Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

'BOUT DAMN TIME edition

>What's new?
Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) on PTR next week, release following week
us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/zuljin/

youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0 youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68

>Weekly Sale
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407269/weekly-sale-jan-3-10-2017-1-3-2017

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you SOPPING DOE ______ loving faggots?
/join Veeky Forums

>Current weekly brawl:
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20409787/silver-city-12-30-2016

>Latest patch notes:
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407399/12-20-2016

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
hotslogs.com/Default
heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previously on /hotsg/:

>Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) on PTR next week, release following week
kek

Friendly reminder to post region and b.net tag if you actually want last-minute help with the Genji skin.

oh right
isn't he releasing tomorrow

nah

friendly reminder to eat shit
>doing shit last minute
typical genji player

You got it all wrong.

Genji players would be the ones to charge in first and die.

This is frustrating. Xul didn't show up to first team tribute, but even though we didn't get tribute, the enemy team got greedy and got wiped.

Then he acted like a smug cunt and called me a shitter for saying he should've been at tribute when it was spawning.

Was he right? Was I a shitter? I don't know any more. On one hand, the enemy team was really bad.

Need to watch replay. But it sounds like miscommunication and a gamble. The gamble paid off, but no thanks to him.

>match loads up
>"i pick falstad"
>is shit the whole game
>tell everyone to chill because everyone collectively loses their shit at every opportunity
>we lose
>"gg i report u all for offensive :)"

>xul
>cursed hollow

Questionable.

It could've definitely been worth it if he was smashing the shit out of a lane or two, though.

>"im saving this recording and sending it to blizzard :)"

who and what are these people lmao

Obviously getting the tribute, wiping the enemy and getting lane xp is better than getting the tribute and wiping the enemy. So he's right.

However expecting your team to win 4v5 just so you can push what, a wall, is beyond greedy and most of the time plain stupid and wrong, so you're right.

So take your pick. At the end of the day if you get away with being greedy, it's better than not being greedy.

>play auriel
>entire team going to get comboed by well placed ring of frost
>aegis myself to prevent from getting deleted
>dps dies instantly
>"WTF AURIEL U SHIT UR SO BAD OMG LOL GG I AFK LOL"

>doesn't derive satisfaction from abuse

why are you playing support lmao

because i'm a cuck who is forced to fill because i am in gold and get matched with shitboys like me

i wish the healslut meme would die already

>gold

stop playing auriel

why would you save yourself? you're fucking useless without a team, at least if you managed to save an assassin they could clear some waves while waiting for the rest of you shitters

I'm also fucking useless while dead

So you're useless either way, but you choose the option that made sure everyone else is useless too.

Also I was against Rehgar/Thrall so we never stood a chance really.

lmao what a shitter
>this is what bronzies actually believe

did u guys know u can do vs ai in under 2 minutes if u have raynor, illidan, sgt hammer, sylvanas in team. probably even faster with abathur as 5th. you can probably even do a vs ai match in 1:30 on maps where you can skip 2 towers and gate

well now you know

My record is 1.50 with Sylvanas, hammer, raynor, Auriel and I think it was dehaka.

Okay. I feel a bit better.

Ugh. This whole day has been bad games. I finally got Chen to 10, but now I don't even feel like I am good enough for his Master Skin.

Especially since apparently Diablo and Artanis got buffed to the point that me playing him is super fucking rough.

Repeating digits say we will get non-Warcraft characters for a change.

Yeah, of course.

And on Tower's of Doom just leave a person to defend each captured structure.

>all these people who waited until the last minute panicking to get it done

Ehehehe. Every time.

Dibbles'll get nerfed soon. No idea about Artanis. Hope he gets deleted, desu.

>infernal shrines
>alternating between top and mid or mid and bot on xul
>objective spawns
>show up to win or lose
>leave as soon as one of the above is clear
>get two sets of towers and a bunch of fort ammo while the first punisher tears down part of a wall

Xul can cause games like that to spiral out of control really, really easily.

Yes you're right. I have a 100% lose/win rate when EQ/BL is in the game. Whoever has it wins, and I never get to ban so it's usually the other team.

