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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

can you imagine being this salty tho

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

brown elf direct brain stimulation VR when

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

LAURA STILL SUCKS

FastChef
FastChef

he bought the deluxe version

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

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THE ENTIRE CAST GOT NERFED EXCEPT LIKE URIEN

There was no reason to go heavy-handed on nerfs, this leaves EVERYONE unhappy

You can like shotos, grapplers, zoners, top tiers, it doesnt matter because THEY ALL GOT NERFED

Who can walk away from this feeling satisfied?

Booteefool
Booteefool

marn is saying laura will break the game

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

www twitchtv/ultrachentv?sr=a

if you want to hear ultrachen read the patch notes, he's 1/4 in now

girlDog
girlDog

Are league points getting reset tomorrow? Should I even spend time beating scrubs tonight?

Bidwell
Bidwell

This is a cute girl(human).

StonedTime
StonedTime

tfw skullgirls will NEVER EVER be played at a major event by people who matter

eGremlin
eGremlin

Who can walk away from this feeling satisfied?

Urien players.

JunkTop
JunkTop

tfw pigskin

shit i aint got anything better to do

Lunatick
Lunatick

they nerfed Alex
I don't even understand why

Spamalot
Spamalot

we know that Karin has shit anti airs
so we gave her an air target combo that's not actually going to help her

thanks combofiend

likme
likme

these are the last people i want to hear opinions from

SniperWish
SniperWish

Urien, Ibuki, Laura and Balrog players

that's about it

RumChicken
RumChicken

Reminder:

Mika is now a terrifying grappler who can juggle you in the air.

TechHater
TechHater

V-Skill (Matador Turn):
Reduced projectile invincibility time 5F when follow up is not preformed

HP Aurora Spin Edge (Claw):
Increased active frames 4F to 6F
Added hitbox to hit opponents behind Vega

made Vega's V-Skill even more useless than it already is
HP ASE actually sounds okay but will have to test

As for everything else he got nerfed

What the fuck Combofiend?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Alex destroyed
Good

Fucking garbage boring character

idontknow
idontknow

rashid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nerfed
yeah right they'd nerf him right after 5 terrorist attacks? likely story

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I'm gonna play him anyway, but what's the general consensus on Raven?

SniperWish
SniperWish

he's for fags

RumChicken
RumChicken

He isn't actually a bird.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Why do they want Alex to go back to 3S garbage level is beyond me

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Well I'm dropping bitch made SFV for Blazblue. Who are the most fun characters in that game right now?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

play cummy blasterz

girlDog
girlDog

hakumen

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

literally transforms into a bird when he wins
not a bird

?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

nash got mostly buffs
I tought they would make him a shittier character instead he seems better than before

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Who else buying revelator now that season2 is confirmed shit?
Get Guilty Gear instead.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

how many pages of notes did the last patch have? anything less than 90 isn't worth my time sorry

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

We're gonna do our best to not nerf any of the top tiers and only buff weaker characters
Nerf weaker characters even more and slighty nerf top tiers
Thanks Capcom

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

All those Rog buffs

UNGA BUNGA HAS EVEN MORE SAFE PRESSURE

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Turn off your bluelight filter

farquit
farquit

Do people still play UNIEL or is it ded

Techpill
Techpill

nah, I think Guilty Gear character designs and music are fucking trash. I like Blazblue much better. plus better story

Snarelure
Snarelure

desu they are all pretty fun, they are all so unique.

SniperWish
SniperWish

too braindead and doesn't need his main gameplay gimmick at all to function

StonedTime
StonedTime

This is a bird that turns into a bird

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

people will defend this

happy_sad
happy_sad

people still play but its mostly steam now
i play ps3

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Isn't the music down by the same guy for both games?

Skullbone
Skullbone

this
RASHID WILL WIN EVEO THIS YEAR

Emberfire
Emberfire

bison gets a reversal in v-trigger

Flameblow
Flameblow

Wew fuckin lad

Ya'll seein this shit?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

still loses to meaties

cum2soon
cum2soon

blazblue has actual neutral. if i want to get knocked down into another coinflip mixup i'd play sfv.

DeathDog
DeathDog

There's almost no point in using it when it gets punished so severely. I can only use it against Pot's.

massdebater
massdebater

How many slaps in the face does it take? I am petty sure capcom even had a powerpoint presentation where they wrote again that they swear only buffs now.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

it's fully invincible on frames 1-25 tho?

EX Head Press (V-Trigger):
Changed to full invincibility to 1F-25F of animation

happy_sad
happy_sad

So who walks away from this awful season not feeling like shit?

Urien, Balrog, Laura(sort of)...?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Anyone who wants to join. Final Season 1 lobby for SFV.
prlprl
ft1
password 2017

Come on in and have fun.

RavySnake
RavySnake

the season of Rashid begins in less than 10 hours

RumChicken
RumChicken

fucking laura

Nojokur
Nojokur

Sonicfox is the fighting game player that made the most money from playing fighting games.

askme
askme

and only a handfull of them are viable. so much fun

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

gets punished so severely
i only use it against this one character with large one hit moves and a 40% command grab
wew lad?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

sick mixup

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

It also takes 35 frames for the hitbox to come out so you'll recover from your meaty in time to block it at which point you are +2.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I wish I could be fucking Laura right now

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

tfw they guy one of your characters
but break another

HAHA

BOXER UPRISING SOON COMRADES

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Urien is buffed

3rd Strike is back bois

King_Martha
King_Martha

I would prefer if his oki projectile would have better startup but was worse for oki and that his pain gimmick was active at all times instead of just the stance. Otherwise decent coolio.
The cat.

w8t4u
w8t4u

only a handful are viable
not true

likme
likme

isnt that just like new DPs

it needs to be invincible from frame 0 i thought

Playboyize
Playboyize

mostly because of mk tho
a game with no international competition

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

are u gonna dodge me in season 2 as well?

viagrandad
viagrandad

frame 0

:^)

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

people are going to play a game where the lower tiers are nerfed even more

so less character diversity? get fucked capcom lmao

Bidwell
Bidwell

The discord is fairly active.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

What? Just back up, he's slow as shit.

Might be a little broken if it were active at all times

Skullbone
Skullbone

those Ryu nerfs

Aaand dropped

Guess I'm picking up Urien or Laura or I lbuki

eGremlin
eGremlin

But BB is more one sided than GG and I don't say that as an angry goober, I play both of them a lot.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

OH TEA GEE

BIONIC

______________________!

girlDog
girlDog

Rashid players are the most peaceful fighting game players of all time.

viagrandad
viagrandad

laura is mostly the same

nerfed some of her better buttons and made it so she can get different buttons of meaties.
hit meaty lp elbow and you get st.lp links
in season 2 you get st.lk link

SniperWish
SniperWish

Reminder that PC Xrd is the only game (in addition to skullgirls) where you can enjoy netplay with combined input delay of 2 (two) frames.

WebTool
WebTool

Urien, Balrog, Laura, Balrog top tier. I fucking hate the sound of this already mates

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

they actually nerfed Vega

RumChicken
RumChicken

b-but that doesnt count
kys tard

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Cammy!

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

*coughing up blood* This is the end for me...farewell, my friends...

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

But BB is more one sided than GG
you're absolutely delusional

5mileys
5mileys

that mus have been fun to animating, I wonder how they rig the characters

t. have an interest in animation

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Karin
Parameters for most of Karin's general attack have been revised. As Karin's primary weakness was her lack of anti-airs, an airborne target combo has been added to strengthen her anti-air abilities.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Guilty Gear is literally Vortex: The Game...

No idea why so many people dick ride that shitty fuck game

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I'm not, and its a good thing I'm here to correct your lies you think you can get away with outside of /blaz/. Neither game has issues with being too one sided though, both are great.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

you'd swear combofiend had death threats the way he disappeared

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

thank fuck
i'm so sick of seeing Ryu

Techpill
Techpill

Of course the effect would be lessened if it was a passive trait.

Evilember
Evilember

this is why nobody likes goobers

SniperGod
SniperGod

And they will probably explain it all away with
System changes don't count as nerfs.

WebTool
WebTool

Vega
Parameters for some of Vega's normal attacks have been revised. As Vega's damage output was generally questionable, Aurora Spin Edge and Crimson Terror have been strengthened, increasing the return when they land.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Are you guys ready for Rashid's season?
Soon, everyone will remember the name well!

Nojokur
Nojokur

well it doesn't.
mortal kombat can barely even be classified as a fighting game

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Thats Zangief players

askme
askme

those anons are crazy user you're correct

I don't understand how they think BB isn't more oppressive that GG.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

This hurts.

No more meaty LK Elbow? For what purpose?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

explain how i'm wrong then
explain how the oki game in bb is the same as in gg when bb has things like multiple ways to tech and no yrc projectile oki horseshit

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

blazbabbies everyone

hairygrape
hairygrape

its good. ryu should just be introduction character.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

laura might still suck but I can't wait to ex command grab necallis doing button into stomp

1f gap is all I need pussies

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I want to fug the cammy

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

no one is even talking about him. boring shitty pandering character no one wants to see or play.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

nice webm for ants fag

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

All these fucking faggots already hopping on the Ibuki bandwagon

desu they should make it so if you never played a character in ranked during S1 then you can't use them in season 2

Fucking tier whoring faggots

Nojokur
Nojokur

So what the actual fuck do I now with Mika when I can't make niggers guess at mid screen? she's toast boyz

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I like ibuki very much but I can't play her worth a shit

sticking with zangief/laura/bison desu senpai, good luck in season 2

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

pandering
What?

And rashid is easily the most liked new character SFV. Everyone loves his spin moves and his song

Techpill
Techpill

fuck off /pol/
i cant wait to see how butthurt you get when he starts winning majors

Flameblow
Flameblow

Pretty much every low to mid tier character got buffs, only Birdie and Fang seem not to get a whole lot. Urien, Rog, Sim, Bison, Ibuki got mad buffs, the rest quite decent ones. Don't know why everyone is whining as the top got nerfed all over. It looks balanced on paper.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Peeple get pretty hype when he does well in a tournament.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You can't even do Power Bombs after Mp - Lp-slash probably because they made it so that after st.mp or any cancellable buttons you pushback farther. They want 3S Alex where you play neutral and barely get anything from whatever you do

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

someone at capcom decided Urien needed a buff lmao

RumChicken
RumChicken

Maybe they wanted to play her from the get go, but weren't impressed? I was hoping for Juri to be good and passed by when she released.

eGremlin
eGremlin

being a filthy commoner

Nojokur
Nojokur

Everyone loves Rashid as he is fun and interesting. Takeuchi is amazing to watch...when he was still playing well.

