/svg/ - Shadowverse General

>Dshift will remain cancer forever
>no 9+ cost card will ever be playable because of it

No hope.

Reminder to remove elf

Do people just need to get good?

>Elena, PTP, and DShift whiners BTFO
>They actually believed nerfs were coming

its already good tho

Cygames is lying to us about the data or they're making some kind of mistake.

>use exe on 2 elanas
>lmao third
>heal once
>you lose
Epic counter

>No nerf for Elana and Aria

Okay, that's it. Who's else gonna switch to Hearthstone here?? At least Blizzard listened to their players on how to balanced a game

/svg/, a lot of you seem to fancy yourselves as being better than the devs at understanding game balance right now. So tell me, what nerfs did you have in mind?

They should have nerfed Erika's thighs.

To be fair, they did buff going 1st by releasing useful 4 drop without evo like Amelia and 5 drop with strong evolve effect like Feena.

This just means everyone salty will jump into either of the classes.

Hope you like playing against mirrors.

9+ for a wincon is too slow regardless if you're fighting against dshift or not

That's part of the package when it comes to playing control or decks that lost to Seraph. Your deck should be built around what you think you're most likely to play.

Tell me /svg/, how many of you actually thought they'd nerf anything before the post expansion meta-game settles a bit? They fucking made some of these cards to counter a lot of shit people complain about and yet some of you faggots actually expected them to nerf shit before they can even see if their ideas worked.

>Elana Seraph is only good because no one attempts to counter it, because its not even tier one
>its not even tier one

how long till meta stable after expac kick in?

Remove Haven from the game

>believing shadowlog over official statistics
I'm pretty sure anyone who recorded their own w/l ratio knows it isn't that bad

>/svg/ cries about balance all the time
>they were just shitters all along

>because no one attempts to counter it
how can someone be so clueless about the meta
stop fucking talking about balance if you're under aa1

Why people always cry for nerfs and never ask for buffs instead?
its always about bringing others down and not about helping weak
really makes you think

People are just stupid. If there were any nerfs they would have been announced a while ago.

Give Haven a non-hag female leader and I'd hate losing to them less.

Counters? Oh, you mean Sword to Woodlands? Or Rites of Exorcism, which tries hard to be a class Execution?

No, I believe my own game records.

>sword got hit a bit from RoB
>haven continues to murder the game
BRAVO
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3 week last time was a month

But it's balanced, muh data :^)

git gud elana shitters

> NTR is a Patrician Fetish

muh fukken nigga

what do you think itou eight will release this comiket?

Elana buffing +1/+0 instead of +1/+1.
DShift ending the turn and recycling your hand when it is cast.
Aria costing 3 pp.
Olivia giving 2 ep instead of 3.
PtP costing 5 pp.

Fascinating creature, The crab

Stop playing decks that are built around going second then

Are you surprised? This general is full of A0 whiners.

Jesus Christ, card games players are crybabies

source on your image

Becasuse that's the average data.

Problem here is the advantage is deck specific.
Look at sword decks, the difference for them is far more significant. Look at dirt rune with 12% difference.

I'm AA2. Elana Seraph isn't good. It loses to too many frequent decks that don't need to run Odin, and the matchups you can and should win can be lost because someone dexided to tech in Odin.

>master rank
>going first
>has 6% less chance to win against the opponent
>this is totally fine

this game is built around going second, not the decks

how has sword been hit? all ove seen is that goblin slayer shit card

id say 2 weeks but in SV, it takes forever for meta to be stable.

Reposting it here
>We’d like to supplement this by explaining that we used the word “stressful” in order to explain our policy of ensuring that abilities can’t easily interfere with a player’s hand or cards.
I don't understand why people avoid wanting to interact with your opponent's hand. From my experience, it puts another layer of depth into the game. People would also complain about dshift less.

>not getting good

Every class got a board clear

I won't deny its power at lower ranks though. I got to AA0 with Seraph Haven and like a 17 game streak, but that's because players there don't really know how to play against it.

Then why were going 2nd players getting btfo hard when they only drew 1 card

not that guy but itou eight boku hero academia

DE meta took a while actually. And some decks like Elena Seraph took a really long time I think

How do you play against it? Tell me.

