel
2PP x3 Valkyrie's Spear
2PP x3 Unicorn Dancer Unica
2PP x3 Sektor
2PP x3 Hamsa
3PP x2 Goblin Mage
3PP x2 Gourmet Emperor Khaiza
3PP x2 Harnessed Flame
3PP x2 Harnessed Glass
4PP x2 Goblinbreaker Teena
4PP x2 Uriel
5PP x2 Lucius, Goblin Slayer
5PP x2 Fortunehunter Feena
5PP x2 Execution
6PP x1 Athena
7PP x2 Sahaquiel
7PP x2 Gabriel
8PP x1 Odin
8PP x1 Lucifer
8PP x1 Archangel Reina
9PP x1 Dark Angel Olivia

Pure Neutral.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I don't know what a strawman is

whereismyname
whereismyname

call of cocytus

Why? If anything going Dragon and having breath would be better.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Tempo Elf isn't really that hard to learn, its a play on curve deck with certain wombo combos in it similar to Sword honestly. Roach is about the most complicated thing and theres an infographic floating around about it

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

One step at a time user, one step at a time

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

2xSahaquiel
no fatty to pull

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I already have an Olivia and an Incandescent Dragon

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

We'll start there and see where it goes.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

RIP aria but Elana is stil lfine.

I hope this is true for those vials tho.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Playing Blood vs. Sword
Turn 5
Down to 11 health, my only option is to drop Dire Bond and hope he doesn't kill me
5 health left, not sure if he has quickblader or not
He doesn't, he drops Floral Fencer and evolves
200% Vengeance.jpg
Drop evolved RIghteous Devil and two Diabolic Drains to clear his board
Healed back up to 15
Win the game with full health

Blood is so fucking fun when it actually works

King_Martha
King_Martha

this desu

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Dont brick your board if you dont have bounce in hand
thats about it

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

themis would probably win you more games than seraph

Emberburn
Emberburn

Call you /pol/
GUYS, LEDDIT LOL, LOOK AT THAT INSTEAD
not a strawman

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Control Blood mirrors are mad fun

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

friendly reminder that female goblins are just mini elves and they absolutely hate their own males

TechHater
TechHater

I think the idea is you pull reina, then evolve her.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Nep Control

3x Soul Conversion
3x Dingdong
3x Lurching Corpse
3x Skullcradle Widow
3x Undying Resentment
3x Foul Tempest
3x Deathbrand (or Pact of the Nethergod)
3x Urd
3x Hell's Unleasher
3x Call of the Void
3x Death's Breath
3x Underworld Watchman, Khawy
2x Mordecai
2x Nephthys

King_Martha
King_Martha

2 Sahaquiels
1 Reina
?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Potential Sahaquiel synergy.

Though yeah, making slight changes depending on class would probably help significantly.

Olivia>Satan>Bahamut is an end game plan, but it's probably wise to just cut the Satan and Bahamut. Sahaquiel as well then since that removes two of the heaviest followers and Olivia and Odin should not be pulled out without fanfare.

I'd probably replace them with Angelic Barrage or Glass for earlier board clear.

RavySnake
RavySnake

What do you mean by brick?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

No Cerb?

idontknow
idontknow

What the fuck is the point of having 40 card decks when the matches are shorter than Hearthstone? Is it just to make it more random? I want to fucking hang myself every time I go an entire match without drawing any of my 6+ hard removal cards.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

How can this game ever evolve or improve? So long as they keep the way player one and player two are situated, the focus of the game is going to remain the mid turns. It will always be a midrange dominated game.

Control can never be viable again because of Dshift. A control meta is completely impossible because of that deck. And no, Elana isn't control. The variant ran right now is a midrange deck that has an alternative win condition tacked on.

Despite being able to have 10pp, it will never be relevant. 9pp is basically considered super late in this game and so there will never be relevant expensive cards again unless they are extremely broken.

Dance of Death means you'll never have a relevant big body card. People think the increase in board clears is going to do anything, but it's just going to make it more like Hearthstone.

spending all your resources trying to contest the board
the other player just keeps playing efficient board flooding cards and goes face
you never actually stabilize and are always behind in cards

It's like people have never fought Sword before. I find it hilarious people think Otohime will be weak. They are going to love you spending your whole turn to clear what is essentially one card, which they will then immediately play again or do Alwida.

And it's not like board clears are going to help you deal with evolved storm cards. Roach is still going to take out 13+ health in the midgame.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

fill it with shit
like 5 fairies

MPmaster
MPmaster

It'd screw with Top Nep, so no

takes2long
takes2long

I just wanted to let you know that I didn't read any of what you wrote but you're probably an autist

FastChef
FastChef

Illusionz
Illusionz

How can this game ever evolve or improve?

Two words, since you obviously never played a real CCG before (ie: Magic).

Ban. List.

massdebater
massdebater

Midrange is the most patrician playstyle anyway

Aggroshitters and controlcucks can go play Hearthstone

Supergrass
Supergrass

what about bone chimera? you have no turn 3 plays
also nekuroassasin

hairygrape
hairygrape

This game have better chance for sinergy because the 3 card limit for every card even for legenderies.

Is like in sv you have a 13,3 sinergy and HS 15 points for normals and lower chance for legenderies.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I wish all Arisa fags would die. So many PtP elves everywhere

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Post Dirt Rune lists and we collectively try to agree on a good RoB version of the deck.

askme
askme

user-kun! It isn't too late to grind for my emblem and sleeves! No excuses, now go hit that ranked button!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Imagine you have 2 removal cards you want to put in your deck.

You have better odds of drawing one of the 3 copies of each card (for a total of 6 cards) from your 40 card deck, than you do with the hearthstone system of 2 copies of each card (total of 4) from your 30 card deck.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

What factions are the best?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Forest and Haven

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

vampire

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Fuck off, slut.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

You have a very poor understanding of card game metas. To answer you seriously though, let me start by saying that there's one thing you need to understand, no deck should ever have perfect match ups, it's normal that decks will have disadvantageous match ups and even grossly disadvantageous match ups.

Moving on from there, there're basically two types of play that need to be balanced around, tournament play and ladder play. As long as a deck can achieve a 50% average win rate, it's a viable deck. Even as long as DShift exists, Traditional Control decks can remain viable so long as they're relevant in tournaments and ladder. In ladder, control only needs to be good enough that if it loses to DShift but beats most decks you run into, it's viable. In the standard tournament format, control decks are fine even if they lose all their DShift games if they can round out your match ups paired with your other deck enough to carry you through the series.

Similarly cards like Dance of Death don't shut down all options because they won't always be there when you play big cards. If Dance didn't exist, we might just run into the issue of fatties being too good.

People complain a lot about he balance of Shadowverse but it's actually extremely well balanced for its age, and signs point towards RoB being a fantastic expansion in regards to rounding this out. Your concerns mostly seem to be due to a lack of experience.

Soft_member
Soft_member

I just have to hit B0 to get both right?