Piss off to you know where, homo.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

not being a loyalist

Playboyize
Playboyize

this isn't true at all. people always get hyped as shit when rashid stunts on people on stream.

plus he's spawned off like 3 or 4 different memes by himself

SniperGod
SniperGod

teenage ninja

eGremlin
eGremlin

Ryu nerfed hard
Ken nerfed
Chun-li nerfed
M Bison alterred
Cammy nerfed
Birdie nerfed (lmao)
Necali nerfed
Vega nerfed (lmao)
Cammy lightly nerfed
Nash nerfed hard
RASHID BUFFED (!)
Karin lightly nerfed
R Mika nerfed
Zangief nerfed (L M A O)
LAURA BUFFED (!)
Dhalsim alterred
Fang nerfed (L M A O) (grey health change in his favor though)
Alex nerfed
Guile nerfed
IBUKI BUFFED (!)
BALROG BUFFED (!)
Juri alterred
URIEN BUFFED (!)

FIVE CHARACTERS

FIVE CHARACTERS GOT BUFFED, EVERYONE ELSE IS FUCKED

AND YET PEOPLE ARE STILL PLAYING THIS

Skullbone
Skullbone

SF games make such huge changes between games it's hard to be a loyalist. I liked playing Juri as a zoner in SFIV which is impossible in SFV.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Karin lightly nerfed

lmao

TechHater
TechHater

why lie on the internet though

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

dhalsim and guile both got big buffs

fuck off goober

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

it's honestly a head scratcher.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Who is easy in kof14

MPmaster
MPmaster

I liked playing Juri as a zoner in SFIV
wha

how

how does this work?

5mileys
5mileys

I mained that bitch since she got released but I'm dropping her for Mika this season so dont worry not everyone is playing characters for bandwagon buffs

Methshot
Methshot

just because he is the least used character doesn't mean no one wants to play him !!
rashid is awesome i love terrorists

Skullbone
Skullbone

Funny how pro gamers seem to completely disagree with you.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Most people are just salty about boom loops being shit now.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

People kept memeing on about le epic 3S Urien and aegis reflector memes
Niggas in the club are about to see what real aegis reflector memes look like until they stop laughing

Can't wait.

farquit
farquit

don't mash divekicks

idontknow
idontknow

most people cant even do the boom loops outside training room

Emberfire
Emberfire

I'm a goobloo actually

Watch any BB footage, if you actually played the game you would take notice. I'm not going to explain it again in length because I think I've explained myself when discussing this issue like 4 times on fgg befoe, check the archives or something. Even /blaz/ shares this opinion, it doesn't make the game worse, its just how it is.

tl:dr:
GG's initial mix up is stronger, easier to open the opponent up on wake up GENERALLY(stronger oki).

In BB initial mix up is not GENERALLY as strong, easier to stay in and more opportunities to open the opponent up (stronger pressure)

pick your poison

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Spam fireballs and use counter to stay slippery. Don't be a divekicking moron.

Bidwell
Bidwell

congrats on winning that match
you have been deducted 500,000ish fight money

THANKS PETER

Thankfully it just seems to be like a text bug, I still have all my FM

Illusionz
Illusionz

heavy oki games are 110% SHIT, so ez choice

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Yeah and it took them ages just to learn how to do it in training.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

if you actually played the game you would take notice
i do though lmao

In BB initial mix up is not GENERALLY as strong, easier to stay in and more opportunities to open the opponent up (stronger pressure)
this somehow translatesto BB is more one sided
you're either lying or shit at these games, choose one

takes2long
takes2long

Nigga, Ibuki's been my girl since the begging piss off m8.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

ibuki st.mk +5

StonedTime
StonedTime

It seems ridiculous how buffed he got considering where he already was and where almost everyone generally considered better than him is going. I'm pretty sure they want him to be a top tier threat in S2 to make up for his near-absence in S1.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Standing LK (Normal/V-Trigger):
• Changed startup from 4F to 5F
• Shrunk hitbox
• Expanded hurtbox around hitbox
• Increased horizontal knockback on-hit in the air

Airborne Hyakuretsukyaku (Normal/V-Trigger):
• Changed startup from 7F to 8F
• Decreased normal damage from 80 to 70
• Changed advantage on-block from +1F to -2F

my sides, thank god, bitch die in a fire pls

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

who is dank and why do people think he is me? i would never use a cancerous word like "dank."

MPmaster
MPmaster

That's a good decision on their part, Urien is a hype character.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Those Urien buffs
I'm not sure he needed all that

Health buff
j.lk crossup
cr.lp, cr.mk, st.hk, st.hp all buffed
fireballs all buffed
tackles all have better juggle potential
aegis reflector damage buff
also small damage buffs to some of his normals and moves

He was already a damn good character in S1

Emberburn
Emberburn

See me in Super Turbo

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

i'm taking a break before i play in this tournament in 20 min, sorry.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Everyone loves Rashid as he is fun and interesting
kys retard this is not your twitch chat

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

did anything of his get nerfed?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Juri altereted

OH LORDY PLEASE TELL ME THEY GAVE HER THE OLD FIREBALLS BACK PLEASE

Booteefool
Booteefool

Birdie changes

5mileys
5mileys

Stream?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

the literal worst anime setup kusoge straight from marvel
"hype"

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

no

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

they should have made a video with combofiend talking for every character change like they did with ultra

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

that's because they're shills and cucks

stay woke you dumb fuck

MPmaster
MPmaster

arkadeum

SniperGod
SniperGod

first season 2 tourney top 8
Urien x2, Akuma x2, Laura, Ibuki, Balrog, Rashit

screencap this calling it now

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Yo that taiwanese urien player is going to be a legit god now

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I think some of his normals have slower startup then before but more hitstun so you can do combos you couldn't before

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Hope you win, I believe in you

King_Martha
King_Martha

I'd love to see him try to justify the shit they did to Fang and Birdie.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

What did they do to fang and birdie?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Just got home from work, can someone sum up the shitstorm for me?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Me too, I'd like to see him argue why some characters were obliterated.

SniperWish
SniperWish

laura

lmaooo

Inmate
Inmate

sure

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

youtube.com/watch?v=ycnVK0S0mJU
I wish street fighter was not from capcom but I love capcom

girlDog
girlDog

why don't you suck that dirty custy ass tripfags dick a little harder there mystic

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

THE ENTIRE CAST GOT NERFED EXCEPT LIKE URIEN
Who can walk away from this feeling satisfied?

Most footsie buttons got slowed down and a lot of hurtboxes got increased. So you can now whiff punish easier like everyone has been asking for the whole year. Those complainers at least should be happy I guess.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Ryu and Nash players face when
Those are two characters who fell off pretty hard as people learned the game over the months.

The Ryu players were not real threats in the latter tournaments of the CPT

Nash players were even less of a threat. Infiltration got BTFO and Yukadon and Bonchan didn't do shit either

massdebater
massdebater

sf5 still shit
capboars still throwing money at low quality mods
Remember what he said for deejay?

farquit
farquit

cammy buffs
who in their right mind

takes2long
takes2long

you can whiff punish with slower moves

lel

askme
askme

How are Ryu and Ken players going to survive the nerfs?

TechHater
TechHater

Most footsie buttons got slowed down and a lot of hurtboxes got increased.
That sounds horrible especially for how bad sfv was already.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

When the amount of input lag is also equal to your average players online

cum2soon
cum2soon

ST Fundies ;^)

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

wakeup shoryuken
oh wait, they can't even do that either

5mileys
5mileys

twitter.com/AmbassadorFoxx/status/810868181162147840

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

MUH FUNDAMENTALS

MUH PARRY INFINITE SKILL CEILING

MUH

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

i can't live without my wakeup shoryu :c

MPmaster
MPmaster

we kusoge now

Emberburn
Emberburn

good taste

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Chris G said that Ibuki, Sim, Bison, Gief, Laura, Urien, Guile, Rog all got really good buffs. Who to believe? fgg that doesnt play games or an EVO winner?!

girlDog
girlDog

finally I can beat these random ass dp mashers, c u in silver soon fgg

Bidwell
Bidwell

Urien and Laura are going to be scary fucks this season.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Will we see the return of Gooey?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

urien is already one of the most common and annoying characters online

fuck his gorilla neutral and fuck everyone who plays him

eGremlin
eGremlin

we been saying the same thing f a m

viagrandad
viagrandad

i would trust an epileptic mute with downs (while seizing), before i would trust the opinion of fgg.

iluvmen
iluvmen

3s is so epic though

nothing more epic than a muscley guy in a diaper

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

gorilla and sfv are basically synonymous

There is no honest neutral in this game

Techpill
Techpill

Remove spook

Snarelure
Snarelure

oh wow I missed another buff of Urien's

His st.mp is now +6 on hit so that's new combo/damage right there...

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Fuck no, but he won't be as garbage anymore.

w8t4u
w8t4u

we will have to live with all these nerfs to characters that needed buffs for a year

FastChef
FastChef

Nathaniel Essex in MVCI?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

IT'S OUT ON PC
CAPCOM FUCKUP
IT'S OUT ON PC NO TROLL

King_Martha
King_Martha

That would make me diamonds.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Balance patches once per year is bad business.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

this character is fucking god damn retarded faggot bait. did gootecks suck off combofiend or something? why in hell they buff this shitlord??

twitter.com/AmbassadorFoxx/status/810868431499231234

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

only movie licence marvel characters

MPmaster
MPmaster

better than every few weeks like NRS games

Soft_member
Soft_member

Mr. Sinsiter
with no Jean
with no Rightclops
with no Cable
with no Havok
with no edgy third summers brother
with no Goblyn Queen
with no X-Man

Literally for what purpose?