Shit strats work in shit MMR games, who knew!

How do I Alarak?
I just hit the combo into a liming and she just walked away from me afterwards and killed me when the silence ended

I want to try my placement again after that debacle that ended up with me at Rank 38 (which fuck knows, might be my real rank).

These are my top played heroes (well, kind of, by level at least). The supports I feel comfortable playing are BW, Morales and Malf. I used to play Rehgar back when he was a healbot with wolf as an escape.

Any tips about who to pick when I am stuck first picking? In general, I feel most comfortable as tank.

Diablo already was nerfed, I wouldnt expect many more

How's Leoric in the current meta, and what's the talents he's good picking?

They didn’t stop with Greymane until he was dead

He's in the "not optimal" tier and only really counters high HP heroes and sustained fights. I guess he can be drafted as a second tank against a comp with Diablo or Muradin.

You build for "give me as much sustain as possible" or making your spooky swing/hand more powerful. Take March only when the other team has a lot of AOE CC like EQ or Graviton or Ring of Frost, etc.

>R onto squishy
>Q them, W if necessary
>E

Does this not instantly kill Valla, Li-Ming and Chromie?

Yeah, go for it. Who cares where you place? Just play whatever you enjoy and try your best.

>first pick

Ideally/theoretically stuff that's easily countered, like Illidan or Chen. It doesn't really matter, but try to keep it in mind.

Quick question, why isn't the version of Diablo in the very first trailer not even in the game?

Because they're slow as shit with releasing stuff.

I could've sworn they recently mentioned it would be soon, though.

Because D3 Diablo a shit compared to D2 Diablo.

soon

Also because Diablo 2 fags wouldn't have been pleased, and every other diablo hero in the game is from D3 except necro..

Because they can wait and charge $15 for it later.

necro is also a diablo 3 character. more than half of him anyway.

Xul himself isn't in D3, it's the Necromancer from D2. Only his shit apprentices and seen in D3. The DLC hero coming out is some original character literally who.

Greymane's loss came from Blizzard's misguided attempts to make people pick his not-worgen ult not by making it better but by nerfing his worgen form until it was worthless.

And then nerfing the human form ultimate so it was even worse than before.

Weren't they also trying his push his worgen builds because people were only interested in building ranged/aa and cocktail?

Which useless talent would you fix by making it a quest talent?

Is devil's due a meme? I keep seeing devil's due posters here, but i kinda feel like bulwark is the better talent. Life leech seems like shit on diablo.

I'm very nooby though. obviously. Also fuck you all itls literally harder for me to play this fucking game or any other game for tha tmatter cuz i'm retarded and my mouse clicks twice and my s key often presses w and i have a drinking problem.

Check every major streamer game they ALWAYS pick bulwark and lets be honest most people here are gold.

What about the talents that are already useless like all the regen globe ones?

I'm playing my placement matches atm and no one ever picks a healer so I'm forced to do it and it sucks ass to play it every game.

And double specialists every game leading into no teamfighting potential and a lost game.

Fuck you last game's Azmodan you piece of shit did nothing.

Yes he is

its great on certain maps against certain comps. Towers for example, it's amazing.

So is Zul'jin on live or PTR tomorrow?

According to spanish and polish blizz posters tomorrow.

Live, they even posted on facebook

>You want axe? Zul'jin, Warlord of the Amani, enters the Nexus with tomorrow's patch!

First post of their facebook.

if you combo it with the regen talent later you have ridiculous sustain

>Azmodan's E damage when used on Heroes
>W mana cost without Army of Hell at 4
>Q without putting literally every talent into it and taking Black Pool

didn't he already get a """rework""" and wasn't it even worse than gazlowes

I found out that Grounding Brew isn't enough to take Azmodan's E today.