5mileys
5mileys

sword is the most broken atm

Techpill
Techpill

I need another 2.1k to get your sleeve!

I'll have enough time I promise. R-right?

Methnerd
Methnerd

I fucking love that card in t2

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Burd faction

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Show me that you arent cancer /svg/

w8t4u
w8t4u

You can only run followers of 4 different costs if you want Nep to get Morde 100% of the time, so you'd have to remove all followers of a different cost to be able to include 3-cost followers without fucking up your wincon

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Midrange in Shadowverse IS aggro. This game is very draw dependent and player one getting one less evolve and card makes playing straight aggro way too risky.

Almost every successful midrange deck in this game is 100% aggro, with many of them being heavy token flooding decks that play cards like Wind God (or class specific buffs) as a finisher. Dance of Death is probably the most used card in the game.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

You need to get 12,000 score. And the reward score is different from your rank score in that it never goes down with losses.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I have a lot of Sword and Elf wins

Only the cutest wives for me. This is the opposite of cancer

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I want to FUCK arisaposters

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Just started playing ranked yesterday. Currently on C0 and about to switch to Storm Haven.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Turn 6 Otohime
Turn 7 Sage Commander
Turn 8 Sage Commander

likme
likme

muh wards will protect me
calamitous curse will keep me safe

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Fuck this man. Half of my 10 total T2 are 4 wins. And 4 of them have ended with me cucked out of 5th win in the last match by some bullshit that turns the tables.
I just want a 5 win run.

JunkTop
JunkTop

no deck should ever have perfect match ups

Welcome to Forestverse.

control decks can remain viable so long as they're relevant in tournaments

They aren't. They also aren't relevant on ladder. They lose to Dshift and then all the midrange decks because there is no payoff to playing control in this game.

extremely well balanced for its age

It has barely existed yet has a completely stagnant meta and only three viable classes, two of which are only seeing play because the best class is expensive and tournaments force you to use more than one class.

Your optimism sounds to me like what is due to lack of experience. Look at tournament results. Look at ladder statistics. You're clearly playing a different game.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Here you go mate.

I enjoy being teased by the way

farquit
farquit

Why Gab in control blood?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Most of those were ptp snowman and dirtrune.
tfw you gave up on dragon and bishop long ago

Playboyize
Playboyize

freshly A3
Get matched up with AA1 and AA2 decks
3 game losing streak
Out of A3 and back into A2

I hate how points work in A.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Easily

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Buff Harvest Festival, Buff Homecoming. Make ptp forest great again.

StonedTime
StonedTime

help

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

one of those piles is very good and one is mediocre

get good

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

just clear the otohime xD

Lunatick
Lunatick

That's just 21 wins, you can easily make it by playing on weekends or whatever free time you have.

Emberburn
Emberburn

What? Shouldn't you like queuing against AA rankers as an A ranker?

Higher point gain, what exactly do you hate about how points work in A rank?

whereismyname
whereismyname

being matched up with higher rank at that point is a blessing though. Nearly everyone is netdecking and most people are somewhat competent, it's a good chance for free extra points and less to lose if you lose.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

who /stuckinA/ here

Lunatick
Lunatick

This

I feel that anyone that actually wants 40 turn grind games is someone that watched too much Yu-Gi-Oh when younger.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Need a concede please 82615

Stay if you need one as well.

whereismyname
whereismyname

oh i'm cancer buddy boy

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

short haired Isabelle

MUH

likme
likme

banner to mid As. Control/aggro blood rest of the way.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I'm getting constant win streaks and blazed through mid-A0 to mid-A1, after struggling for a while at the bottom of A0.

I hope the power gap between lower A and upper A isn't massive, A0 and A1 doesn't feel like much of a difference

girlDog
girlDog

I'm just bitter and salty because I've had shit draws for the past few games.

I'm especially salty because I was within lethal for all of them and then they stalled.

AA seems to be full of Control fuckers.

Inmate
Inmate

Ladder statistics place everything very close together, there's a 6% win rate difference between the strongest and the weakest crafts. The tournament meta has only been stable in the last month of play, Blood was seeing tournament tops up until the latter half of November before people started building with it in mind and pushed it back down a tier.

I'll concede that control is poor right now, but there's no reason to think it'll always be poor. You haven't answered anything I put out, you're just representing your opinions on the topic as if they're fact. Put something forward.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It's Erika wearing Isabelle's clothing.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

W-Was this supposed to happen?

farquit
farquit

It seemed like the big power gap came in mid A for me when I blazed through it not too long ago. The good news is that, once you become accustomed to A1-A2, you pretty much have what it takes to grind masters if you have the patience.

askme
askme

D-Did I do good?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

That's just a cute Erika cosplaying as a not so cute girl

Erika is C U T E

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Easy, easy left.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Blood is mostly control and midrange

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Isabelle is cute too, no need to fight over who is cuter.
Isabelle would win though

Emberburn
Emberburn

This isn't control. I don't have razory or bloody mary.
I started off with aggro bats and needed more strength in the mid/late game to deal with all sorts of crap. I have one more vamp queen, a revelation, a wind god, and an olivia but that is all the 5+ cards I have in that deck. Dire bond x2 is for card draw against slow decks like elana and I also run blood pact x3 because aggro runs out of steam fast. I still have the dire bond because the rune player will just banish it or turn it into a clay golem which screws me over fast. I never play dire bond vs rune. It's a weird deck and it isn't even fully crafted since I'm saving for expac.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

So is Aria actually getting nerfed or is this user just rusing us?

Nojokur
Nojokur

No razory
You ok vampy? It's one of your best cards, bloody mary or not.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Anyone knows otohime bodyguard PP cost? If it's 1PP, it means everyone got a universal fish killer with Teena's brother.

Supergrass
Supergrass

shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/otohimes-bodyguard

Booteefool
Booteefool

its 1pp

Skullbone
Skullbone

He didn't take any time to cite his source or respond to others, you decide.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

It's the smell of dead fishes (and fairies) in the morning then.

eGremlin
eGremlin

eris with vampy's voice

Methnerd
Methnerd

tfw getting ranked anxiety playing in A rank

Snarelure
Snarelure

just got my second aurelia from a pack today

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Then I can keep playing Storm Haven. Good stuff.

5mileys
5mileys

Make sure to take breaks if you start sliding. Some days you will hit big win streaks. Others you will struggle to end where you started.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Need a concede if anybody is willing.

74172

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Start finally climbing up with my dragonbro
gooks with meta haven and forest decks everywhere
Fuck those shitters

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

keep getting dc bugged in t2

Playboyize
Playboyize

post the thick one

Illusionz
Illusionz

Dirtrune, Ramp with some discard memeing, Tyrant, pure Seraph.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Thank you, friendly dragoncuck.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I get anxious when I go on a winstreak thinking the next game will break it. I get anxious when I'm losing because I keep thinking of all the progress I'm losing

Nojokur
Nojokur

Does Death's Breath buff/heal/ward zombies already on the board or only the ones it makes?

likme
likme

Played 26 games tonight
Went first 21 times

Anyone wanna do a number crunch on that?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

stop playing sword

cum2soon
cum2soon

It's a simple binomial, there are calculators on the internet.