Playboyize
Playboyize

and everybody else will tell us to shutup and adapt while they enjoy their characters with massive buffs

I don't want this to be another 3S situation.

FastChef
FastChef

Shit needs to be rebalanced after every major event or so to shake shit up and address how the ladder is. Minimum every 4 months.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Strongly disagree with this shit opinion

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

casuals think he's hype

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

/mlp/

TechHater
TechHater

theres a reason NRS games die a few months after release

and it's not because they are bad, because they aren't

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

characters you wanna see in Infinite go

pic related

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

all these Karin nerfs

Wew lads
Thank God I dropped this game months ago lmao

Illusionz
Illusionz

I agree. 4-6 months is perfect.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

SFV PC Season 2 Season pass: store.steampowered.com/app/480530/

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I'd say they are both equally bad, there is a happy medium of a every handful of months. These games really don't need a ton of time to breathe for people to figure out matchups.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

lol mr sinister hasn't been relevant since like 2010 when Wolverine and the X-Men ended

Spamalot
Spamalot

Normals are to stubby
okay we make hitboxes bigger
No just make fucking normals not stubby.

Soft_member
Soft_member

What should I watch while I eat dinner?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

b-but
Stop right there.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

NRS games
it's not because they are bad

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Actually MKX hasnt had that many patches I dont think, KI on the other hand has patches every month when in-season and then some every 2-4 months when out of season, but they dont destroy the game

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

he was in that deadpool character action game that came out a couple years ago tho

Lunatick
Lunatick

ryu got nerfed now errybody mad they gonna get exposed as not having fundementals so strongth they make mr. mediocre seem op and infact he was too good and they sukt

i was such a player

feels bad man

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

WHYYYYY!!??

askme
askme

fug

I hate this thing where marvel killed off a bunch of characters in that battleworld thing of them

a huge fuck you to comics - they're only focussing on movies

I'm not sure whether to blame disney, marvel, stan lee, or everyone.

Emberburn
Emberburn

it's a /v/tard spouts words he killed the meaning of episode

Flameblow
Flameblow

Actually MKX hasnt had that many patches I dont think
it had just as many as injustice and mk9
but they don't destroy the game
can't kill something that was never alive

Illusionz
Illusionz

God yes

BB Hood or Lord Raptor would be great

I am going to be so fucking mad if we get trash ass Felicia and Hsien Ko again

Oh wow really

That game just kinda came and went. Forgot it even existed

iluvmen
iluvmen

I don't understand how Alex got hit hard, yet Guile and Urien both got crazy buffed.

Firespawn
Firespawn

can't kill something that was never alive

Delete your post right fucking now

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Stay in your fucking board you insufferable jojobrony /co/

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

theres no memes or buzzwords in that post

unlike yours

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Emperor Vulcan
Mr Sinister
Iceman
Dormammu
Taskmaster

Techpill
Techpill

we're understanding the progression from SFV to SF3 for Alex

Literally getting slower and worse.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Didn't he turn into a hive being with a lot of girl bodies?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Apparently, his stomp got turned into a hit w/ projectile breaking properties. So you'll get hit trying to do that.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

kys anineet

Skullbone
Skullbone

Why are you posting zombie food?

Lunatick
Lunatick

are people still playing the anime game with metal music that was released on steam a few days ago? or is it doa?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Nerfed
Fang
Birdie
Alex
Chun
Ryu
Necalli

Buffed
Nash
Rashid
Zangief
Urien
Laura
Balrog
Who else got changed with the patch?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

As somone who loved KI. Being a Xbone exclusive for so long killed the community.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Where were the Fags that said the leaked build wasn't final
Hahaah
Juggles are here to stay

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

No DOA is a fighting game made by Tecmo Koei.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

it'll be dead tomorrow when sfv season 2 drops. save your money

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

just another anime fotm game for the steam babies

askme
askme

resident evil fightan when?

i main stinky ada

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

gief
nash
buffed

Lmao

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Parameters for some of Vega's normal attacks have been revised. As Vega's damage output was generally questionable, Aurora Spin Edge and Crimson Terror have been strengthened, increasing the return when they land.

Juggle potential for Vega's ASE is cool but what's the point when the startup is still too slow to use as an AA? Why say Vega's damage is questionable then nerf his damage and increase the stun? Surely the more consistent way to increase is damage is to actually increase the damage he does.

TechHater
TechHater

Easy: THEY WON'T

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

mika is lower than shit tier now. vega nerfed. ibuki buffed.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

It's still active online though.

Evilember
Evilember

I think BB Hood is more popular than Hsien-Ko so is at least a shot in the dark. Lord Raptor is lolno tier outside of a stage cameo.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Adam Warlock
Sentry

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I can see the light, tell my mother that I love her.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Balrog is a motion character now? Why?

Methshot
Methshot

Hey lets buff characters that were already top 8
Hey lets nerf characters that didn't see rep in top 8 ever
Capcom pls

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Yes but imagine how much more active it would be on Steam where everyone can play it for free and see all the amazing features to distract from the hideous characters.

Firespawn
Firespawn

hard reads and style

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Charge is hard for casuals

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

you can't #riseup holding downback

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Because a guy that has a fighting style of just beating the shit out of the opponent with overpowering force holding back most of the time doesn't make sense.

5mileys
5mileys

avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2016/12/19/tekken-revolution-ps3-is-coming-to-an-end-on-march-21-2017.html

likme
likme

protoman
strider
green goblin

Playboyize
Playboyize

claw? it opens the way for more combos
hes more fun than ever

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Allows you to catch people while pressuring, I agree motion is retarded but its a decent change to him overall.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Moon Knight

I want the crazy as fuck Warren Ellis moon knight with the suit alt costume

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

So is the new Mahvel game losing assists? It's more like SF X Tekken with tags now?

takes2long
takes2long

Ded Eliza

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Yeah vskill nerf is crappy. Most normals got buffed, some even got better advantage making them safer. The damage nerf to 2nd hit in clawless target combo is crappy though. Stun buffs to roll are nice. I don't like the slower normals but they already were quite quick. I'm a little worried about what will link from counter now.

I'm happiest about buff to air throw, it already was great before. Sounds like a buff for Izuna Drop as well--less frames but better range.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Guilty Gear yes of course people are still playing.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

will there be enough time to charge a dash straight after doing dp motion corkscrew to juggle?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

True I just wish it was more popular at loclas.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

He is just going to be a Bendis Moon Knight and moveset clone of Wolverine.

TreeEater
TreeEater

The problem though is that steam users who dont also have consoles dont really play fighters. I dont doubt that more people wouldve given it a go than on the shitty W10 store, but I dont think the number or returning numbers after the first month wouldve been a huge difference.

Emberfire
Emberfire

how much did luvcheez spend/grind in this

Firespawn
Firespawn

it's a steambaby

SniperGod
SniperGod

We know there are no more assists but we don't know the gameplay since we aren't psychics.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

RIP

this is the game that got me into Tekken

It was broken and had cheaters but I still much preferred it to the tag bullshit in TTT2

Not sure if I'll buy T7 though. The combos in that look stupid long

Inmate
Inmate

because if youre a charge character you have to use your normals and be smart instead of just spamming special moves. casual players don't like this and prefer to spam moves like a tard so they removed a lot of the charge characters in sfv

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

tfw you already plan on buying it
why am i such a cuck bros

Methshot
Methshot

She-Hulk
Iron Fist
Hawkeye
Shiklah
Strider
Nathan Spencer
Demitri
A Hunter

SniperGod
SniperGod

His mob money will pay for it

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

the motion move is terribly slow and unsafe

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Demitri
im not alone

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

$300 for her and her costumes is what he told me.

He's too cool man.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

all the new top tiers are characters no one likes

i hope sako at least plays ibuki otherwise its going to be a boring year of watching streams lmao

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Demitri
Ruby Heart
Son Son
BB Hood

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

tfw i can unlock all characters for free with the amount of fight money i've earned but will buy the season pass to support the best fighting game and the best developer in the world

rise up, lads.

TechHater
TechHater

Morrigan is already in the game you dorks.

Inmate
Inmate

who cares. more Darkstalkers, they're under utilized characters

hairygrape
hairygrape

Are you implying that all Darkstalkers characters are the same?! Hold your tongue!

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I don't think they'll give wolverines moveset to anyone because the guy who leaked the MvCI announcement said Xmen characters were already planned for DLC

Wolverine will definitely be part of that xmen dlc

Firespawn
Firespawn

Urien was hype as fuck back in the day because he wasn't going to be in every match and charge-partitioning was an honest to god high-skillcap tech.

Now we're going to see a ton of Uriens in finals because capcum has zero understanding about videogames

Flameblow
Flameblow

Did you buy all the premium costumes already?

Evilember
Evilember

Probably going to buy the season pass so I don't have to play against rankedcucks for fight money and can training mode monster all day #riseup

FastChef
FastChef

those birdie nerfs
...........…........................lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Now that season 2 is confirmed shit what do we have to look forward to?

girlDog
girlDog

ye it's not like the previous 2 marvel games both had at least 3 vsav reps

Emberfire
Emberfire

Well there's a Nier Automata demo coming out Thursday.

SniperWish
SniperWish

you mean those universal nerfs right?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

ryu player detected

cum2soon
cum2soon

CF1.1
More Revlaturd
People watching at smash tournaments?

Methshot
Methshot

Tekken
Kill yourself back to /v/

StonedTime
StonedTime

So are all the characters coming out this season brand new?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

#PlayKI

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

my nigga
moon knight is creepy as fuck

askme
askme

christmas!

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

sf5 will die before riot fighter comes out
are we headed for another dark age?

JunkTop
JunkTop

name one current gen fighting game that is worse than SFV

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

as new and high production value as decapre

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Fantasy Strike.

