First for Atsuro is purest and most perfect SMT waifu
Dylan Lee
Holy fuck this is terrible. Frame rate is pretty bad, too.
Gavin Peterson
Imagine if Atsuro was in SMTIV.
Was he the Neutral Heroine in Devil Survivor? He never left your side, unlike Yoohoo.
Jackson James
He's a bitch that got NTR'd by Abel.
Jace Williams
you haven seen shit nigga
Nathaniel Reyes
It gets worse? I figured it would get better after learning skills and getting weapons.
Lincoln Carter
>A Drakengard/Nier game >bad That's all of them except for Platinum's
Leo Lopez
You get to fly a cool dragon around that can fuck shit up, more weapons and allies.
Leo Scott
drakengard is easily one of the worst games I've ever played
John James
/smtg/ - Drakengard general
Luis Robinson
Yoko doing a SMT game would be great
;)
Nathan Price
at least we have a discussion now going on lel
Easton Martinez
/caviagen/ is back boys. DoD is the future of /smtg/. Posting best intoner.
Parker Stewart
now that is shit taste if i ever seen some
David Jones
Well I mean, Yoko Taro asked Atlus for a job. Who knows, we might get a Shin Megami Tensei x Drakengard type game like TMS#FE.
Gabriel Cruz
This is the future of SMT guys
Connor King
Smt go when?
Dylan Campbell
You're the one that's posting the worst SMT protag, not me. What's so remarkable about Candy Crush?
Adrian Cruz
>pokemon go That was fun, for like, a month. >metroid Shit. >candy crush saga Shit. >dragon quest builders A better minecraft but still shit. >battlefield 1 It's okay.
Who knows. I'm still waiting for my Megaten x Musou game after Koei showed interest in the franchise.
Henry Rodriguez
I can't, I've already voted.
Joshua Brooks
Didn't Atlus (both the Persona and SMT teams) tell them they were interested in it too?
Jack Murphy
>TMS#FE.
thiskillthesmt
Landon Martin
2016 was a shit year to be honest.
Ryan Brooks
...
Gabriel Reed
>the new 2017 game turns out to be a Megaten themed Musou game
Would you be fine with this, /smtg/?
Ryder James
Hopefully its not stuck on the Switch
But since its musou its probably going to be on PC
Joseph Sullivan
Maybe? I like musous but you know half the playable characters are going to be from Persona 3/4/5.
Jose Turner
I want MegaTen themed Dissidia and Theatrhythm games, but I'd be okay with a Musou game too.
I hope it's on the switch. It'd give me a reason to buy one.
Henry Lewis
who is the faggot with the pantsu in the head
Robert Wright
as long as i get piercy, demidork, maya and raidou id be happy
Cameron Green
I am going to play as the best girl, Nozomi
Hunter Mitchell
>It'd give me a reason to buy one. Why would you want to buy Nintendo's latest under powered gimmick fest?
Blake Bell
Life can be cruel, but not THAT much.
All things considered, Tecmo doesn't go full retard when choosing a roster for their fanservice games; although I would expect a lot of Persona DLC.
Oliver Morgan
Because I know there's going to be at least 1 games I'm gonna want on it, and knowing myself, I'll buy it for that 1 game. It helps if there are more games that I'll want on it.
It's nice having money to spend on things.
Liam Gray
Money was a mistake.
Nathan Campbell
Living was a mistake
Carson Nguyen
not listening to the white was a mistake
Cooper Davis
Listening to them just created DEMONIC GENE and -Prayers-.
Joshua Johnson
ascribing value to the white was a mistake
Connor Gutierrez
>this question kys
Lincoln Adams
>20XX >creating gods from concepts
Grayson Cox
What?
Colton Foster
Soooo, why aren't there Persona users in the mainline games? We know that Devil Summoners and Persona users exist in the same universes, thanks to Persona 2's inclusion of Kyouji Kuzunoha and Tamaki Uchida. There shouldn't be anything stopping Persona users from existing in say, SMTIV, right?