Emberburn
Emberburn

All zombies, including ones from previous Death's Breaths. It doesn't matter too much though, since 99% of the time any zombies from before Death's Breath will be slaughtered anyway.

Spamalot
Spamalot

All zombies on the board.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

good curve
fuck elana

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

why is this thread so dead

Do you evolve by dragging the orb to the follower or clicking on the follower and then on the evolve option?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Charon in a santa costume

w8t4u
w8t4u

power drag the orb to the follower

iluvmen
iluvmen

It creates 3 and the necromancy buffs all ally zombies. Using it again with enough shadows would make the surviving 2/3 zombies become 2/4 with ward. Would be incredible if shadowcraft had some kind of zombie generator but Luna can't have nice things

TechHater
TechHater

Cerberus in a reindeer costume

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I click on them to evolve.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Jannu gets the special legendary art
When her main effect has basically been given to every class on cheaper cards, Control Haven will still be non-competitive and their new legendary is meme Skullfane 2.0

I guess the silver lining is that I get to feel like a special snowflake when I run my Guardian Sun deck with her as a one of.

happy_sad
happy_sad

just realized how much more packs i need to open just to finish decks
should i drop money on this game
with exp there gonna be even more cards that i don't own

Methshot
Methshot

Click and drag > click twice

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

heh

girlDog
girlDog

I just right-click them

5mileys
5mileys

researcher of taboos
rune

And I'm still salty, especially now that all Luna craft cards have been revealed.

Inmate
Inmate

dragging like a real man

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Control blood

Should i replace the night hordes for diabolic drain?

Also, alucard saved my ass multiple times but im not sure how effective he really is in a control deck

dont tell me about getting another night queen, i already know that

w8t4u
w8t4u

I want to die.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

How do you think dragon feels?

At least you can pretend there is another benefit with the +0/+2

Snarelure
Snarelure

precious bloodfangs will still do 5 dmg if 5 bats dont go on the field?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Edit: im retarded, its vampire queen, not night queen

Booteefool
Booteefool

POST THE DICK

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Look at that smug smirk on her face.

idontknow
idontknow

Yes

Spamalot
Spamalot

Otohime is my queen. I want to be sexually taken advantaged of!

hairygrape
hairygrape

2 alucards are enough
get another revelation
put 3 night hordes, that card is good value cos it can remove while giving you board control.
replace execution with diabloic bond

TechHater
TechHater

I only need to craft 1 Urd and 3 garuda for a Storm Haven.

Do I go for it? Do we know if RoB will nerf old cards like Garuda?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Will you be faithful to your queen when the new expansion hits and every other card boardwipes her?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Fafnir is a huge fatty which is probably more useful than the 0-2 half the time.

Besides, Dragon's special lego will 100% be Forte, the Atlas holding up her class (unless Discard actually pans out).

idontknow
idontknow

Should I save up for the expansion or nah?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

It's not like you'll lose dust if a card you craft gets nerfed.

Urd's a good investment as an incredibly useful neutral that fits well with multiple decks.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

it's too late

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I don't think Garuda will be nerfed honestly. Most of the shitters have gotten over him. He generated maximum salt maybe a month ago though.

5mileys
5mileys

i have execution to remove amulets, mostly banner meme and elana, since when i remove it, they just panic until they draw another one

Playboyize
Playboyize

BMing in unranked matches

whats the point?

Techpill
Techpill

I'll put my third copy of her in my deck for more instant boards and have her sit on my face with her tight fish butt

StonedTime
StonedTime

Sorry, we're already married.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I've saved up 2k, but yeah I guess that's not enough?

TreeEater
TreeEater

reminder that your otohime is a used goods slut who has already given birth (as a crocodile, no less)

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Queued into nothing but bad matchups for the past 2 hours

Lunatick
Lunatick

A huge fatty is never useful.
All it does is get removed for a tempo loss.

TreeEater
TreeEater

whatever works for you. But honestly it really isn't worth spending a turn doing nothing and letting them get even more board control

Emberfire
Emberfire

160 cards, you probably won't even get all the silvers

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Forte and Cerberus aren't the alternate art legendaries for the crystal packs
What would your reaction be? They already missed an opportunity with moon bunny, anything's possible.

iluvmen
iluvmen

I forgot to mention i have 5k crystals though

Emberburn
Emberburn

Play pic related
Go first every time
10 game win streak
You just need to pick the best deck you can get.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

there's no FUCKING way they aren't, but if they aren't, then I won't buy them.
Not like I was going to buy dragon pack anyways

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

It would save me money so I'd be fine with it.

I'm already somewhat into the clear due to not really liking Ancient Elf's new art either and already having 3 of her.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Opponent wipes on 6 to stop your developed board
Play Otohime
They wipe against on 7
Play Otohime
They wipe again on 8
Play Otohime
I really don't see the issue.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Then they drop seraph

idontknow
idontknow

Implying you'll always have three copies

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Jeanne's more popular than Moon Bunny despite being shit. Though, I guess Ancient Elf over Rose Queen means waifu power isn't necessarily how they pick.

I'd be pretty shocked of Forte and Cerberus weren't the alt arts, but I might still buy Shadow if they've got a really cool Atomy or something.

WebTool
WebTool

can't do missions because my decks are too bad

Thanks Cygames, glad to know the greatest factor in my success is skill :^).

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

from time to time i have seen that someone post a wolf or fox girl i not sure showing her modesty everywhere who's is that girl? looks like yuel or fenrir but i not sure

happy_sad
happy_sad

With the Midrange Sword vs Forestcraft match up, should I be religiously clearing their board to prevent Ancient Elf shenanigans? Like sending 2/1s to clear fairies in the early-mid game

TechHater
TechHater

Pretty much this, Otomeme is as much an answer to board clears as board clears are to Otomeme. I can't think of any 6+ cost cards off the top of my head that re-establish board better than Otomeme.

FastChef
FastChef

alt art for blood is soul dealer

How do this make you feel?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Jeanne's more popular than Moon Bunny despite being shit
Not in shadowverse. Stop talking shit 16yo jeanushit

King_Martha
King_Martha

new art is LoTF
uses the girl concept instead of the current demon
you buy it anyway

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I always killed everything except the cards that give them more fairies.