Methnerd
Methnerd

friendly reminder that melee is already balanced

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Was it mostly online, dialysis challenges or survival?

girlDog
girlDog

You are going to get Manphibian with very familiar moves.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Stop trying to force this dark age meme, it's absolutely retarded

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Ingrid
Gene
Arthur
Decapre
Necro
BB hood
Jill Valentine
Talbain
Lilith
Nero
Lady
Tessa
Guy
Cody
Haggar
Gill
Dan
Sakura
Blanka

Punisher
Nightcrawler
Groot
Rocket Raccoon
Black Widow
Deadpool
Daredevil
Rogue
Gambit
Scarlett Witch
Cable
X-23

fill in with whatever shit pleb characters people always like

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Capcom always manages to go lower than peoples expectations. They are the eternal masters of limbo.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

So if we take out all the system needs, how many changes do we actually see?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Rip, I predict eliza ending up in T7 though
The real question is will T7 be out by then

DeathDog
DeathDog

So is Akuma launching at midnight?

girlDog
girlDog

Tekken 7 will release 2 days later.
Switch releases shortly before too.

Methshot
Methshot

IS AKUMA GOOD THO????

RavySnake
RavySnake

Pisss getting free ride because his opponents are not showing up
Why is this allowed?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Hell no dumbass.

Emberfire
Emberfire

twitter.com/AmbassadorFoxx/status/810981974563287040

Oh my god this is so broken

Oh, you think you're gonna block my overhead target combo? Thanks for putting yourself in the corner

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Are fightingn games worth learning? What marketable skills do you get from playing fighting games?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

They didn't test this shit at all.

JunkTop
JunkTop

How else would you fcking do it?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Do you think fighting games are fun? If so then it's worth it.

idontknow
idontknow

this.... is a mistake.

TechHater
TechHater

"fun" is a cheap word. you can have "fun" kicking a can down the street. what you mean to say is fun and fulfilling, and fighting games definitely aren't that.

they aren't going to help me get into medical school. they aren't going to teach me any marketable skills. yet they still take an obscene amount of time to get good in.

so i'll ask again, are fighting games worth learning?

JunkTop
JunkTop

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

URIEN DA GOD

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Hand eye coordination. Dedication. Appreciation for fit women.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

HAHAHAHA
What a meme!
Exquisite!
Top 8 kind of exquisite!

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

typical video game benefits like improved reaction times and problem-solving skills. nothing to impactful

iluvmen
iluvmen

Winning at fighting games releases a huge hit of endorphins in your brain because we're programmed to respond positively to winning games of chance. There are only two functions we have as organisms, the first is to stay alive and the second is to do things that cause our brains to secrete the chemicals that make us happy.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

the hell wow just got to that

holy shit hy is he a motion character now

what the hell

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

le edgy contrarian kid

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

A FOOLISH INSECT THAT DARES TO DEFY ME

Bidwell
Bidwell

The marketable trait of boosted self confidence for succeeding in something difficult
Unless you go for the low hanging fruit that is SFV

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Hand eye coordination is good for a surgeon. Studying framedata can help with development of comparative analysis skills.

Though your stupid as fuck argument can be said for any form of entertainment. So fuck off.

farquit
farquit

The doll with the megaphone should be a new character

SniperWish
SniperWish

fuck enero

Illusionz
Illusionz

is anything really "worth" learning when you are going to die soon and your existence is completely forgotten? worth what you fucking fag?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Why?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

These Mika nerfs

Jesus fucking Christ, I was fine with her getting some adjustment, but this is fucking brutal

TechHater
TechHater

character who rarely if ever made top 8 and wasn't even good online who got nerfed anyway bros [email protected]

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

James "Diversity" Chen:

Mika was not that nerfed as bad as people think
Her V-Skill is scary now

Told you faggots

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I wonder if there is also a Japanese blog with changes and due to Capcom incompetence the changes are somehow different from the document we got

Soft_member
Soft_member

STREET FIGHTER V is a good game and will continue to be a good game in season 2.

farquit
farquit

the jumping target combo is too good
#staywake

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

laughing li joe in the distance

hairygrape
hairygrape

we won't nerf top tiers, just buff low tiers
proceeds to gut top tiers and give those guts to low tiers
Nice "balance"

Methnerd
Methnerd

what marketable skills do you get from being an obnoxious cakeboy

DeathDog
DeathDog

will still call Urien ass

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Yeah, although, I quit playing that piece of crap like 3 weeks in when I realized that they don't have any clue on how to make an interesting competitive game.
They just want braindead monkeys to have fun beating each other.

Bidwell
Bidwell

you will never fraud your way to EVO top 8 with a rigged bracket like LI Joe
why live

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

mika might as well not have a v skill

maybe it works on total noobs but other than that congrats on your slight damage increase and health loss

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I want a mod that gives her the god their butt back and puts the breast size back to what it use to be.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

negative ass
ruining a good design for your 12 year old pandering dlc shit

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

may as well not have v skill
boosts damage for free and doesnt go away now, armor is now immediate

good luck with your "zoning" faggot. no matter what you do youre going to eat a charged wingless airplane or charged command grab, over and over and over again.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

You're describing a gimmick character

Every one of her other options has been fucked in half

TreeEater
TreeEater

another 15 losses today, can't stop getting mad at videogames.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It's not even hideous.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

You're describing a gimmick character
Welcome to street fighter v.

SniperGod
SniperGod

its not a gimmick, its a free charged wingless airplane

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Why does Chun-Li have like a million moves?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

SFIV was infinitely more gimmicky, which is to say not much more gimmicky than V

Mika's "adjustment" was obviously done to appease babies. They're gonna complain about Laura the same way they did Mika

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Her titties are fine, her ass only looks that way because of how she stands.

takes2long
takes2long

they should just remove grapplers

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

i went 10-2 today if it makes u feel any better

King_Martha
King_Martha

It's a gimmick when that's her only viable option

takes2long
takes2long

youtube.com/watch?v=63PIWEPQcNg&feature=youtu.be

This trailer is fucking cool I love it.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Honestly I think it suits her old costume better emphasizez her legs more and I liked when "big breasts" was one of her likes in her bio.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

its really not a big change. she can still whip you into the corner and ex peach right after to take you to the corner. theyre really changing the amount of time you spend in animation which is probably what makes her "feel" annoying to faggots.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Nah her ass looks liek negative because it is negative. The tits just belong to the true Juri from 4.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Not 2k2 athena with the booty shorts

askme
askme

Are you serious? Juri's ass is not the best but it is way better than in IV

Skullbone
Skullbone

look up "bafael"s combos who everyone seems to recommend and he actually uses move names instead of notations lmao whats the point in that id really like to know

eGremlin
eGremlin

its cute
shouldve waited for the lighting update to make it Tbh

MPmaster
MPmaster

Athena has like a million outfits, no matter which one you picked someone was going to be mad. There's someone out there right now screaming about how it's not short haired Athena.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

the face
Just delete the game already.

Evilember
Evilember

the only major nerf was passion press, what are all the other options you think that were removed? keep in mind damage got nerfed universally and so did pressure after throws (mika doesnt lose her pressure after brimstone too), got buffed v-skill, more juggle options, possibly buffed hk (not in notes but its in the beta)

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

holy shit they couldn't show this costume with the new shaders?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Why not just release each different outfit as DLC and make bank

Illusionz
Illusionz

Agree with , but yeah it is pretty great.

Methnerd
Methnerd

people also ignore the fact that the person runs for 50f instead of 28f after irish whipe

thats 90% to the corner

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Because there are like 30 other outfits they need to put in the game first.

cum2soon
cum2soon

So here we are.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Now that I really think about it, you're right that the brunt of it was Passion Press. Still, things like losing the airborne state after a crouching MP and some other things really suck

RavySnake
RavySnake

How can anyone stand to watch Floe? He's so fat and ugly and just unfunny in general. Why do people like him?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Are we?

idontknow
idontknow

the guy was there but it was NA only and he was from fucking romania with 187 ping. i beat the other guy. kuroppi beat me like he always does cause he is just better than me.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

i play a lot of mika and i actually think she just became a very very scary grappler instead of just this ridiculous button masher. not nerfed at all imo. shes like zangief, its hard for her to catch you but when she does, youre going to feel it badly.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

tfw i can beat diamond ranked players

i'm doing it lads!!!!!!!!!!! i'm gitting gud!!!!

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I'm pretty sure the outfit and the trailer were made a long ass time ago, probably like a month ago at least.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Ducking a vampire

Snarelure
Snarelure

so?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

RIPPPPPPPPPPPPP
HAVE FUN NEVER GETTING HEALTH BACK WHEN YOU FLEX

i'm sorry for your loss

TreeEater
TreeEater

So like, the lighting wasn't done. The lighting probably still isn't done at this very moment, that's why it's being tested in the upcoming demo update and isn't coming out until January.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Well I think so, who the hell else should I ask

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

fuckkkkkk bros. im excited about mika. her new gameplay is going to revolve around using v-skill, then running up to you and making you fear for your life getting grabbed or whipped, instead of her mashing buttons like before. fuckkk her new gameplay style is going to be fun as shit.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

rip you beautiful bastard ;_:

RavySnake
RavySnake

they couldve just waited

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Gief got buffed, r-right?

Flameblow
Flameblow

I mean yeah, but that would have delayed the costume, which they didn't want to do. They wanted to keep content rolling out constantly. I mean I get it, you're right, the trailer would look WAY better with the update, but it's not like what they did doesn't make sense.

SniperGod
SniperGod

they nerfed gief and birdie
for what reason?

iluvmen
iluvmen

they didnt, those are universal damage nerfs

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Gief gained some and lost some.

Lariat hitting low is nice and a bunch more options putting him at +2 on block gives more opportunities for guessing games.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I just thoroughly read the whole 92 page list of changes from s2.

What sticks out to me was laura's buffs to cr lk and command grabs, sim's new possible setups and control, and urien's everything.

WebTool
WebTool

i'd fuck the shit out of this chick

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

So who should I main in season 2? I normally use Nash but we all know how that went.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

so she's no longer corner based? sounds good

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

This, but unironically.

Grapplers are dishonest by design and reward flow charts/gorilla mash

Techpill
Techpill

+2 cr.mk

what the fuck were they thinking

Skullbone
Skullbone

The ass is not negative idiot, are you blind?

DeathDog
DeathDog

james chen reading through laura changes
90% of changes are nerfs
stream chat erupts when he says overhead combo in vtrigger
"I don't think she got much better"

james chen is a smart man. Stay woke sheeple, only streamboars think shes buff

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

DONT CUT OFF LY LEG!! DONT DO IT! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*Chomp*

Welcome to season two, Karin.