Fuck, the differences between Demons and Personas is confusing. Demons are created by observation, groups of people believing them into existence, and Personas come from the Sea of Souls, or collective unconsciousness. In Persona Q, it was said that being like Chronos were formed by humanity's ideas about higher beings controlling the workings of the world.
I'm confusing myself more. Shadows are also essentially the same thing as Personas, except they're wild and untamed. Guess that explains why Demons come out of Shadows in Persona 5 and turn into Personas. Huh, I guess that explains why you can negotiate with Demons in P1/2 and summon Personas with their cards.
Wait. Didn't Eternal Punishment say something about it? Something to do with the Magnetite rock in Seven Sisters High School.
Asher Williams
>muh autistic continuity pls stop
Easton Perez
And on that note.
The Atma Virus brings out a person's true self, and unlike the Red Pills, Avatar Tuners can turn back into humans. They're essentially the same thing, only the virus is more effective.
David Evans
>an avatar tuner is the same thing as a persona user Call me when a Persona user can shapeshift into a Persona, and back again, on demand. Also, call me when Persona users suffer from a crippling cannibalistic hunger that turns them into mindless beasts unless sated regularly.
Angel Adams
But can they contain their hunger? Even the Karma Society knows this is a big issue.
Jace Flores
Amta AVatars are more Cannibal Personas. The demon is built into your dna as part of your incarnation.
The Four Archangels, Satan, etc. had been in DDS for a good number of years as they're scientists before the virus awakened them. Cept Satan chilling in the Sun.
Wyatt Price
A physical manifestation of a persona happend in the old persona games. Shiori even got possessed by a rogue persona/demon Wendigo in Tatsuya's scenario.
Jackson Perry
I want to eat Sera.
I was under the impression that the Satan, Seth, Vishnu, Shiva and what-not in the Sun were the real deal, and that only the ones on Earth were "fake".
Dylan Young
That's not what I said nigger. An avatar tuner is the same thing as a human who took red pills. Which would be kind of like what happened to Shiori Miyashiro in Eternal Punishment, who turned into a Wendigo. She was not a persona user, but a human turned demon.
Basically, some humans end up turning into their true selves, as demons, and others can summon them as Personas instead.
Demons need to consume magnetite to keep their corporeal form, which is why they hunt humans (and eat red pills). Avatar Tuners need it to stay in control. They'll never satisfy their hunger.
Nathan Bailey
It's still not even remotely the same thing. A physical manifestation, or a possession, is not the same as shapeshifting INTO a demon. Especially not when said ability comes with the aforementioned ravenous hunger.
Nolan Lewis
No they reincarnate. All things are reincarnate.
There's even a Cu Chulainn in the Junkyard who doesn't know if he should embrace being a pretty white man, be bleck like the rest of the Solids, or find a new identity due to the being inside him thar's awakened.
Nathan Hill
She rejected the awakening of her persona and forcing an artificial awakening is what lead to that. Red Pills turn people into random demons unless you have a connection with said demon. Minako tells you this and it's why she ate three Ishtar related demon souls in IV.
Avatar Tuners eat for Magnetite just like demons do, and the gods in persona sustain their existence via the magnetite given off by humans via their beliefs.
P5's Villain whole plan is based around using said belief to fuel his existence. Even stuffing a bunch of aether born of human emotions together can manifest them.
An avatar is as much a part of you as a persona, because everything is Data. Even the soul.
Asher Rogers
>Red Pills turn people into random demons unless you have a connection with said demon. Right, similar to how the Atma Virus can turn people into random demons (the random encounters you find), or certain special demons like the main characters and the archangels.
Aaron Johnson
Whats the Thuata De?
Julian Garcia
No the Atma turns them into the demon whose data is part of their very being. Thus their true self. That data is part of them from the moment they're born as part of the cycle of metempsychosis.