FastChef
FastChef

Soul dealer is my husbando even though his card is shit.

askme
askme

""""Pious"""" Fox?

idontknow
idontknow

If you suspect a seraph deck you should be storming his health down to the danger zone turns 5-7, not boarding up. Albert will be tag teaming this with Alwida soon.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Jeanne is chosen probably because she played a role in that anime series, so it won't surprise me if Cereberus and Azazel will show up.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

no its a lewd fan art her tail was blue i think

Flameblow
Flameblow

I kill everything they play until mid-late game, that's when you start to punch Arisa in the face

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

For the most part yes, I would not do terribly lopsided trades like 2/1 into a fairy in most circumstances though. If he doesn't have the elf, you're just saving him 2 face damage there. Look at your hand and see what kind of answers you have for different sizes of elf in turns 3-5 and plan accordingly.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Jeanne's probably more popular than Moon Bunny even in Shadowverse. Japs are always trying to find excuses to run her even though she's shit and most of the fanbase over there is probably coming over from RoB and Granblue.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

only one themis
Nani?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

turn 16
only 26 shadows

I don't get it. I thought earth rite was supposed to naturally generate a metric fuckton of shadows just by playing normally.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I only have one Themis and one Moon Bunny. That's been more than enough though, at least at my rank.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Alexander is the sword alt art instead of the midrange females.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

10 draws above 5
3 of them in my top 5 cards post mulligan
great

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Just keep a plan for their biggest elf and kill if you can't handle it. Also tech more Barrage in if your forest matchup is still troublesome. Sword has their best counters though.

Vanguard, one of the earliest wards, White Paladin, Floral Fencer versus Princess Mage is a large tempo loss if they save the fairies, Aurelia punishes large boards, Tsubaki punishes Eve, Elf, and the rare Master of the Canopies.

Unless you're being extremely aggressive, an early Ancient Elf isn't a death sentence. Just don't be stupid and play into an obvious worst case scenario.

MPmaster
MPmaster

play deck
get matched against your counter right away
how do we fix this?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Storm doesn't really need 3 themis, it's just a backup scenario. Two is the reasonable maximum.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I find the first part hard to believe. But if the problem are the crossovers its kinda away from the point.

Evilember
Evilember

Shadow is the only class with a whole set
ghostly grasp, shadow reaper, zombie pirate and feathered patrolled
no generator

It's Luna's losses again, /svg/?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

The algorithm matches your deck against its counters when you're on a win streak

farquit
farquit

If you curve well, you end up with a bigger board faster unless you're playing against Sword generally.

Cudgel and Sledgehammer if you tech her reverse the situation on turns 4+ extremely fast as that's when your early amulets start popping.

It's only when you draw bad when Themis is needed. And if you've drawn badly you're likely to lose even with the Themis unless you've still got amulets cooking.

FastChef
FastChef

Post your woes about this game's cancer on /svg/ of course!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

You have to outsmart the developers. For example, if you're playing an aggro deck you name it "Control X".

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Plack deck without counters, you cuck.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Taking bets on how this one turns out.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I really want to look into running Feathered in my midrange deck, but that necromancy cost is way too high for a card that has to compete with Soldier and Rabbit for 3-drop follower, and Foul Tempest/Deathbrand for 3-drop removal.

Any ideas where she could be used properly?

Lunatick
Lunatick

cucked by sword

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Haha, time to go first against sword.

likme
likme

Well I'm against sword, but I'm going 2nd.

Evilember
Evilember

KEK

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Opponent 5 will hear the dragon's roar, memecraft man.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR

He conceded right away

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

git good

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

post that luna pic
you know. that one

eGremlin
eGremlin

Need a concede for my daily please.

98943

viagrandad
viagrandad

I want to believe

askme
askme

You don't have to trust my word, just go back and look at older deck lists. Jeanne was the Haven legend to run before DE, and after DE people tried to force her on lists before dropping her to 1 and then 0.

Writing it off as a "crossover" is technically true but kind of misleading anyways, Shadowverse was sold as the Rage of Bahamut TCG in the first place and practically all of the oldest fanbase is holdovers from other CyGames properties. She's without a doubt the most popular character in Haven.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Can anyone explain me why everyone in here hates Gamepress per reflex?

I mean, it usually does not even seem to matter what the actual information is, or how many sources there is, and if the information is cross-referential correct.

You guys hate it anyway.

Why? Where did you get the PTSD?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Uh oh

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

thanks my dragon bro. May your dragons roar strike fear into the heart of your foes!

Methshot
Methshot

Emote spamming forestfag
WHOAH WHOAH (gasp) TIME FOR TARGET PRACTICE HI THERE HI THERE
Combos with Rhinoroach to drop me to 12, then drops Ancient Elf, a fairy and Liza thinking I give a shit
Combo into DShift
He DCs while I barrage him with BM

Cathartic

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Sword second

RumChicken
RumChicken

Censored game
Dshitter
Fuck off.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Is right better here?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

(Gasp)

Soft_member
Soft_member

I don't hate it, it's just a vocal minority that likes to meme.

happy_sad
happy_sad

banning standard cards

Bidwell
Bidwell

7 shitty cards that in no way will save my ass
opponent going strong but ran out of cards
conceded

Y-yeah that's right bitch, better to run away

likme
likme

T2. She suffers the same problem with Apprentice Necromancer.

If she was a 2/3 ward, she would have a niche use. We really have no use for a Lizard man.

Firespawn
Firespawn

counting to 18
s-skill!!!

RavySnake
RavySnake

y u mad tho :^)

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

t. dshitter

SniperWish
SniperWish

Right

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

forest will always have the strongest bm game

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

The same could be said for any deck

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Reach AA3
Lose 1k points in 13 games

Nice game shadowbabs

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

gotchu senpai

takes2long
takes2long

MODS MODS MODS

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Why in the world did this shitter get confident against obvious Dshift turn 10+

eGremlin
eGremlin

low res version

Nojokur
Nojokur

Banner can net you wins pretty much in any rank since it's essentially a hard counter to DShift Rune, as well as most Haven decks if you don't brick.

But I'm pretty sure that Midrange Sword is pretty much Banner but better

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

ごめんね

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

You're misleading people right now. It depends of whatever lego people pull at first, be it either Jeanne or Bunny. Jeanne is worldwide popular, a knight that anyone would be more than happy to see getting in the field just because of the natural impact it causes, which's beside the point.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

The only thing I can think of doing with this guy is generating a handful of shadows off of Playful Necromancer/Dark Conjurer/Howl

Why did shadow only get memes this xpac

Emberfire
Emberfire

He dropped ancient elf and Liza, returning a rhinoceroach. He was going to swing for lethal next turn. The Liza and Elf was insurance, protection from any removal, and the only way he could ever lose is by pulling off the combo, which is a fair assumption, not all the time can DShift do anything against that boardstate, and the deck is clunky as fuck.

TechHater
TechHater

if you don't win as first player before they use their final evo point is there any point in continuing the game

RavySnake
RavySnake

stories

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

You know liza protection doesnt even really help. Spell like dance of death or fiery embrace can still kill the ancient elf with liza effect.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Lost 3000 score in one day

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Shadow received plenty of goodies this xpac, if anything Sexton is kind of overrated. Lurching Corpse and Necroassassin are better.

5mileys
5mileys

I think he'll be just fine in Aggro Shadow as a way to guarantee your Last Words go off to keep your curve sticky and irritating against Haven.

RavySnake
RavySnake

if you're an aggro deck with reach options in your deck - sure

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

DShift doesn't run DoD. Fiery Embrace is usually a 1-of so the chances were very slim. Most of DShift's removal are damage based anyway

takes2long
takes2long

same

likme
likme

But they're shit stories.

