Dota 2 General - /d2g/

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>STATISTICS
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>NEWS & STREAMS
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finally decided to watch a high level game
why the fuck do they Attack click so often?
They'll A click stop A click stop last hit normal click and a few more A clicks.

is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.

How to fix this mess:

>Return all the in-game changes back to 6.88
>Keep the new neutral creeps, keep the item changes, keep the backpack
>Keep the hero reworks and remodels, dynamic grass, community bots
>Make the talent system give you small attribute bonuses just like leveling stats did except at level 25
>Keep the new hero, new pregame, new HUD
>Add new "larger HUD" option with more info

Start fresh from there and make actual hero balance changes, not shitty talent bandaids. There Dota is fixed.

Why we never have pretty or lewd OP pictures

Yeah those are some great Ideas too bad all of them are shit because of the first one

>people go veil ember now because they think cleave was nerfed
>people are this inept at basic maths and geometry
new battlefury area has 91% of the size the old one had, but a more favourable shape
it is more directional and actually wider in the end than the old one
since his SoF now has a set direction it is actually better than ever
>mfw dotards are literally too dumb to read patch notes properly
>mfw noone even tried it out
>mfw I see even anti mages trying to replace battlefury with maelstrom or some shit

for farming purposes it's better. Also it has a set direction? Does the cleave go all in one direction? So if they were some what in a horizontal line it would spread outward and deal no damage since they aren't "behind" each other

I don't understand this games popularity.
I tried it and from what I gather you spawn then run a long distance towards and enemy, when you get there the enemy runs away, then some I guess is on your team comes along also, then they run away. If you run after anyone you die shortly afterwards.

Rocket League lived up to the hype but DOTA2 is laughably bad, I just assume people get far enough involved into it that they can't stop due to accumulation of some digital currency or something that will vanish if they stop, therefore all that time they invested would be gone.

>be Chinese general who specializes in killing people with swords on a Chinese video game
>for some reason the people who plays this game turns me into a magic user
what did they mean by this?

>It's different and I don't get that
A free (you)

then you SoF from the direction they are all lined up in, you can control it now when it was purely random before. It actually enables bad and good usage of SoF, where good usage outclasses the old one by far.

Different from a good thing by being bad, yes.

So, what should I go for after Tranquils-Urn-Veil-Shiva's on offlane Phoenix? I'd really like to get a Radiance because of the extra damage and 17% miss chance against my egg, but I've heard Octarine Core has a much higher value on him for a less than 1k gold difference.

I don't think I can get a 6th item anyways, games never last long enough every time I'm playing Phoenix, funnily enough.

Sunken cost fallacy. Most of the burned out playerbase has at least hundreds of hours invested and maybe even some fancy cosmetics. All that intricate knowledge about the game can't go to waste.

then you need blink for that, making ember even more useless until 40 minutes than he was before.
>guys, let me quickly farm my blink+bf+crit before I am of any relevance whatsoever
Magic damage ember has constant impact

you're making it sound like blink wasn't a part of the build since forever
you also have 3 remnants for mobility

Why is the gulag so fucking dead?

>tfw techies is good now

because dota became actually shit

...

Is Furion actually decent in 7.01? Or is he still just a shit hero that tanks your MMR like in 6.88?

Worst hero in the game atm

WHOS
THAT
POKEMON????

7.00 was supposed to fix memeback
it didnt
now everyone is quitting

Do you mean while farming? It's to get the last hit timing just right.

timing and attack move

youtube.com/watch?v=Y-tLY8ztmRU

Yeah while farming. I guess, i usually click on the creep and hit S while farming, all the while moving of course. I'll try that out i guess see how it works. I just feel like it auto targets the wrong creeps i only use it when i'm up against techies or something stupid so i just a click through the woods.

> Not going veil for that early game and mid game impact and then normal damage
It's sunken cost fallacy oh ahit i bought veil now I need to go full retard magic damage where my bloodstone at

The build is veil bots blink bfury CRit or bloodthorne octamene

Oh well yeah i use attack move while kiting, just not while farming, i just do a regular click auto or i'll cancel it with movement. My only issue with a click which i said is when it targets the wrong thing if i try to last hit with it.