Easton Nguyen
This true self talk reminds me of a girl on the Smite forums who was fully convinced she was the reincarnation of the Egyptian goddess Neith. People these days try to hard to be special.
Jackson Gutierrez
If it makes you feel better she's probably one of the generics like Ghoul/Preta/Slime/Angel/Etc. that are the majority.
Connor Wright
The name of the submarine in FMP
Luke Harris
Why is smt4 so fucking boring
Justin Cox
because the lawfag is boring
Isaiah Reed
johnny is a cuteboy you can fuck off failure of a messiah
Matthew Sanders
because the game was made for a gimped ass platform
Robert Cook
Because Atlus's A-teams were working on DeSu, P5, and EOU and 2U.
Ian Powell
Because Navarre isn't a main character
Dylan Ward
I feel betrayed
Julian Nelson
lawful guys playing games? law people don't really do fun, how is that possible?
Isaiah Young
But law is the most fun. Unless your definition of fun is being killed by an oni two minutes from your front door for no reason in particular.
Grayson Rivera
what fun stuff do law people do?
Blake Gutierrez
The same things most people do, but without having to take time out for wars, to starve to death, or getting in arbitrary fights with people they know due to having anger management issues? Those negatives are replaced with having a closer connection with people you know, since you are more ordered to unity. You can probably have buttsex with your m8 without it being weird.
Jace Thompson
Should I take multi target spells or stronger single target ones in SMT4A?
ie should I pick Mazio or Zionga?
Jonathan Thomas
Zionga. Never take multi target spells unless they're physical/almighty.
Tyler Wright
would recreational sex really be allowed in a society ruled by law?
Chase Lopez
Playing SMT IV at the moment. Is it better to teach demons as many different elemental spells as possible? Or is it better to let them focus on a single element and fill the rest with passives? Also, do pleroma and high pleroma skills stack?
Caleb Mitchell
They stack.
And it doesn't matter. SMT4 is as ez as most SMT and you'll be throwing away and overwriting skills constantly. Having multiple flavors of magic for press turns and smirk is incredibly strong though.
That's a case by case question, really. Not often are you always going to have a passives vs multiple flavors of spells fusion choice, and some passives are better than others, and lower tier damage spells are almost useless once you've tiered away from them even if you get a free turn out of them.
Nathaniel Cooper
>and lower tier damage spells are almost useless once you've tiered away from them even if you get a free turn out of them Are they really? I've read that the only difference between the spell tiers is the base damage. And with enough Ma Agi hits just as hard as Agidyne for a lot less MP.
Joseph Gray
That could be true but over the course of a normal game you aren't going to be getting that huge a magic stat variance on your demons. I defer to expert number crunchers in that regard then.
Justin Price
Lawfags are only against degeneracy, and birth-control methods.
Lucas Williams
Yes, but only if its not done in any risky ways that could lead to problems that they didn't calculate to be worth the risk. As strange as it might seem, remember that the only character in series we see cracking down on sex is lucifer. And in a social system where everyone is arranged to take care of everyone, and less jealous, certain problems would have the consequences heavily mitigated
Evan Barnes
>Lucifer cracking down on sex What? When?
Juan Long
Why do physical skills take MP in 4 and 4A as opposed to the rest of the series?
Adrian Jackson
In SMTII, when you fight crowley. He is bitching that he is so horny because he wanted to have an orgy and it was the perfect day for one since it was a full moon, but lucifer forbade it. So he will let off his aggression by killing you. And transforms into master therion.
Kayden Stewart
Strange Journey did it too.
Charles Taylor
That wouldn't be a problem if physical demons actually had any MP.
Nathan Myers
It's still dumb to have to deal with incredibly tiny mana pools for your characters if they still need mana to do their skills.
Owen Perry
no mt1/2 no voting
Elijah Butler
>people bitching that megaten is getting worse >the newer games are higher rated.
Dominic Bailey
>dragon horde has 4 reinforcements Does it ever end, I just wanted to level grind off of some slightly above my level demons.