People give Beelzebub shit for being similar to Animal Companion from HS, but he had some consistency since you were guaranteed the 4/4 body of the card itself, and most of his power comes not from whichever bug drops with him, but from the threat he presents to your opponent: let him live and he'll keep shitting out free followers every turn. The best part of LotF is that he throws your opponent's turn 7/8 into disarray since they have to try and address the big fucking fly sitting on the board

King_Martha
King_Martha

meant for

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Almost all the good cards shadow got were in support of the Neptits last words meme, which doesn't appeal to be at all.

All the actual Necromancy cards we got blow chunks

dude Necro 4: deal 2 damage
dude Necro 2: last words up a 2/2
DUDE NECRO 8: Dance of Death/Deathbrand

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

yeah but what happens when they kill him

his affect doesn't linger, does it?

Playboyize
Playboyize

appeal to me

Sorry, too much writing over finals week

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

What deck did you play that tanked so hard, and what rank?

Spamalot
Spamalot

It does sit on everything that's already on board, however much that's worth to you.

girlDog
girlDog

the effect most likely stays on followers which were played on the turn he was on board as a permanent buff like cynthia, banner, etc.

idontknow
idontknow

No, some support atomeme.

Also some of the cards like Khawy are just flat out good. He has all of LotF's functions rolled into one, so no RNG shenanigans.

The xpac was pushing LW, but that doesn't mean they can't be effective in non-neptits decks.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

In take 2
Have the opponent down to 4-1 health
They always manage to topdeck the perfect card and I lose anyway

Skullbone
Skullbone

wuts enhance

RumChicken
RumChicken

Just hit AA0 nd I feel like having fun for a while. Should I make Memely Tyrant now or should I wait later y/n

JunkTop
JunkTop

I personally think Sexton is underrated, same as the 3pp summon two ghosts spell.

Most I see people talking about is Balor, Neptits and Necroasssassin.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Kicker from MtG

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Cards from every set of Magic have been banned or restricted due to overpowered shit.

Being the "standard" or "base" set doesn't mean shit. However, this being a computer game means they can, rather than just flat out ban shit, just increase or reduce the numbers. You can't do that with a printed game.

Some cards though, probably should be restricted or banned. Or just eratta'd to not be too strong. Shit, D-shift should probably be flat out eratta'd to not allow multiple castings, and Elana's should just max out at a single +1/+1 bonus and have it's cost raised to 4.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I don't hate them but I also do not agree with the way "they" filter the winratio on masters.
Despite all data being manually reported they hold water, as they should, however I can speak from experience that low masters is a fucking cess poll and I'd rather only take into account people that made out of the lower 50% of players there, but we can't have that.
Dshift is the prime exemple of this for me
almost every high master player spams it
clearly a consistent deck for those who can pilot it
yet it has less than 50% winratio on masters due to the aforementioned cess poll

I think their meta reports are pretty good up to AA but it lacks a lot of credibility on masters if you intend to climb.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

3pp ghosts is only for a dedicated Atomeme deck. Which will still be a meme deck, but whatever.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Yeah Sexton is great to have against haven. If Sexton can trigger last words on followers who get banished, can you imagine them using baldy on lurching corpse and the last words targeting him before he could attack?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

He has all of LotF's functions rolled into one,

Which, I suppose, is why I have trouble valuing him highly. To risk sounding like a skipping record, LotF's best point of appeal is that he creates two bodies instead of one. Take the storm beetle for example, which I consider to be the weaker of the three:

7 mana spent two followers, a 4/4 and a 2/3 with Storm and Drain

Even the bane bug or the scorpion yield similar results; I guess I just prefer the sticking power of the two bodies over just one, since removal is typically either strong or multi-target, with only a handful of exceptions

Khawy's nature as a LW is also a risk, since that means he has no immediate impact on the board without something like Urd/Nep/etc. popping him during your turn.

RumChicken
RumChicken

A3
I played Midrange Sword, Dshift, and Aggro Blood
There's nothing wrong with the decks themself, I just had an extremely unlucky day
I'm talking like, queuing into every bad matchup while my opponent gets a perfect curve, and I brick game after game

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Not allow multiple castings in a row, I mean. ie: No taking more than 1 additional turn before having to give your opponent a turn.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Then post the high rez version you twat.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Bloodcraft vengeance starts at 12

Supergrass
Supergrass

Preparing 9 Shadow decklists for RoB
Pretty sure Traditional Aggro will be best again though.

Playboyize
Playboyize

As a Control Blood player, no. Too strong.

Techpill
Techpill

Lurching Corpse is super value and is a card that the enemy doesn't want to kill but can't be ignored. Necroassassin was what I wanted most, that is another high value 4 drop. It generates shadows and makes Last Words matter and it shits on cards like Ancient Elf on top of being able to beat down other 4 drops after an evolve. This is a very good card that will really wreck midgame for Shadow.

Sexton is not bad but he is most relevant in a specific matchup and his usefulness will wax and wane with the meta.

hairygrape
hairygrape

topdecking Odin to save my ass against Dirt PtP that couldn't manage to draw another one before I stabilized and won

Holy fuck, that was retarded lucky.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Turn 6 PtP
I guess I should have killed him faster :>

Firespawn
Firespawn

Shadow got 3pp unleasher tho.

Supergrass
Supergrass

CCS Midrange probably with these changes.

-2 Spartoi Sergeant +2 Ghosthound Sexton
-2 Dark Conjurer +2 Lurching Corpse
-2 Deathchaser +2 FoD
-2 Unleasher +2 Lucius
-2 Charon +2 Fortunehunter Feena

FastChef
FastChef

Stop whining, Forest is fine, Sword is worse

WebTool
WebTool

We don't need a banlist. We need a limit per card, this is the obvious straightforward fix whom I believe people were trying to avoid saying for too long.

Inmate
Inmate

Wow, my board is tanking fast, I wonder if I can chain my altered fates without mucking my ptp pulls. Let's find out together.

SniperGod
SniperGod

sword mirror
winning the value game
opponent plays White Paladin
instantly win
outskilled :^)

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Lucius is 5pp, so we'd be running 7 total on a list like that. Might be a bit much. Feena definitely feels like an upgrade over Charon here though, a real shame since I like Charon but the lack of new Shadow generation and Shadow's excellent 2pp line-up makes it seem like an obvious change.

Back to Lucius though, I don't know if he's worth running in Shadow. Shadow already has a great game against wide strats.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Just need to nerf Dshift so control can actually have a breathing chance in this game

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

We need a limit per card

So you want a restricted list?