I like the idea I'll try it

you didn't even guess which hero

I farm so much by a clicking the ground, it just makes movement feel natural since you can move inbetween attacks without moving the mouse like a CS:GO pro from creeps to directions and back

i like the idea too, i will try to guess the hero

we've been over this

the reason new bfury sucks isn't because of the area covered, its because of the direction. The real nerf was that sleight of fists now always faces away from the caster instead of being at arbitrary directions based on previous slashed targets which was based on unit creation

If ember spirit is in your face slashing you like this webm, you'd take 0 damage from battlefury cleave because he'll always be hitting the creeps away from you. If you're standing in front of your creep wave, you'll never get hit by cleave

the only way its possible to get hit by cleave now is to have creeps between you and ember, which is easy to avoid. Any time you're running towards him, he's never going to land cleaves on you

veil->maelstrom is better damage output in fights, better farming, lower gold cost, better stats.

>>mfw I see even anti mages trying to replace battlefury with maelstrom or some shit
antimage needs bfury to farm
ember doesnt. Ember with just flame guard + boots of travel + fire remnants and spamming searing chains on creeps is going to flash farm lanes and jungle so fast theres no point to bfury
maelstrom + veil already wipes wave when defending highground so no point in bfury there either

eh you guys suck

>run straight into his face, against directions
>worst usage of SoF possible with new mechanics
>instead could have ensured a cleave from every creep there
yeah, it's not your fault right?

> go for the big push
>LC somehow snakes behinds us
>takes our our mid and bottom racks
>they have mega creeps
>we can'/t end because she can solo those towers with one lane of creeps
>almost lose because of no backdoor protection
does it just shut off once you lose one rack? we had top racks down but the creeps weren't close until lc started on the ancient towers. or in the base rather

It's a mega creep on mega creep battle btw.

You tricked me

Even the talent are trying to escape dota

so he should run away from sniper and stay at 600 distance so he can land a couple weak cleaves except still probably miss anyway, while not able to attack him inbetween sof because he's out of melee range?
and miss every chains because theres creeps inbetween them?
lmao sounds like a good way to be a farm vacuum that loses every fight

ember actually deals MORE damage to an enemy surrounded by creeps with maelstrom than bfury, because at least the maelstrom procs bounce to the hero whereas bfury would just miss entirely.

look at the directions cleave would have hit when he cast sof. how useful is that lmao? would hit hit 0 times on sniper

on the flipside, the guy at the back gets literally hit by every cleave and gets rekt. Instead of doing random even damage across the enemy team, you are doing more targeted damage to the guy at the back and might even land a kill on him. 1 dead guy is better than 5 guys at 80% health

I don't see any talent there.

>sheever
>'talent'

also
>escaping to CS GO
that's like escaping from the nazis to the soviets

the point is you would have used SoF differently there, of course if you run inbetween everything and go against it's mechanics it's gonna end up being bad
first SoF should have been used before running in, not after attacking once
second SoF would only need to be used a little later so creeps catch up to sniper

your whole argument is literally based on the fact that the SoF usage in your webm goes against current mechanics and was therefore garbage

why don't they just make SoF cleave towards the inside of the circle so the centre gets hit by all the cleaves? That would be better

because they wanted to remove the randomness and add skillful usage
cleaving towards the inside wouldn't utilize positioning or ember's mobility and be braindead as fuck

or jumping from one sinking ship to another ship that's sinking faster

>there are still people who think dota is dying

it's better to make him braindead because then he'd be more accessible desu. But this is okay too.

My game keeps freezing for 2-3 seconds in crucial moments (slark popping out of invis enxt to me, teamfights). My fps is steady and capped at 60, never drops below it, every other game I have runs perfectly smooth. Only dota has those annoying freezes. I reinstalled the game, verified, didn't help.
Any ideas?

>claims to have 70 winrate with disruptor
>proceeds to fail to harass void out of xp range
>blames me for loss
fucking niggers

but wouldn't this new direction make supps suffer more? I mean, I've done 3 bf embers already in this new 7.00, won two games, and in these 3 games with 3 damage items I always instakilled supps that were even far behind the lines =p

Is there anyone who can compete in gpm with AM once he gets Bfury? Besides Shekel Ogre?

>the amount of dancing you have to do to manage to kill someone as puck
>at 3-4 cycles of Q and W
what a totally damageless hero

save all your neetbux and buy a new 2017 pc

Natures Profit with aghs octarine.
AM, Alch and NP are the three main farmers

Is that Sheever? Omg, I member she was hot few years ago

what's the most fun builds to come out of 7.00? the most op?