Fuck. I'll try to adopt, but i will be ready to roll to Ibuki.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

wtf why was chun nerfed so hard, shes literally the most honest char in the game and never wins majors

RumChicken
RumChicken

shes not corner based. itll be harder for her to send you there but she can still send you there if she hits her whip. otherwise she'll just be trying to do massive damage to you with her v-skill charged moves.

happy_sad
happy_sad

is this autism?

Flameblow
Flameblow

whiny babies who think a character that can't win tournaments is broken.

StonedTime
StonedTime

what the fuck did he mean by this

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

doing everything we can

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

He won't get many real followups due to pushback probably, but the fact that capcom would give urien so much to work with is surprising. I'm having a tough time figuring out a weakness for the character now

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Will Season 2 expose the frauds? Will Daigo finally rise to be the best again?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

shes not nerfed that bad. shes more honest now than ever with the lightning legs change and she makes up for it with more juggles and stuff.

Booteefool
Booteefool

*glomps*

happy_sad
happy_sad

balrog is the most honest character

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Will generally need to consider all the nerfs the whole roster got, then see what buffs others got, see how the system changes will benefit everybody and then MAYBE come to a conclusion.

Not gonna be that easy to tell. Laura will suffer because of the worse oki in S2, but at the same time she will benefit greatly from the lack of shitty air tatsus and wakeup dps.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

no, 3/5 fucks asians, hard

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Only thing that is really a nerf is her lk being plus 2 and not 3 and her stand mk being negative on block (lol just lmao)

Everything else seems fine although her air target combo is pointless.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

PISSS-Streaming is a 0-10 matchup lmao

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

youtube.com/watch?v=at8NWBSsfhg

RumChicken
RumChicken

put your trip back on redblade

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Stop posting

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

stop crying without reading the full patch notes

TreeEater
TreeEater

she also will suffer from decreased meter gain cause of how meter hungry she is. They even nerfed her cr.mk and didn't buff her hp elbow

she got better but not much and its sad cause shes so close to being good

Evilember
Evilember

Did Birdie actually get it that bad? Everyone's saying the character is dead but I don't know enough about him to see why beyond nerfed damage and pokes (which almost everyone suffered from).

Illusionz
Illusionz

The only oki she got nerfed for was back throw. Everything else is still the same as S1 or better. The universal +1 after M bolt charge ender is gonna be huge. At a glance, her blender got way better, but her neutral seems even worse outside of projectile invincibility for EX command grab.

Capcom seems dead set on her being a character with bad neutral that converts into zany plus frames that cashes out with command grab.

eGremlin
eGremlin

lost some armor, some damage, some health, but some of his moves are little safer.

Overall, nerf.

whereismyname
whereismyname

who has the best system menu voice in xrdr

WebTool
WebTool

Announcer

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

They removed his only reversal, the one that cast EX meter

They nerfed his overhead and command grab

Nerfed his cr.mp

Also nerfed his health

I'm dropping him

w8t4u
w8t4u

Nerfed his cr.mp

This one hurts the most. That really solid anti-air is the best thing about him.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

being able to actually do something after command grab is gonna be good too but why did they do the things they do?

why nerf cr.mk, why not buff hp elbow, why not make her fireball not so shitty

farquit
farquit

chp-> hp chain works as a pretty sick anti air now

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

SFV Season 2: the guile and urien game

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

they're neat characters at least

Nojokur
Nojokur

Crouch HP is really good at certain ranges but cr. MP worked pretty much every time no matter what was coming in.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Welp, another season of playing a garbage character.

Thanks Peter. FANG really needed the nerfs.

Firespawn
Firespawn

If i remember correctly, you don't need cr mk in oki situations anymore because cr lk is +2 on block. So theoretically you have a low option that should now combo into stand jab on hit, or frametrap into buttons or a tick throw.

This is all in theory though, I don't play laura much

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

The ex bullhorn nerf is the worst

Now he's completely free to pressure even with meter lul

Illusionz
Illusionz

What if guile had an SPD?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Welp, another season of playing a garbage character.
Just stop playing shit games?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I dont know about dead, but the nerfs are ugly.
Most of all you have to consider that Birdie lives off his pokes. Its his maingame. Making them worse directly makes the character worse.

They nerfd his cr.mp anti air. I really dont like it when AAs get nerfed.
Cr.HP is also slower now. Not cool.
He lost frame1 armor off his ex bullhorn, thats a gigantic nerf to his wakeup game. They made it safe on block at the very least though.
Slide was gimmicky but nice to have. Chun Li still gets to keep hers including the vtrigger cancel.
It was one of his few ways to actually get in on fireball chars. Chains and leaps are too slow against Guile and Nash.
He lost his only 4f crouching move. Now its 5f, which kinda sucks. But now st.lk has a reason to exist I guess.

These all add up to significant Birdie nerfs. Dont even care about his overall damage output and health.

His buffs are almost all just fixes. Before you couldnt even properly combo st.mp into bullhead at some distances. Now you get sucked in which allows you to land it easier. Same with his crush counter shit.
His biggest buff is the v-reversal. Now it launches people almost full screen away. I tried it in the leaked beta and its pretty fucking strong for him.
They also made the donut a bit faster. That was definitely needed because you simply lost too much space when you ate one. Some characters could even punish it fullscreen on reaction.

Overall still in a really nerfd state. He will benefit from the nerfs of other characters though. Ex divekicks were disastrous for him. Now he can actually take momentum back. General oki nerf will help him too.
I think they did some of the things because the overall system mechanics changes help him. Dunno if that was truly needed.
He will still be extra free to Guile and maybe Nash too. Dunno how badly he got nerfd.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I'm fine with this. They are cool characters.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I think the rationale was that Laura's buttons were all unusually 'pointy' regarding hitbox to hurtbox ratio despite being kind of short range.

I don't think Capcom/Woshige/whoever ever intended for her fireball to be used as a neutral tool, just a bootleg aegis reflector and frame trap extender.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

cr.lk +1 on block now and cr.mk was used in neutral not for oki. It was a really really good button

w8t4u
w8t4u

wow the guy i played next was streaming while playing and the guy before me forfeited because of it and i asked him to turn off the stream and he left it on and it teleported everywhere. normally have 100 ping to him this time it was 250

epic

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

How did they nerf him? After skimming through his changes, it seems like he got buffed.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Excuses

WebTool
WebTool

So capcom increased pushback on rashid's vskill roll kick thing but made it -6? Basically at max range, like half the cast at least can't punish it lol

Too bad they subtly nerfed rashid's st hp though. I'm gonna miss hp spam until i get a CC

farquit
farquit

twitter.com/WinnerStaysOn/status/810940887371022336

i felt a great disturbance in the fgc, as if hundreds of goobers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced

DeathDog
DeathDog

If you look at the systemwide changes, it says they thought midrange poking characters like Vega, Fang, Alex were too strong in thew environment, so midrange buttons in general were made slower. (but more advantageous on block so the same combos still work.)

eGremlin
eGremlin

cr.mp is 7f from 6f startup now.

Doesn't seem like a huge nerf, but that button was at once both his footsies and punish tool. Without it, he literally has no way to punish any -6 move aside from two jabs, since he can't cancel lights into specials.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

is pisss playing shadowverse?

Spamalot
Spamalot

he acts like people were even watching

Evilember
Evilember

the white life system change is a decent indirect buff to F.A.N.G.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Remember that time Juri drove Cammy and Decapre from Brazil to England in 45 minutes?

massdebater
massdebater

kys arabuk

hairygrape
hairygrape

Sounds doable with the spy-tech seems to have

SniperWish
SniperWish

yeah i've been playing it a lot, i play ptp forest. i'm at AA0 now

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

nigga there's an ocean and at least 4000 miles between Brazil and England.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Play Fang and Alex
Both characters got comparatively dick-all for tweaks

Also play Bison and Urien
Both characters have been buffed to the high tier heavens

I think I made it out pretty well.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

play sf5
Nah you pulled the shortest sraw of them all.

whereismyname
whereismyname

remember when juri had good footsies?

Illusionz
Illusionz

what do i do when i hit close S far S HS as sol

Firespawn
Firespawn

rc bandit bringing

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

everything else is dead

viagrandad
viagrandad

What is the AC/DC of fighting games?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

melee

JunkTop
JunkTop

Adjustments to invincible moves that use meter. As previously reported, meterless invincible moves (e.g. Shoryuken) will no longer retain the same level of invincibility unless the EX versions are performed.

So wait. DP still has SOME invincibility? Just not as much as before?

I thought they completely removed invincibility outside of EX?

Illusionz
Illusionz

How good is Erika with only 1 DAO?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Why does the FGC treat Guilty GEar players like shit?

What have we done to you?

TreeEater
TreeEater

Well now that he can charge v gauge infinitely, people cant really zone and must come to him. So we'll see how useful that is

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

No one cares about Guilty.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

No, that would be reallyyyyyyyyyy dumb

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

depends on the version and what you go for, LK seems to be throw immune, HK upper body immune and MK lower body immune

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

marnlinie has the oplauge

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Bison
high tier heavens

Mid-tier heavens, maybe. I still can't see him being really strong in season 2, but we've only seen him on paper so far. Urien, though...

idontknow
idontknow

whens baiken?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

This shit is funny to me. Other fighting game players are so full of ressentiment for SF and SF players don't think of other fighting games at all.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

who is erika

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Because you got bullied by smash 4 players (actual children)

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

never ever

girlDog
girlDog

What have we done to you?
Consistently the most obnoxious and vocal part of the FGC.
You deserve all the shit you get.

iluvmen
iluvmen

The sword chick.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

To bad about JOJO Reference All Stars being 30 fps, it looked so good.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

It isn't even that that was the bad part. Shit is dull as fuck to play.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

but if there are less voices how can the be more vocal?

Spamalot
Spamalot

consistently bullied BB players
now getting it back at themselves

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

92 pages long list of changes
why

do I really have to read this shit

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

fucking kek

Nojokur
Nojokur

just shit your pants in anger more than anybody else.
its what they call a vocal minority.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Reminder that if you do not think that the new patch is flawless and improves SFV in every possible way beyond what we could have ever imagined then you are just a faggot goober gaga player that should kill themselves

Emberfire
Emberfire

Like half the changes are really pointless too. Or like, not pointless but so minor that they really don't matter.