Ptp is tier 2 now. Why play ptp when you can play dshift or elana seraph. Before de ptp was more resistant to aggro but DE buffed aggro and dshift by a lot and nerfed homecoming. Ptp now dies to bats banner haven dragon all the time.

it's down from first player having 10% advantage, so it's going in the right direction. Definitely have to wait and see how RoB cards affect it

s-source?

the only decks elana seraph loses to in reality and statistically are dshift and aggro decks (which nobody plays on AA)

after de it took like 2 months
im giving it another 2 months

>I play this deck, btw it's not op ;^)

Dank

Don't blindly netdeck master decks since they have to worry about different matchups than you do.

What the fuck happened to the (You)'s? I can be arsed to scroll to check people replying to shit I wrote.

just deal 20 dmg in one turn :^)

git gud shitter! lmao AA ctfu fucking shitter git gud lmfao

The big winner of this expansion? Neutralcraft

>Just ignore the minions and hit them in the face bro

>play a card that "discards the opponent's highest cost card" against shadow
>they bring it back turn 5 with Ceridwen
>it's Mordecai
I wish that was how Ceridwen worked. I'm pretty sure she can't bring discarded cards back.

PtP Snow is a trash deck that gets dumpstered easily by aggro but it feels really good to cuck an Elanafag out of a win, even if they have 2 Elanas on board.

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Balor.
Breath of the Salamander.
Maahes.
Bloodhungry Matriarch.
And Lucius.

Mid sword is hard fucked, for the seemingly approving attitude they have of the pre-RoB meta they sure were thorough in making sure they took a steaming shit on us. Worst is that it's going to be laughably impossible to establish a strong board post 5-6 now, and building the board is the only thing we had going for us in mid/control.

>just themis my dude

>according to cygames, all classes have equal amount of played games

That's bullshit and you know it. I rarely got a mirror match here at Rank AA.

just play rune and bring 3 petrification and odins lmao

If Neutralcraft actually becomes good then people won't need decks of all classes for missions anymore which means less vials and stuff needed. I don't think Cygames would want that.

She can indeed bring discarded cards back, as they count as being "destroyed", as they turn into shadows

It's like everyone just forgot about Enhance.

The scary thing is there's a very slight chance of this happening thanks to Mary + Azazel.

>Play Hearthstone during the maintenance
>Only now realize that im playing Wild

remember when say ptp is done for, Dshift 37%, bricked in aggro bat, and midrange a deck without wincon. Literally every decks is viable in expansion.

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>Updating Shadowverse
So it downloaded RoB? Time to re-undub?
Also. How do you rip the art and voices?

Explain.

Shadow Witch is better than Odin.

OH ABLOO BLOO BLOO

Midsword literally had no bad matchups this entire expansion and it deserved nerfs more than anyone else.

Next Shadowcraft Legendary
10PP
5/5
Necromancy 1: Deal 1 damage to a random enemy. Repeat for remaining shadows.

Will this save Shadow?

>shitton of pedos come into the game to play luna
>realize her craft is shit and switches to a better craft after
>equal amount of games across all ranks

Thanks. Didn't realize it was by itou eight

Mid is likely fucked, but on the bright side, non-banner Face might be better now

Balor is not going to be able to do a thing against a school of fishes.

>implying you shitters cannot just play otomeme back to back until they stick

You get Amelia as well, which discourages others to try a flood tactic at you.

It's kind of the whole "not fun" thing. A combo player probably doesn't want their set up to be yanked out of their hand after they spent so long preparing it.
Discard is also just better in this game compared to something like mtg because mtg has lands that you can pitch to non targeted discard. Not sure if targeted discard like duress or thoughtseize would be too good in this game, probably needs a cost bump just because 1 for 1 trades are coated higher in the game.
Thoughts?

this

in a1 atm and my games are
>90% elana
>7% ptp elf
>2% dshift
>1% everything else

I switched to Shadow after hitting AA0 because it's clear you hit a wall at this point. I was probably the first person on this thread really talking about the deck when nobody even cared about it a month ago, but it was strong then precisely only because people didn't know about it. You guys have no excuse.