Sebastian White
That there That's not me I go Where I please I walk through walls I float down the Liffey
Leo Davis
People are all bland robots in Law and don't enjoy any of it and only do it to serve a purpose.
That is if the Lawfaqs in charge haven't already altered them with demon genes, standing on a pillar singing gods praises 24/7 for all eternity, being offered as rape brides to evil fqction bug people, turned into the elite chosen Lawfags that will live under the sun with the Atma virus and the Cyber Shaman to keep them from going crazy, or YHVH just going fuck it and having Satan kill everyone anyways.
Alexander Edwards
>People are all bland robots in Law and don't enjoy any of it and only do it to serve a purpose.
Yeah, that's not a thing. Demons think not being able to fuck over other people and amass infinite personal wealth may as well be that, but there's no actual indication that that's what the people are actually like. Even angels look diverse and clearly have different personalities and personal aesthetics, much less the humans who are never made as much into a group mind as angels are. Of course they enjoy it, since them enjoying it -is- the purpose. Their world is structured to focus on benefiting people happiness wise and preventing suffering as opposed to focusing on "muh license to be an asshole."
In fact, once experiencing a law world it would probably be considered intense suffering or disappointment to go back to anything else. Not just because there is no longer an assurance of being taken care of that frees up worry for your own interests, but because spite is reintriduced to people in a way that will make opening up to eachother less common, and people will go back to being closed off and distant from eachother. So if anything many people are missing out on experiences of being closer with eachother that are simply not as common when you're not in a law world that makes it more intuitive to not close yourself off. Its the people in neutral worlds who aren't really experiencing the best life has to offer.
Leo Harris
I want a world shaped by the strong with a meritocracy system
Levi Perez
Demonica or Samurai Attire?
Ian Lewis
You won't experience such a world because you'd be unworthy and dead, and you can be creeped out by soulless, tasteless drones without being a dumb demon or chaos.
In a Law world you are ignorant to your suffering, typically because anything that can make you realize it is gone.
And angels have had pretty bland personalities unless they're the leaders of the faction or the Yosuga loving ones.
Not to mention Demons are still angelz regardless of falling, so of course they have plenty of personality as Chaosretards.
And the dumb Neutralfaggot Fiend Angels join Lucy half the time for Muh Chaos against Law despite working for God.
Justin Bell
I want a world where I'm alone.
Ryan Hughes
>You won't experience such a world because you'd be unworthy and dead,
So? I'm talking about what's best overall, not what's best for me. In fact, you're making a mistake. Why are we assuming that I'm living right at the time its set up? People born after the fact are obviously born into the existing law world. From a veil of ignorance, a law world moving indefinitely into the future maximizes your likely benefits.
>you can be creeped out by soulless, tasteless drones without being a dumb demon or chaos.
You tend to be less so though once you drop the status quo bias and realize that [exactly like humans already are] isn't the pinnacle of how existence could be, and that something seeming alien doesn't make it bad.
>In a Law world you are ignorant to your suffering, typically because anything that can make you realize it is gone.
I think you meant to say aren't having suffering. You may be ignorant of the fact that use can use muh demonic knowledge to fuck over people for your own gain, but that only increases total suffering, so this is a good thing. Whyever would it be a "bad" thing to live in a world where things like rape, etc are literally unthinkable and instead of having those kinds of thoughts people have more beneficial ones? They aren't not having thoughts. They're just not having retarded shortsighted selfish ones.
>And angels have had pretty bland personalities
Based on what? Their designs are as varied as chaos demons, and they even have different skincolors. If anything chaos demons seem to have more monotonous personalities, since most of them seem all about "muh violence" and impulsivity. Since they live in a paradigm where -everyone- has to be strong enough to not have thier shit wrecked they have less time to focus on other things. In a law world this issue does not exist. So there's nothing impeding specialization in the sense your personal contribution brings. The different angels are all associated with different things.