>bls resbond

>Ember with just flame guard + boots of travel + fire remnants and spamming searing chains
Clan_iraq, i was sure you were the one who advocated skipping flame guard/ SoF+searing chains= 6 second finger of death here years ago
wtf i hate theorycrafting now

Could be a storage medium going bad issue, or something using it at max capacity.
I have that when my windows software raid is resynching. The resynching process uses disks at 100% capacity and all other programs take a year to load resources.

Dagon Eblade Aghs(25 sec cd lmao) Necrophos

Sheever has a cute cat!

you got a source there senpai, i can't find anything on the usual places

tinker

after that you get +25

>literally
>not
>recognizing
>Red
Try going back to the 'dit, and stay there

it is?

hasn't reached 1 million concurrent players since the patch lmao.

i haven't played dota in 2 years so i haven't had any reasons to come back to this place until last week

doing random unpredictable damage that SOMETIMES hits the enemy team is better than doing damage that NEVER hits the enemy team, because its fucking trivial to avoid and doesn't work in the situations where you'd want it, like rubbing up against someone with flame guard

the only scenario where cleave connects is when someone is dumb enough to walk right up behind the creep wave uphill into your T3, and why would they do that?

for ember to connect bfury cleaves in that webm, he'd have to be standing in a different place for every creep, in a huge ring around the fight. The new mechanic has made it so you can connect off what, 1 creep, only if you line it up and stay out of range, only if the enemy isn't moving, and only in the same situations where chaining them is hard lmao

the new cleave/sof is garbage

is there any hero that can?

What if /d2g/?

How do we fix?

ever tried to get?

Who else in here plays confy-magi?

So i just hit

how to fix monkey kang:
>jingu mastery
>required hits 6/5/4/4
>bonus lifesteal removed
>bonus heal per attack: 15/30/45/60

hitbox.tv/royalarena

Slav esports if you want. Or don't. I don't care.

For me, it's Disruptor, the best fast-food sandwich.

how about

>attack range from 300 to 150

fixing monkey is the least of our worries. a big nerf is easy for one hero, the mess with the whole patch is harder especially because theyre stubborn as hell and only listen to reddit fags.

guys I just

are assfaggots?

>be 2886 mmr
>on road to 3k
>on 4 game win streak
>teammates pick morph ta dusa techies
>warned them in draft phase about team comp
>"its fine"
>solo support :^)
>game is a 70 minute snore fest, carries get caught out over and over fighting for farm
>i have literally never wanted to abandon more
>every time i grave someone the other carry spam pings me for not using it on him
>all 3 carries have sub 500 gpms
>lose
how do i avoid this? what can i do to motivate my teammates to draft/play smarter?

>Play Disruptor
>enemy tp's to one of their towers
>use glimpse to send them back
>mfw
As long as I get to do that once, I don't care if I lose. It was worth picking Disruptor.

Secret strat

do not tell anyone you guys
youtube.com/watch?v=GbsSsHrE340

hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/8/86/Orac_kill_13.mp3
Didn't know Oracle was such a memelord before i heard this line today.

but the new meme isn't 8 cooldown finger of death, its 5 cooldown finger of death with permaroot

this man gets it

People will always play what you want, your job is to get them to play in a way that is most beneficial to the team. Most low MMR players will just dick around, so if they accidentally draft a something like a deathball lineup, someone has to tell them to get going.

What's the problem /d2g/?

who thinks techies is not the counter to MK here?

How do I waternigger?

she's not married to me and carrying my kid?

Haha sheever is so ugly in that pic

>bfury in 2017
>on anyone

just go maelstrom

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>Dota 2
>For three years straight game receives garbage updates that throw old balance philosphies out of the window
>gaming forum valve caters to is full of drooling retards who dissent over skins rather than aforementioned changes
>they literally got more buttblasted about some skywrath mage skin than int giving more spell dmg or moonshines all over the map
>Still not a working 6.78 map despite apt modding tools, hell even if it's created, it might not get much attention

>csgo
>Valve keeps ignoring awful state of the game and pushing further greedy microtransaction in the face of declining user count
>Even reddit has grown tired of valve
>cs 1.6 and css mods which try to simulate them perfectly even though there are no modding tools
>gets attention even by pros and respected community figures

EXPLAIN THIS DOTARDS