Nojokur
Nojokur

angry about what

viagrandad
viagrandad

Bitched and whined for years about how Blazblue and every other fighting game was so much simpler than guilty gear and how everyone was babies for playing them.

Xrd comes out and its more simple than Blazblue and a number of other fighting games. Guilty Gear is still a great game but the fanbase really got blown up on that.

Illusionz
Illusionz

deIlluminati

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Daigo's capcom fighting jam mains.

I want a return to Daigo guile. I always liked his guile more then ryu. His guile was always the most dynamic Guile.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Xrd comes out and its more simple than Blazblue and a number of other fighting games
It really isn't though. AC was just up its own ass with subsystems and a bunch of pointless bullshit that was difficult for the sake of being difficult. Xrd is still a pretty fucking hard game to play in a lot of ways, it's just not AC, which is a good thing.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Who knows.
Faggots make no sense.

viagrandad
viagrandad

goobers blow themselves up every time they load up their game and see 3 players online

Emberburn
Emberburn

I can't believe this. Street Fighter is saved.

MPmaster
MPmaster

WEST COAST KENS ON SUICIDE WATCH

iluvmen
iluvmen

Revelator has 500 players online right now, Capcuck.

Evilember
Evilember

Do you guys even remember the USF4 changelog? After that I said never again.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

how can the trinity ever recover

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Its still a hard game but right now Blazblue def requires a higher level of execution. Whether that's good or bad is obviously up to the individual. There's some other games that are at the same level but yeah its not "every" fighting game, just some whereas Guilty Gear pre-xrd was pretty much the height of mechanic bloat and turning your fingers into pretzels doing certain combos

iluvmen
iluvmen

And now Blazblue is in a similar place

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Bragging about 500 players

burningkermits.jpg

RavySnake
RavySnake

Not for me. He's too linear, and he's got those funky trademark sfv combo timings. Not a fan.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

SRK still posting videos of "high level" alex players getting blown up by mediocre players on higher tier characters

capcom even nerfed the character too

Like, what was the logic. "He can be scary if everything goes in his favor and the opponent doesn't have a DP, lets make sure that he's not scary to anyone now that DP's are nerfed"

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Is it bad that I actually think BBs in a pretty nice spot right now gameplay wise? Especially after how rough CT was.

I just wish people actually played it.

w8t4u
w8t4u

How long til SFV updates tonight?

I want muh lion haired Akuma asap, and damn anyone who tries to stop me or tell me Akuma/the gaem itself is shite.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

is it true that Eddie was ironically one of the easier characters in +R

Emberfire
Emberfire

That's a better retention rate than SFV.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

cant you goobers just keep your mouth shut I cant read this shit anymore

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

link?

King_Martha
King_Martha

tfw don't have the fight money for Akuma
tfw still don't have urien either

Bidwell
Bidwell

Same logic that fucked USF4 dee Jay, and Honda

likme
likme

I love how BBCF is, but it's very impenetrable to newcomers

TreeEater
TreeEater

BB just needs a balance patch to gut the more obnoxious top tiers and CF will be a pretty good game in its own right.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

but right now Blazblue def requires a higher level of execution
I very highly disagree. BB has longer combos which have more choke points by nature because they're like fucking 3 times longer than GG combos, but because BB has buffers on fucking everything and auto jump installs everything and so on and so forth it's still much easier to do than how strict like almost everything in GG is. A GG combo will only have like one or two major choke points but those points are fucking tight as shit and will force you to drop them if you are even slightly off by a frame or two. Most I-No players have a hard time optimizing that character because her jump cancel stuff is fucking annoying to do, Chipp still has to jump install a lot of things, and you're kinda insane if you think Carl combos are harder than Zato combos.

Also, as for GG being the height of stupid hard bullshit, I would actually tell you to go back to #Reload and try playing it. It's REALLY not a hard game to play. There's some definite strictness and some of the inputs are still obtuse, but it is a way easier game to play than AC is and jumping from Xrd to #R is not all that rough of a change of pace.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I don't even mind the top-tiers, just get the bottom 5 up to mid-tier level at least and I'd be entirely satisfied.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Who's harder to play? Carl or Zato?

farquit
farquit

t. never used frc in a game

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Zato.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Carl
Jin
Nine

Yeah nah, I'd like some nerfs please and thank you

farquit
farquit

Fucking Zato by a lot.

FRC sucks but they're manageable. Also in #R there are a lot of characters who don't really rely on FRC. Jam has exactly one FRC that matters and you can never do it and still win because Jam is fucking stupid in #R.

viagrandad
viagrandad

tfw too honest for ibuki

strange feel

SniperWish
SniperWish

tfw i'm about to buy another season pass
please stop me

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

t. Mike Ross

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

i love smelly vaginas

happy_sad
happy_sad

t. someone who has no idea what a vagina smells like

hairygrape
hairygrape

Characters like Rachel are definitely up there with I-No in terms of difficulty if not even higher, even just handling them in neutral and learning their absurdly different confirms is extremely difficult. BB having buffers doesn't matter much for most characters when many characters like Mu-12 or Izanami have specific delays on their combos meaning you can't just mash them out as fast as you want. In Xrd I've never really had as much difficulty in using any character as I have had with multiple ones in BB. The only really hard characters in GG are just Zato, I-No, and Johnny in my opinion.

Zato and Carl have different types of difficulties, since Nirvana acts differently than Eddie even despite their inputs being similar, but Carl is definitely harder.

StonedTime
StonedTime

wet dank fish?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

blazbloobers think their game is difficult and get btfo

MPmaster
MPmaster

yfw you spend 30 dollars on akuma and 5 characters you know nothing about yet
yfw you still need to pay the 20 dollars for the holiday bundle

by my calculations, this game has been out for 10 months and has 170 dollars worth of content so far, being the game and all the season passes and bundles so far. not including each individual battle outfit or the halloween skins

viagrandad
viagrandad

direct input support
yaaay it only took one year
one more and I'll finally be able to play with keyboard without using crutches

Methnerd
Methnerd

Carl
I meant Zato, I my mind was wandering when I wrote that. Zato you have to control Eddie entirely seperately, and while I would say your pressure is easier, you'll get absolutely demolished in neutral as him without full control of what's going on, whereas with Carl you'll at least manage that despite it being relatively worse to the rest of the top-tiers.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Carl combos are easier to do than Zato combos (I wouldn't say by much but they are) but Carl neutral shenanigans are a lot harder to do than Zatos. At least for me.

#Reload was actually the version I played the most. You couldn't tell me I-No combos now are worse to do than they were then, not with a straight face. That said I played Jam for the most part who was pretty fucking easy and I play Makoto in BB who again is not a hard character so you may still be right about some things.

WebTool
WebTool

Well you don't have to buy the holiday bundle. You only really need the stage.

Nojokur
Nojokur

delusional goober
embarassing desu

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

You couldn't tell me I-No combos now are worse to do than they were then
No of course not, but the hard thing about I-No back in the day was Chemical Love because of the fucked input in the strict as dick input interpreter. If #R I-No had QCB Chemical Love she would be just as easy to play if maybe only slightly harder because of general old GG strictness.

idontknow
idontknow

only a problem for those who insist on buying all colors/costumes/stages, which is a fucktarded way of approaching things.

Firespawn
Firespawn

fair enough. just saying though, sheer amount of currency spendable on this game exceeds 200 dollars

pisses me off even when i haven't bought most of it

StonedTime
StonedTime

Urien seems to be ridiculous

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

but i sniff my vagina all the time

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Would it surprise/ upset you if you found out that it was Capcom's deliberate intention to make Urien overpowered, similar to Yun in SSF4, so that he'll become a 'heel' character?

Illusionz
Illusionz

see

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Yeah I feel ya dude. I've already wasted my FM on stages and characters and I've bought 3 costumes and Alex with real money. I don't want to spend more but I want to play Akuma and the holiday stage.

Evilember
Evilember

Surprising, no. Upsetting, yes because that's stupid and I have a nemesis that plays Urien and he's already way better than me.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Agree entirely. The thing is though that old GG did have all the strictness you mention. Thankfully they changed that for both ASW series. They're hard enough for newcomers to get into as it is.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

what returning characters did you want to see anyway? i only care about yun so i was rather pleased with 5 brand new characters. i think sagat and sakura would be a waste of space. i wouldn't mind if fei came back but if one of the five is a rekka character, i wouldn't care.

Nojokur
Nojokur

playing odd-numbered Street Fighters

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

friendly reminder that Ryu, Ken, Nash, Ibuki, Guile and Mika niggers deserve 0 respect or points
make sure to break the game or use trainers to beat them

5mileys
5mileys

Rose, and Adon. I got into the 'fgc' with SSF4

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

what do you mean by heel character?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

buy season pass for all characters
only play one of them
spend all my FM on stages and colors
no FM for the five BRAND new fighters i know nothing about if i like them

and the worst part is
still no costumes for rashid birdie fang or bison

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Better than the even ones honestly.

Either world warriors or TS characters. The only SF4 newcomer I liked was gouken.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

but 3s was the best fighting game ever made.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Im new to using Urien and want to pick him up. What is my go to low chain combo?

Snarelure
Snarelure

good joke user

SniperWish
SniperWish

Is 14 the most accessible KOF?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

people spend real money on things they can just unlock with in-game currency instead
why

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Blazblue is still rather simple
There are a lot of names for a lot of systems but none of them are "unnecessary" per se
I still think blitz shielding is an odd and unwieldy mechanic

The game balance is pretty good since only 5% are broken good or bad
25/32 being at least playable mid tier to almost godlike is a pretty solid balance effort for an anime game

I disagree in that RCing in GG makes the neutral faster but less intense since whiffing moves can be far less devastating than in BB.

askme
askme

spending hours to unlock a character
realize that character is shit after unlocking
wew lad at least if I buy something I can get a refund

likme
likme

There are no chains in sfv.

he just has your typical light confirms, into HP headbutt if they're standing or LK/EX shoulder if crouching.