Like Magic? And every other successful CCG?

tl;dr These terms exist for a reason.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Control sword runs a few cards that shits on mid range. I don't see the problem.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

since you asked so nicely

How cant you ignore it?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Lucius is a card that singlehandedly beats Otomeme and fairies spam. I've played games where I cleared the board with a powered tempest only for them to play another Otomeme. Not a fun experience, mind you.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Like magic, yugioh's limited list and so. yes.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Just give control players tools to fight against it, DShift is incredibly lackluster as it is. You're worst off fighting PtP Rune once DShift gets nerfed and everyone and their mother migrates to PtP

Playboyize
Playboyize

I like you for posting it.

massdebater
massdebater

The last poll: Which leader would it be the most fun to cheat on?
40 votes
30% Isabelle
28% Eris
15% Erika
10% Arisa
10% Forte
5% Vania
3% Luna

New poll
strawpoll.me/11916296

massdebater
massdebater

opponent plays cards

cum2soon
cum2soon

Turn 1 pass

WebTool
WebTool

Dragon is bad

Illusionz
Illusionz

LotF has better highrolls and is better for fucking up their tempo on turns 7-8.

But Khawy has one big advantage: Due to 4/5 statline, he's almost guaranteed to eat at least one fatty. Unless they use Odin on him, which requires you to be second AND them to have Odin, it is very unlikely that the opponent will be able to banish Khawy. Thus for the most part, it is very hard to effectively deal with him, because you cannot normally remove him without taking a huge loss. And you can't hit face with most followers without losing your biggest dude.
This makes him an amazing comeback follower, especially when he will almost certainly be healing for 4+ hp.
He's a reactive play (unless you're ahead, in which placing him is just salt in the wound) but that LW is not really something you can really play around without Odin or Petrify, it's a big ole "eat shit".

LotF is great and proactive, and can easily snowball into a giant win.
But he doesn't have the consistency that Khawy provides against bigger threats.
Like say there's a big old AE on the board and you play Khawy. Like 6/7 or some shit. Khawy is basically guaranteed to eat that shit and heal you for 6, hopefully putting you out of the range of angry roach noises. LotF can kill it with Bane bug, block a hit and hope they don't have any other answers with ward bug, or just kind of get fucked with drain bug. 2/3 pulls are still good-decent with one bad. Yeah this is a skewed example, but still.

I think Khawy's gonna be better against decks that like to make big guys, while LotF is better against board flood. As they use removal against khawi on a zoo board and he eats like a 3/2 or a 2/2 and you get fucked. LotF puts out a ward bug or a drain or whatever, you eat the same follower, heal the same amount, but still have a 4/4 on the board. If you get the ward bug, they're basically fucked.

So I guess they're both good, but in different ways.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Because it's something that will peck away at you forever so it can put you in kill range of Phantom Howl., and its a prime buff target as well. Eventually it can evolve and get jacked up with Coco/Keen Enchantment and that's not something to turn a blind eye too.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Post your deck screen

Snarelure
Snarelure

DUDE
WHAT IF WE MADE A CLASS
WITH INFINITE HEALS AND CARD DRAWS ON THE SAME CARDS
AND THE BEST BUFF IN THE GAME
THAT BUFFS ALL OF ITS MINIONS BY 1/1 FOR EACH HEAL
AND MADE IT COST 3 MANA
AND ALSO GAVE THAT CLASS THE BEST REMOVAL IN THE GAME
AND
AND
AND WE GAVE THEM EXODIA
HAHA EPIK
EPICK
FOR
THE
WIN

Emberburn
Emberburn

Alternatively, Lucius can be replaced with Teena instead for a 4PP. I'd wager there will be a lot of Feena in the meta, so that 5 damage will be relevant enough.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I really, really like Khawy.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

tfw you will never roleplay as dragons in the bedroom with Forte

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I don't know how to go face

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Finally decide to take Moon out of my deck since she's a dead card
Open my daily pack
Animated Moon Al' Miraj

MPmaster
MPmaster

nice shoop

Spamalot
Spamalot

Play control sword and dshift and stop crying, bitch nigga

hairygrape
hairygrape

I'm not creative.

Techpill
Techpill

it is very unlikely that the opponent will be able to banish Khawy
That's if you don't play Sexton on him. If you do, the only things stopping you are Petrification (with no earth rite) and Draconification.

Methshot
Methshot

see
You're late buddy.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Personally my #1 reason for preferring Khawy is just that I can't trust my luck pulling decent shit.

My #2 reason is the chance of walling a DShift finish.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

go face
heals it all for only a few mana while drawing 5 cards and buffing their minions by 5/5
outskilled
j-just play control sword the most expensive deck in the game

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Decks, not ranked wins you baka

Booteefool
Booteefool

I only play one of these anyways. Maybe that'll change with Veight's release.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

You make a solid case for Khawy. Thank god he's silver, so I can eat least craft him to try subbing him in for LotF.

I think the issue is that I'm not running Mordecai in my list, although I've been thinking about trying to slot him in somewhere.

So I'm pretty reliant on using a Cerberus or two to kill from hand as my wincon, so the snowbally-ness of LotF that you mentioned works better for me.

I think you're right, and that Khawy is a really good defensive turn-7, especially against something like blood that'll run you down pretty quickly otherwise. You just need to have something which comes after him to sweep the game.

Techpill
Techpill

You are allowed only 1 copy of Mordecai, Ancient Elf, Seraph, 2 copies of Themis _____

TreeEater
TreeEater

Control Sword
heh...my prayers are victory...kid..........

Methnerd
Methnerd

ramp is a man's soul

eheheehehe

Flameblow
Flameblow

Who is running Aggro Forest here? How is the deck?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

wants to beat haven
doesn't want to construct control sword
freedom aint free
also
healing and buffing
by sacrificing board space and playing understatted followers while your shitters can keep going face
call me when haven gets healing wards

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Yeah, if that strategy didn't work, you did get outskilled. Why would you attack into minions that are buffed for free and can be easily replenished? They will inevitably get board control with that deck, the only reliable way to win is to go face.

Inmate
Inmate

I've faced it some. Annoying when they get early May/AE draws, that's for damn sure.

whereismyname
whereismyname

People calling midrange sword "control sword"

why?

Booteefool
Booteefool

I'm in the mood for some meme decks, someone post the no follower ptp blood one

takes2long
takes2long

Shadow deck
I don't appreciate this slander towards my wife

Playboyize
Playboyize

survive 6 turns of apocalypse cards
while healing back to full and establishing board presence
still evo to spare
there's noone else I'd rather lose to.jpg

I didn't want to bully you Rowen ;_;

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Go face and ignore minions
All damage gets healed up and you're staring down several 8/8s
If you somehow do pressure them enough, they have three Themis
And an instant win on turn 8
I don't understand

Emberfire
Emberfire

I'm fucking retarded and linked the wrong post. Here's the one I was looking for

SniperGod
SniperGod

Because then she just instagibs me next turn with her 8/8 tigers

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I marked her with haven sleeves
Your wife/daughter is officially my bitch

FastChef
FastChef

Forte is not satisfied unless you fuck her like a dragon.