Azmodan's laser mostly needs a change. I feel as if it should have a tiny or no cooldown if you cancel it yourself. But a large cooldown if you get cancelled (silenced, stun etc) It should be 1. a zoning skill, where you constantly laser shit in your area, sort-of like area denial or simply just hitting lots of shit. 2. anti-structure (as it is already)

It needs a rework as it is, though. The only main issue is the cooldown situation. His dunk is pre' gud as it is and his minion (W) could perhaps use a slight buff. Perhaps slightly larger health, additional charge and slightly lower mana--just small stuff.

March of Sin ought to be baseline. The laser is downright worthless in a fight without that talent.

You also ought to be able to use more abilities while channeling the laser, like at the very least summon demon warriors.

Agreed. Should be able to use everything except for dunk while lasering. Good point.

I also feel as if his trait is more-or-less spot-on. Easy to kill, but great damage if left alone. Having a trait or two baseline are very good considerations too. Especially since Azmo is extremely level/talent dependant.

heroes of the storm NA pro player

Pls no.

Are they done nerfing rag cause jesus christ

>mfw going pure blast wave build on him with heroic difficulty

would u guys nail faye or oddish?

clips twitch tv/oddishplaysgames/KindSpiderPazPazowitz

look at her she is so qt, and those childbearing hips mmmm...
i like faye more even tho oddish is hottter, woudl love a 3some with these goddesses of hots

that's a guy
what the fuck

I'm looking for an assassin that is amazing at ganking but is not Nova or Kerrigan. Suggestions?

faye's voice is so cute but i cannot bring myself to fug transgender.

wow medivh is fun as heck

non stop q and 2v1ing low health nubs

This shit is next?

But it's not gay when he's a girl.

Is it worth getting Purifier Artanis solely because he reminds me of Fulgore?

This game looks good.
Why we can't have a wc4 with the host engi?

>wanting Warcraft 4
>made by modern blizz

thats some monkey's paw shit

warcraft 4 would be great

blizzard has fucked up enough times now, I think they'd do it justice. UNLESS they made an original story. Then it would blow.

what else would they do besides an original story? turn every WoW expansion into an RTS campaign?

They can start where wc3 ends and we can pretend that WoW didn't happen.

what were they THINKING with this map?

>turn every WoW expansion into an RTS campaign?
Yeah, pretty much. There are some decent stories in WoW; being able to show them through the eyes of important characters instead of a random player hero would make them even better. I'd play a campaign where you defend Illidan with Illidari forces in one mission and/or build a grand invasion on Icecrown.

They could do what the comic book industry and retcon the universe every few years just to sell a new rehash.

LETS SEE IF YOU CAN HANDLE

TWO

CHEST

AT

ONE!!!


fucking ants

>Get MVP game after game
>Still lose

Why the hell should I lose rank when the game is outright telling me it's my teammates fault that I lose

>inb4 clever "me ooga team booga" comments

>childbearing hips
>Faye/Oddish
I see what you did here. Still, I hope you die for spreading this filth.

>finally save up 10k to buy medivh today
>he's free
every fucking time

>wanted to try Tychus for a month now
>he's never in rotation
>too jew to spend 4k gold in case I don't like him after all

I'm currently saving for Dehaka. When was the last time he was free?

>Our thrall takes grace of air instead of giant killer
>with two healers on the team
>against cho'gall

I just can't wrap my head around people in this game.

Hey....


HEEEEEY.

Regen globe is useful on glaz if going pve build.

His favorite streamer said that build is good so he is doing it every game

what rank do i need this season to get the mount?

What should I buy?

Platinum in Hero League.

Bronze in Team League/Flex.

I think, anyways. That's how it was last season.

Make them less useless, like Rag's.
Only 15 globes requirement at most.

ok i should get placed there again

I always wondered in all their reworks of talents nobody ever used, why they had it for Sgt Hammer still in its current state. Hell I would actually take a replacement where any pick up would gravitate towards her during siege mode and within siege range. At a certain speed of course.

I need 6 games for the nexus challenge second tier, my asshole friend signed up with me just to get genji then left me to dry.

tedbo #1505.

I like playing pushers, assassins, and tanks in that order. been on a samuro binge lately.

>grinding medivh to lvl 5 for free shekels

I have teamspeak 3 and discord as well.

do /join nexuschallenge