Methnerd
Methnerd

i make $280k working at my father's contracts firm. you can do things like this when you graduate with a jd.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I just want someone from Darkstalkers or Rival Schools because then at least I know they'll be a little fucking unique.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

because some things are unlockable ONLY with in game currency and not with real money

thats how they get ya

honda because he got shafted in sfxt, only original character not included in it

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_(professional_wrestling)
Basically a character that the crowd can root against.

Techpill
Techpill

I'm a filthy '16er so this was before my time, but in SSF4 (maybe Arcade Edition?) Yun was intentionally made overpowered with the intent of the community banding together to learn how to fight him. This was retarded because people who are playing to win would often rather just play the overpowered character than learn how to fight him with a weaker character.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

its a shame +r didn't implement the frc input buffer from the extra options into the main game.
having a 5 frame window to the frc and your character glowing blue during really lowered the skill barrier.

TreeEater
TreeEater

youtu.be/RJndNtfuE-Q

TreeEater
TreeEater

is kof 14 still doing that tournament?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Yes. Grand finals in China.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Yup

First part is in Tokyo, top 4 is in Beijing

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Why does SNK even try anymore?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

the extra hitstun on crlp means laura can do

cr.lk, cr.lpxxlp elbow right

Methshot
Methshot

Because they care.

5mileys
5mileys

Yes.

TreeEater
TreeEater

They shoul have put in rollback netcode if they cared so much

Yes I get they are a 'poor' company. It's just I gave them money for a game I can't play multiplayer with.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Are Fag players just being ignorant to the white health regeneration slowown or something?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Why the fuck was Alex of all characters nerfed so hard?

This is actually retarded.

askme
askme

i thought he was buffed?

idontknow
idontknow

I can't play multiplayer with.
That's quite the exaggeration. It's not the best netcode ever but it's more than functional. It works well enough to get games in with people reasonably close to you. Also, it's less about poor and more that they are totally incompetent when it comes to online modes. This is actually a massive improvement over everything they've ever done before and in that respect is kind of impressive. Still though they don't have the expertise to do good online netcode and might not for some time unless they outsource or hire new blood that are savvy with this stuff.

Evilember
Evilember

I have literally never played a kof with delay netcode

It feels terrible. In fact all ealyfeels terrible unless the input delay in the game is extremely low.

That is not the case in kofxiv.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

He wasn't, Alex players are just whiny.

Flameblow
Flameblow

so

skimming the thread i take it half the people cant understand how to read patch notes?

why is ____ nerfed
everyone is nerfed across the board. akuma doesnt seem all that glass considering the universal damage reductions

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I have literally never played a kof with delay netcode
So you've never played an official SNK port of anything ever then.

iluvmen
iluvmen

our boy frionel blowing the FUCK out of atma on twitter

come get your mans, hbr

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

and never willl. let me assure you

massive buff imo

Snarelure
Snarelure

Removed the 3rd active frame from hitbox
What does it mean?

eGremlin
eGremlin

a few normals have an extra frame on them
just like what happened with everyone else
cr.hp can actually AA now
lariat is +6 on hit

you have to be a blathering simpleton to think he was nerfed at all, let alone "so hard"

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

youtu.be/63PIWEPQcNg

KOF IS HERE AGAIN

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I'm on neither side of that.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

already slow buttons became slower
cr.hp was already easy to anti-air with if you weren't a retard
oh boy but now you can st.mp after lariat wow such a huge buff

You're literally a moron

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

No one cares who you are or what you have to say.

5mileys
5mileys

yeah it was so easy to anti air with that absolutely nobody used it.

massdebater
massdebater

don't forget the elbow being shit now

SniperWish
SniperWish

an argument with indeterminable variables in it such as "being a retard" makes you sound like a fool

he wasn't nerfed. and i'm only figuratively a moron

Techpill
Techpill

I guess you're one of those retards who had to stick with jab anti-air, moron

Methnerd
Methnerd

but user he has a name. he is clearly more important than the rest of us

Snarelure
Snarelure

people still had hopes for SFV after Capcom installed a rootkit on everyone
That's it. I'm now convinced this is some advanced form of Stockholm's Syndrome. Snap out of it you fucking tools.

WebTool
WebTool

It's not the best netcode ever but it's more than functional.

But that's not even true. I live in Estonia, have solid internet and I've played against Altaczz in Fightcade, GG and USFIV with zero issues ever, but when I still played SFV, I used to have to stop lobbies against him because it became unplayable. I've played against local players or very close (Finland/Latvia) with similar issues, it just becomes unplayable at some point.

SFV netcode is overly sensitive and is not able to recuperate when something goes wrong.

Nojokur
Nojokur

500 entrants for SFV at EVO 2017.

Screencap it.

Bidwell
Bidwell

You mean i have to pay for that?

Techpill
Techpill

on everyone

you mean the pc master race :)

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

but when I still played SFV
Eh? I was talking about KOFXIV though.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

shut up goober

Emberfire
Emberfire

I hope this gets people to realize that SFV isn't good. It's just a fighting game called Street Fighter.

Playboyize
Playboyize

You shit your filthy Goober mouth, SFV is God's gift

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

that reply doesn't even make sense

all right see ya later

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Right, nevermind, missed that. So tired of people defending SFV netcode that I see ghosts everywhere.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

This might be the biggest change. If I'm reading it right, light elbow no longer provides safe meaty pressure after throw, which severely weakens his oki, which was one of the few good things the character had going for him.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

1/2 page dedicated to online/system changes

wheres the part 2 to this im missing a page

FastChef
FastChef

Keep scream goober as you continue to accept Capcom's dick up your nigger ass you sad pathetic tool. Keep defend Capcom. Maybe one day you can fool yourself it's not Capcom that's irreedemable shit, it's just everyone else that's wrong.

Snarelure
Snarelure

shut up goober

Flameblow
Flameblow

Are the red and green dots part of the asteroid belt?

RavySnake
RavySnake

No one cares faggot shut up. Go be an attention whore somewhere else.

StonedTime
StonedTime

They really didn't do anything for Juri.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Yes.

Methshot
Methshot

are you retarded

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

cummy brown is very fun to use desu

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

juri is one of the people who came out as a winner in season 2 changes. i dont think any dlc character was gutted

inb4alextears

Methshot
Methshot

Sometimes, I wonder about that.

Evilember
Evilember

Literally no point in not dropping this awful genre now.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Did you not read the notes at all or did you skim through?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

pretty cool senpai

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

she's too niggery. got anything lighter?

Methnerd
Methnerd

invincibility just starts later

SniperGod
SniperGod

V-Trigger (Yoga Burner):
 The fire carpet now also does damage to downed opponents
 Startup of recoverable damage hitbox is faster

can someone interpret the second point?

are they saying the flame carpet hitbox appears sooner i.e. so you cant v-reversal it?

carpet does damage OTG

yooo

Playboyize
Playboyize

who is kuroda

Supergrass
Supergrass

yeah
recoverable damage hitbox meaning white life damager meaning the fire

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

The Q player

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Your prom date you ugly sack of shit

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

new tier rankings when

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

looks fucking obnoxious tier:

laura

who the fuck knows tier:

everyone else

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Just release KoF14 PC already. I'm done with this SFV fucking turd. Boring uninspired garbage.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Oh

fuck that

whereismyname
whereismyname

I need pictures of LI Joe and Sonicfox cackling.

Booteefool
Booteefool

you could play MOE Chris Redfield of MOE Wolverine.

cum2soon
cum2soon

really laura? The stuff that got changed isn't as big as people think. Shes more or less just as obnoxious as shes always been, which considering you playing sim is obnoxious as shit

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

With epic KoF netcode it'll be dead on arrival

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

oh i've been meaning to masturbate to chris redfield and wolverine

it can prolly still be v reversald tho right

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Pretty much the best teir ranking until s2 tournaments

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

first thing im doing when the update drops is checking if gief new lariat beats stretchy limbs on anything other than frame 1 lol

Firespawn
Firespawn

Who is easy in umvc3

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

wolverine/doom/vergil is imo the easiest top tier team in the game

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Wolverine
Captain America
Wesker

farquit
farquit

you can vreversal it but the fire stays out

its a cool thing for sim but I feel that most of the time people are going to get out of the fire fast anyway

Firespawn
Firespawn

RIKUO FOR MARVEL INFINITE

Inmate
Inmate

so there are no ba female characters in sfv

lets see if you guys get it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Ryu got nerfed to kingdom come
Birdie is dead
Karin got better
Bison got better
Urien is fucking godlike
Cammy is a monster

This shit is dumb

Nojokur
Nojokur

bison is finally good again
street fighter is saved

King_Martha
King_Martha

ba
Bare Assed
Mika.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Birdie is far from dead, Karin also didn't really get better. The argument is definitely there to say she's been nerfed a bit.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Don't mind me just killing off fighting games for good

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Been playing SFV since February
Still can't beat Ryus
I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. Am I too predictable? Are their buttons better?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Night Nurse confirmed for MVCI when?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Cammy is a monster
I only saw nerfs,

King_Martha
King_Martha

Who will Daigo will play now that Ryu is now top 5

Emberburn
Emberburn

People actually think Bison is going to be good

God... It's just like when the game came out, you didn't listen then and now they won't listen again.

Bison will be solid mid-tier at best. Most of his core fundamental problems continue to exist.

Flameblow
Flameblow

are you actually thinking? Like actively weighing pros and cons? Do you know what his options are when he does something

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

More like saving. The FGC wouldn't exist without capcom.