FastChef
FastChef

show your atomeme deck

likme
likme

Shut the FUCK up

SniperWish
SniperWish

That's cute

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

How the fuck do you stop an opponent with 3 turns and 2-3 7/7's

you dont

RumChicken
RumChicken

Fen sprite is a slut

Illusionz
Illusionz

Themis is really the only bad thing. Though I played against this deck with midrange sword, so I had an easy time replenishing the board if they did Themis me, and could reliably get in enough damage before they get too many Themis.

That's because you didn't force her to use those tigers killing your cards, or they got lucky with Themis.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

implying I care about Eris

Skullbone
Skullbone

spread the memes

Illusionz
Illusionz

lol just outplay them dude

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Kill them faster
Or hand destruction

Lunatick
Lunatick

It's funny because most of the people that I duel against that save up their evos are haven players, for some reason.

happy_sad
happy_sad

deathly AND atomeme
You madman

takes2long
takes2long

5pp Amulet

Each player may only play 1 spell or follower per turn.

Apply pressure as needed since they can't spellboost their way to a quick turn 8-DShift

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

don't split bodies
I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS/Acolytes Light :^)
split bodies
Themis :^)
stall game out
Elana :^)

Nojokur
Nojokur

I think it really matters what sort of shadow you want to run.
I don't think I'd run him without either neptits or mordecai. He's such a defensive late game play that exists to either try and cause such a tempo loss for your opponent that you can safely drop your bomb next turn, be it neptits or mordecai, or what have you. A big play that will win you the game, but may or may not have an immediate effect when you play it.

LotF is much better for being aggressive as you get the multiple bodies and most likely a storm or rush for free.
I don't think I'd play Khawy and Cerberus in the same deck. God that sounds bad, like saying I wouldn't put Forte in a dragon deck. But he's such a defensive card that you're almost certainly going to be a grinder deck of a sort, and she's actually not the best at that.

I'd put her in every single other shadow deck, and always with LotF.

I think it just matters, at least from a theorycrafting standpoint whether you wanna be more defensive or aggressive with your slower shadow decks.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

when i'll pull my third atomeme, sure

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I kind of feel this is a case of you not having enough experience fighting them, because Elana/Seraph is probably Midsword's worst matchup

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

What point are you trying to make exactly? I already told you the way to win is to race and hope they don't have every Themis, which is a reliable way to win. Spamming :^) isn't an argument.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Dshift opponent plays 2-3 Levis on evolves.
Goodbye, my board, hello defeat.

5mileys
5mileys

ironically its the best wincon atomeme has, altered fate when youre running out of cards into tyrant has won me a lot more games than early atomy.

The opponent lets their guard down about your shadows when they think your whole deck is just focused on summong atomy.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

need a concede please

84985

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

How much success has this deck seen in your rank?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

what rank are you? I ask only because I am trying to mess with the idea of a meme deck when RoB hits and I'm curious how this fares at your rank.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

this is supposed to be a fast paced CCG

if you want drawn out games play MtG

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

CUTE
U
T
E

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

there is a lack of erika lewds

Techpill
Techpill

Tumblr tier polls.

Flameblow
Flameblow

So, you're the idiot i just encountered?

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'm AA0 I'd say it nets me about a rough 50% win rate when I use it for my dailies which I also do in Ranked.

This list was originally compiled and put online by a master ranked player so I didn't craft this myself.
It's easily my favorite shadow deck to play though.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Nope I've been in arena friendo

DeathDog
DeathDog

Help me user-san
58380

eGremlin
eGremlin

feel like i've been losing and struggling for a while
on a 6 game win streak
I don't get it.
I should have lost most of those game.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Would you play Craig and Clark on curve without spellboosting anything? Especially if your opponent has 1 and 2 drop on board.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Is it worth going into A rank as a daily mission shitter that only has aggro decks? Don't want to get assraped when RoB hits.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

2/2 and 2/3 on curve
at all bad

Pretty shitt not getting any value out of the spellboosts but it's not really that bad.

Booteefool
Booteefool

no
A is hell

RavySnake
RavySnake

18035
Need some help

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I love you dork dragon user

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Cool. Well if you see a sandbagging Vampy it's probably me.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

'
dude...

MPmaster
MPmaster

Low A is a cesspool of people have lost the will to ladder.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

tech angelic barrage for elves and prey on dshitters
easy wins

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Well, I could give up the board and eat a ton of face.

Or I could put shit on the board and for it in a flood-based aggro deck.
I think I'd do the thing that would allow me to still win.

viagrandad
viagrandad

thank you

iluvmen
iluvmen

depends on what you're playing against

most decks probably yes, their stats are fine for on curve

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Any madmen here gotten the 5 packs? Feeling like I can push for it this month.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Easiest choice of my life. Time to play constructed.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Please help 41204

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Im in the same score as you

i dont see posible to reach the 5 packs unless you live playing or you literally win 100%

Emberburn
Emberburn

Yes... YES!

5mileys
5mileys

her face looks like a love live character, gross

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

fucking sandbaggers

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Dullahan
No!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

t. Gay

idontknow
idontknow

Thank you!

hairygrape
hairygrape

First loss with Storm Haven is against an Aggro Bat Vampy with perfect opener while I got jack shit
Serves me right for going on an 11 game winstreak.

Playboyize
Playboyize

aggroblood tries to stop your dshift funtime
hit vampy in the face with levi's balls

Emberburn
Emberburn

Masters, climbed from AA this month, now going for the animated Olivia

Illusionz
Illusionz

welcome to luckcards

SniperGod
SniperGod

It's T2, didn't have much of a choice.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Were you using a deviant heart flair?
Some storm havencraft just conceded to me turn 4 when i got them down to 6 hp with bats just a few minutes ago.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Open wide

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Nah, I never concede.

Evilember
Evilember

ah just thought it could be cause you literally posted this a minute after I won that match

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

sauce pls

Lunatick
Lunatick

wow, this is some /b/ tier cringe
it feels refreshing to know that someone has worse naming sense than me

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

5 game losing streak

Kill me.

girlDog
girlDog

thanks

idontknow
idontknow

how do you get animated olivia?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

It is so satisfying to beat a dshift rune by playing 4 cards in total as vampy
I need to fap now

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Top 1000 in master. 3 Olivia if you are in top 100

Lunatick
Lunatick

pixiv artist has it censored with the quickbladers (as far as I can tell)

pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58534440

1 Olivia and 2500 gold if you place top 1000 masters this month.
3 Olivia and more gold if you get top 100.

Emberfire
Emberfire

damn time to get into masters then

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

make a good T2 sword deck, totally going to go 5-0 with it
get slaughtered 3 games out of 5

The worst part was when i got elf to 2hp with otohime + sage but he nature guidanced a fairy, topdecked forest archelon and burned me from 20 hp.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Fuck elves

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

think i could hit that with banner?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Click on the image to see the 2nd one.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

post your best tyrant atomeme deck right now

Emberfire
Emberfire

use iqdb

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

It's the first time they have given masters rewards, remains to be seen if this is a monthly thing or an occasional bone they'll throw us.

likme
likme

some guy posted one that was created by a masters player a bit ago.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Is there any way I can improve my bat deck? It feels so inconsistent

SniperWish
SniperWish

I know you can get to masters with banner, I dunno if the Masters climb would be much different for you, I'm 6k up and it all starts to feel samey from mid A onward and up to where I am. There's a lot of Dshift about in Masters and you should wreck that.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Bat's are inconsistent.
Your tech options are pretty much just medusa's gaze to break through saber and dark general for more storm lategame.

I'd replace one horde with one demonic strike. I don't really like horde.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I always lose to Ramp Dragon. I've got a pretty good understanding of most match ups but Ramp Dragon constantly kicks my ass and I can't seem to figure out what I'm supposed to do against it. Please send help.

TreeEater
TreeEater

i really want to play a dragon deck that wins by doing efficient trades to gain control of the board. but none of the decks in shadowverse do that. everything's so gimmicky, "wincon" really isn't a meme because you can't just win by playing guys unless they're all one and two drops and you go face all the time

Evilember
Evilember

Not really unless you want to change it up. Maybe take out some stuff for Dark General or something.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Night Horde is kind of shitty, replace 1 for another demonic strike. Some people tech blood pact for digging, others tech dark general for certain matchups where you have to race.

massdebater
massdebater

Currently for blood there isn't any decent 4 drops, horde is alright until the next expansion.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

When they think they're safe behind their wards.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

ask this guy

Illusionz
Illusionz

play floral fencer on turn 4 going 2nd
opponent concedes

Soft_member
Soft_member

If I say have two Vanias and no fortress or bat cards, then would playing both and evolving one for the 2 face damage be worthwhile?

I feel like half the time I win by just drawing lots of Blood Wolves early

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

rank?

Evilember
Evilember

Don't waste your hard removals on stupid shit. If you run wards, know the timing on when to drop him. Apply pressure early, but don't let Aiela make favorable trades all day. Be mindful of Siegfried and don't take bait trades that set him up if you can help it. If he gets to late game, 2 damage to field is probably going to happen, try not to let him manipulate your health pools to clean your field out if possible.

What craft are you? There's more but it depends what you play.

Methnerd
Methnerd

5 dshitters in a row
five
FIVE

that's it I'm playing banner for the rest of the day

I don't care even if I tank back to AA2, you motherfuckers are not getting any more points from me

Booteefool
Booteefool

Night Horde is kind of shitty
It's a massive tempo card for an aggro deck, that is the complete opposite of shitty.

Booteefool
Booteefool

play a real deck then

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

What if Rose Gardener summon Elf Girl Liza and Elf Child May with fanfare effects when evolved?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

i see so many people play urd without using it to maximum effectiveness. it makes me want to run it just because if they're running it and using it badly, i'm sure i could use it better

viagrandad
viagrandad

It only gets worse in Masters.

idontknow
idontknow

A3 about to enter promotions. My overall win rate is generally pretty good but I can't handle Dragon for shit.

I play everything except Rune and Dragon with some frequency. I had a launch account because I came from Granblue Fantasy but I didn't play it seriously until Steam, so I basically started with a huge collection.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

t.forerst/havenfag

eGremlin
eGremlin

Don't kill Aiela if it'll give them 6PP because it's usually not worth it and it's probably better to take the 2-4 damage. At 6PP is when they can start playing Wyvern Cavalier, which can let them play Fafnir the next turn, or make Genesis Dragon or Forte/Urd possible on turn 8. If they use Urd on her then you'll just have to take it though, unless you read that and kill Aiela anyway. You need wards too because it's the only way to stop all the storm.

I had this happen a couple of days ago and did the same thing. Once I switched to banner I just ran into a bunch of midrange sword though.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

play elf against dshitters
always a stressful race against time to roach them down
try dshift myself
comfy solitare
i can see why people enjoy this shit

MPmaster
MPmaster

Using it on storm units is okay.

Are you talking about using her on skullcradle widows for the draw? I do that sometimes.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Good fucking luck, the competition have increased two-three folds already, and its not even the final week.

The amount of time you would need for the good rewards are many times better spent on doing something else.

iluvmen
iluvmen

can you gimme their decks? what cards do they run

StonedTime
StonedTime

Run 3 urds and 3 mordecais

have fun with a board full of 5 mordecai

FastChef
FastChef

Yes.

You get 3 bodies on the board and 2 pings.
That is easily worthwhile.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I made the deck and went into unranked.

Just finished two games. The first one got a 3/4 AE and conceded when I play my first follower which was Spartoi Soldier. Next guy conceded before my 1st turn. I think it's working.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Plenty of dragon decks do that
Given they are the most expensive decks in the game

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I LOVE THIS FUCKING GAME.

iluvmen
iluvmen

This is why i enjoy elena/seraph.

The stress of fighting against seraph is absolutely nerve wrecking, but when you are the seraph player it feels like you are much more in control and comfy zone.

Snarelure
Snarelure

i'm talking about minor shit like not even attacking with the guy before you urd it. just had a dragon use it on aeila without killing one of my 1/1's first

takes2long
takes2long

tfw I use Urd as the ultimate board control tool
Probably one of my favorite cards in the game.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

play banner against anyone
all games are exactly the same
by turn 5 you know if you win or lose
its a solitaire of its own

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Yes. Don't focus too much on fortresses or bat cards, they might not come up at all. If you have an option for face damage and board presence with vanias, taking it is usually worth it.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

topdecked Urd at just the right moment to save my ass from a fat Ancient Elf I didn't have the tools to stop twice today

Best wife.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I did it, I won!
after losing 6 in a row because of absolutely shitty topdecks

Fuck off, Vampy. Fuck this shitty deck.

Lunatick
Lunatick

opponent plays ancient elf before attacking with all his fairies

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

New thread time

veekyforums.com/thread/163233180/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/163233180/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/163233180/video-games

Methshot
Methshot

Urd's the best fucking card in the game and doesn't get nearly enough love. The excuse to run Urd is enough reason alone for me to pick up a deck.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I hate the dshift matchup a lot as sword as well, feels like like 50/50 matchup with midsword. If he hits his Levis and I can't get decent board and face damage established by t5 I'm usually toast.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

This is a Japanese 3 headed hellhound.

viagrandad
viagrandad

play control you pleb

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Playing aggro forest against Dshit
Couldn't draw Roach, Liza no where in sight
Vomit Faries everywhere and pray, my prayer gets answered with Angelic barrages on turns 3 and 5.
Starting to feel desperate, but Liza finally shows up on turn 6, desperate struggle to fill the board. Finally managed a Evolved Tia + Liza combo on turn 8.
Tits drops Flame destroyer and evolves it. It's all over.
But no DS to be found. She angelic snipes me three times in the face and ends turn. I notice she only has 4 cards left in hand.
Drop Ancient Elf and combo with Liza again next turn, Tits plays a 9-cost DS, and promptly concedes next turn. Never did I get my roach.

Sometime you just have to believe in someone else's misfortune.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Yeah out of all my decks I only like playing against Elf with DShift.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

To me that is awful. Its like a stressful race to not become useless and lose.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Need a concede

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