Illusionz
Illusionz

can we have felicia instead
rikuo is gay

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is there a version on Sol uppercutting the Arc system works logo?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

ryu nerfed to kingdom come
?????????

did you mean shoryuken?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

well look again

TechHater
TechHater

Urien too.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

i've got this from the old /asg/ days

best i can do for ya

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

R̸̛̞̳͇̟̂̔ͭ̑̇̂̆̆̐̓ͭͯ͆ͧͯͅḮ̧̧͖̳̦̓̃ͤ́ͬ͋̋ͬͧ̍͂ͪ̈́̀͞K̸̫͈̹͔̙̠̙̖̮̠̮̝̍̽ͣ̀͑̀̍ͨ͑̀̀U̴̧̢͙̘̝̹̥̮̠̳̼̹̞͛̐̏̽̌ͭͮ͐ͬͣ́͡O̹̲͎̬ͬͫ͒̎͗̒͒ͭͪͯ̈ͫͦ͂̍ͭͪ̒͠ ͤͪͯ̑҉͚̟̭͔̰̫̼̼̯͎̪͓͚̳̺͍̩̮́͝͞Ḟ̷̹͕̣̖̼̫͑̽ͧͤ͝͞O̸̢͆̒̓͋̽ͬ͒̃͌̄ͩ͐͐ͬ̊͛̚͏̠̳̹̱̰̙̯̜̼̗̼̗Ŗ̦̺͈̒ͨ̑̈ͩͭ͜ ̶̶̛͓͚̙̈̐̔ͮ̈́̊̌̾ͪͧ͐͐ͣM͍͙̘̣̪̤̾̉̉̔̂̽̚͘͢͟͠͠ͅÄ́̄ͮ̋̂͏͎̤̻̳̣͔̯͙͖̠̭̟̭R̵̷̶̨̡̖̯̪͚̼̱̹ͫͣ̀͛̾͆͊ͧṼ̡̋ͩ͑ͨ̀̂̾̏͛ͫ̋ͭ̈́̈́̈̈́͞҉̣̼̯ͅĘ̶̨̩͖̻̭̼̥̞̤͉̉̔ͦ̾ͬͯ̂ͣͯ̋͋͊̒̂͑̄ͬ̿̕ͅL̛̯͇̙͈̘̣̖̂̎͒̉͆͛̀̓ͭ̑̃ͨ͒͛́̚͝ ̷͈͉͕̖̳͖̤̠̝̠̙̜̯̻̻̿ͣ̐̄̉͛̓ͬ̄̇̾ͯ̈́̋͡I̱͖͕̜͎̗͖̟̣̿̐ͩ̆͋̌̆ͩ̀͢͟N̡̛̫̤̬̫̭̩͕̜͇͕̳̦̪̺̗͚̜͆̿ͮ̌̇ͫ̈̄ͦ̓͋̈̀̊͋͆̉͞͝F̷̧̠͙̪̟̩̞͆͛̍ͪ͐ͧͭͫ̾ͫ̉ͤ̐ͫ́I̔̅̽͊̓ͩ̄͑ͬͦ͏̸̱̩̘̰͕̬͉̭̰̥̙̳̭̣̮̟́͝ͅNͨ͆̐̊͒ͣ͐̽̃ͩ͌̿͏̸̧̧̥̩̻͍͘I̢̝͚̲̻͖͈̹ͪ̉̈́ͮ̆͒̑ͦ̊̉ͫ̊̈́̿͆̆͞T̛̘̣̰̙͚̯̠̰̪͚̫̭͙͉̯͕̪̗̯ͬ̑̽̽̇ͩͨͪͩ͌̾ͩ̂ͮ̍̎̔̊̕͜E͔͕̱͓̰ͭͬ͌ͤ̒̏́͞ͅ
̵̣̮̟̱͈̞̣̼̦̰̭͚̖͍̮̥͕̗͊̈́̒͒̐̔̀͠͝
̴̢̢͖͙͙͎̳͙̹̦̙̝̠ͪͫͨ̌ͬ͐ͨ̅͆̄̾͜

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Now that Mika is dead, who will take her place?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Still see nerfs,

viagrandad
viagrandad

FGC =/= Fighting games

All Capcom does is support the 1% ESPORTS crowd while leaving the 99% to fend for themselves. This is not surprising when the people making the game are esports players and not actual videogame developers.

idontknow
idontknow

no, he will play evil ryu (confirmed for season 2)

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

kof14
inspired
its just the same shit all over again

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

laura

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

S2 seems all around worse than S1 going by these changes

Fuck Capcom, SF is dead thanks to eSports

Techpill
Techpill

Dunno m8, I'm playing SFV casually with a friend and its loads of fun.

I hope you dont think that the other 99% are fucktards who exclusively play single player shit.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Nigga the new season hasn't started yet, at least give her time to have her ass knocked down a peg.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Why did Ryu get nerfed on top of the universal changes?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Since people are scared of laura let me hook you guys up with some sick shit

Learn the jump tech os and just use it if shes close

If laura has a bar and you block st.mp or st.hp v-reversal 100% of the time

SWEEP HER WHEN SHE IS DOING FIREBALL. GIEFS CAN st.HK HER IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT

OVERHEAD IS -9 GET THOSE BIG PUNISHES

BUTTONS INTO COMMAND DASH AREN'T REAL PRESS BUTTONS

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Because he was fucking retarded.

despite having 1000 health he still had one of the most comprehensive toolkits in the entire game with arguably the best damage in the entire game. His normals were retardedly fast as well. 5 frame MP, 7 FUCKING frame sweep. Character was retarded.

takes2long
takes2long

Buttons into command dash is real in S2

Supergrass
Supergrass

nope

girlDog
girlDog

dont forget the ebin j.lk that ignored anti airs because they forgot to add a hurtbox to it.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Karin main opinion:
The ability to combo out of air to air gives her a gameplan for jump ins now which she sorely needed.
That said, she's less safe on block in general. Standing medium kick from 0 to -2 hurts her but hopefully as long as you space it to max range it's still pretty safe.
The reduced knockback on crush counter for st.hk is nice for when you don't have v-trigger, meaning she can finally get a bit more out of that.
In general she got a lot of 10/20 damage nerfs.
They really just don't want you using qcb.mk straight up.
Seems to be a bit more reward on landing some of her stuff, meter wise and more damage on her rekkas.

I dunno honestly. They covered one of her biggest problems, but knocked her damage and made her a bit less safe. Overall I'd say, without having played her yet, that the changes will alter how she's played a bit but with a bit of adjustment I don't think it'll be a huge nerf. Could be a bit weaker or a bit better depending on how you play her?

RumChicken
RumChicken

those cammy buffs for no reason whatsoever
JUST

I wish kof14 had a healthy player population

DeathDog
DeathDog

How many SF5 players does it take to change a lightbulb?

Illusionz
Illusionz

reduce input lag
everyones gonna be slower across the board
holy fucking crayola are you shitting me cuckcom

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I feel like an air-to-air is not a big enough equalizer for her other buffs. But I do believe they gave her 50 health which is a pretty great buff.

Evilember
Evilember

no Ryu top 8 Evo
no Ryu top 16 Capcom Cup
despite the two best 2D FG players of all time maining Ryu
explain this

StonedTime
StonedTime

We need 3D fighters back more than ever. Capcom's cancer is killing 2D.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

People complain you can't whiff punish in SFV for shit
They make numerous changes to make it so you can, such as reducing input delay and adding more frames to moves
FUCK YOU CAPCOM DO SOMETHING RIGHT!

Every time.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

sfv is kusoge

Techpill
Techpill

Tokido is the ultimate choke artist and Daigo is going through another phase of being an A tier player instead of an S tier player.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Well before air to air was her most reliable option but if you went air to air every time they land you'd get 50/50 grab or DP so it wasn't exactly a great thing. I think the reason for the st.mk nerf is because you have a reliable way to keep them from jumping over you constantly so if st.mk was too safe and easy you could just pin them in the corner and air to air them every time they tried anything with impunity.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

you make whiff punishing easier by adding more whiff recovery to normals, not adding more startup.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

daigo made top 16

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

kof generally has much more broken shit and bigger discrepancies between characters.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Reminder that our guy Max hates the idea of making fighters "accessible"

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I'm confused. Is the S2 patch live now? I'm not at home so can't check. I thought it was coming later.

StonedTime
StonedTime

He's pretty good. The fact that Neofaggers hate him is even better.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Balrog's screw smash being a DP motion is going to be so powerful if EX still has armor

Methshot
Methshot

Not necessarily, clearly. I'm glad you're not the one balancing if you think a blanket rule like that should be applied.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The rest of that video was weird but I liked him talking on that point. The comment section is great for it too cause they have no idea what they are talking about so they don't know if they agree or disagree

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

make normals have MORE startup
that makes whiff punishing easier

I'm sure itll be easier to whiff punish with Ryu's new 8f sweep than trying to whiff punish with his old 7f sweep.

likme
likme

I don't disagree, but it's been a fun game to learn while being continually burned out from SFV.

WebTool
WebTool

So...Karin fucking nerfed to hell?

Just when she finally gets a good costume?

Is this game even worth playing?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

notable gorilla normals are deleted
the jab anti air does not seem universal which is confusing unless they did not specifically mention it for all characters. jumping seems worse/fair(?)

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Vesper said Chun's health was decreased to 875, I don't see any mentions of it anywhere in the patch notes, was he lying? Or is the final build different from that leaked build?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

She's not nerfed to hell. They gave her a few significant improvments and a bunch of small down tweeks.

Evilember
Evilember

THIS GAME SUCKS

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Or is the final build different from that leaked build?
ding ding

Playboyize
Playboyize

I'm glad I'm not a Birdie player anymore...

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

lol why do they hate him?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

suxx*
which game user

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Which video is this anyway? I vaguely remember him putting out something about that some months back.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Is this game even worth playing
It never was.

Illusionz
Illusionz

because he is the wielder of the fabled nigger dagger

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

veekyforums.com/thread/163243754/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/163243754/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/163243754/video-games

w8t4u
w8t4u

Did they seriously remove invincible reversals from half the cast?

Methshot
Methshot

Put Superior Spider-ma or at least his Costume in MvCi

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

melee

Playboyize
Playboyize

You can't and shouldn't try to balance for bronze. As a silver my input is entirely irrelevant. Only good players have any sort of relevant opinion on balance.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

/akuma/ when?

FastChef
FastChef

you forgot a bunch of shit

less range on overhead
slower startup on st.mk and cr.mk (his best pokes)
forward hp even more punishable on block now
HP reduced by 25

even if you disregard the fat damage nerfs that hit at least half his moves - his neutral game got destroyed super hard, and i don't understand why the fuck they did it.
never played in tournaments
rarely played online
most people rated him a mediocre character at best
birdie was not even close to being overpowered. he wasn't even a strong character. why the fuck did they nerf him into the ground?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Dr doom