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xth for lunatic complaining about everyone in the discord
Easton Rivera
I have since relabled the "GRIND NOW?" column to the more descriptive "Will 0.6.0 fuck me in the ass?"
And my own personal spreadsheet has those multipliers for my own personal cutoffs. It will show "YES" if it meets those requirements, currently set as Gain/Effort > 1 (i.e. I stand to gain effectively at least 2x what I have left to grind), as well as having a penalty of at least 25000 lost xp if I don't grind it out now. I will adjust these numbers as I make my way through my captains, which helps me prioritize things.
But this is only useful if you input all your captains into a spreadsheet at once, and obviously that's not going to happen with a publicly available Google Sheets.
Jaxon Sanchez
Why is he even doing it? FUCK
William Perry
>tfw no crates gifted to me
David Cooper
I C H I B A N C H I B A N
Ian Sanders
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Tyler Edwards
hello i am your resident funposter and i did a post not too long ago
please like subscribe and (you)
Daniel Howard
Lunatic is too autistic for himself to even be handled. First Raptor was banned for being autistic and Lunatic might be next.
Samuel Diaz
he'll still stick around and shitpost about random anons in the thread though
Gabriel Long
DELET >Lunatic's face when
Jordan Collins
Raptor used his power of autism to entertain us lads. It's unfair to group him with Lunatic desu.
Charles Roberts
nah he was just a medicore shitposter, the same as lunatic
Jeremiah Ward
Luger banned when?
Gavin Anderson
Autism status: sated
Daniel Brown
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Asher Roberts
>if less that 13 pt captain, get him to 13 its what im getting from it
Robert Clark
what happens after the patch if the captain is retraining for another ship?
Samuel Nelson
Is the Kuma supposed to be a comfy boat? Because it feels like a comfy boat.
Wyatt Evans
kuma is a pretty comfy bote
Ayden Smith
All T4 cruisers are pretty comfy. Last good cruisers till T10
Angel Martinez
Kuma is a fun ship, kuma.
Thomas Clark
Should I use AP or HE as a german DD?
Easton Williams
AP 100% of the time, if you use HE you are literally a shitter
Connor White
>Should I use german DD?
Fixed that question for you. The answer is No, btw.
Jack Carter
It takes about twice as much XP to get to point 8 or 9 from scratch under the new system as it does under the current one, so getting at least that far is doing pretty well. 12 is a good place to stop, as after that point, points are easier to earn under the new system.
Colton Price
>have a few 12-15 point captains in progress >this has killed all motivation to work on them now because I know it'll be wasted XP and I probably won't get much in the way of points to save before the changes ;_;
its also for the boilers that need alot of air to burn the oil
Benjamin Foster
>have a few 12-15 point captains in progress Plug those guys into the calculator if they have any captain XP already on board and see if you should grind that shit out right now.
WG looks at aggregate xp. Look at my Bayern captain, for example. I am about 3/5 of the way (79528 xp) towards getting my 14th point in her, and I currently have 411428 aggregate captain XP in her with 13 points. Come 0.6.0, the aggregate XP requirement to get 13 points will increase to 447000 XP. That's more than my current total.
So what happens when 0.6.0 hits? WG won't take away my skill points, so I'll still have 13 points, so they'll bump me up to 447000 aggregate XP so that I can keep my 13 skill points. But what happens to those 79528 captain xp I had accumulated towards the 14th point prior to 0.6.0? They disappear, of course. Or rather, they were eaten by the requirements of the previous skill points you have. Come 0.6.0, I would have a 13 point captain with 0 (ZERO) extra captain XP ground out towards the 14th skill point, effectively setting me back 75528 xp in my grind for the 14th point.
tl;dr: Check your captains now while you still have time.
Nathan Morgan
Can anyone help a new player out? People keep yelling at me to angle my armor, and I'm aware going full broadside is a fool move, but what is the optimal angle? Do you want to have most of the guns able to shoot at the guy you're fighting, or do you only want to show front turrets?
Tyler Reed
I already checked them, they're basically all 'fresh' into their next point so there's not going to be a whole lot of XP to lose unless I actually play them, at which point I'll have enough XP on there that I'll be losing a significant amount of grinding, but I wouldn't be close enough to actually get to the next point before the patch.
Adam Sanchez
while we're at it whats the trick with the t-22? cant really drop sneaky torps anymore
Landon Hughes
>Do you want to have most of the guns able to shoot at the guy you're fighting, or do you only want to show front turrets? It depends on what ship you're in, what's firing at you, and what the situation is.
In short, you gotta use your brain.
Gotcha. Yeah, if they're all relatively fresh into a point, then just leave them alone, but if you have any decent progression towards the next skill point, you stand to lose a lot.
Ryder Sullivan
Well I'm in the Wyoming and Kuma right now. Feels like the best thing to do in the Kuma is to wiggle out when the guns are ready to fire, but I don't know what to do for the Wyoming.
Carter Perry
Wiggle your Wyoming in between salvoes. Just because your rudder is slow doesn't mean your rudder is immobile.
Brandon Murphy
I guess it's one of those things that I'll just pick up in time. I try to do it, but it feels like every time I kick my side out to fire the middle guns I get torped in the side. That or it's conformation bias.
Nathaniel Gray
In most ships if you are revealing more than your front turrets you are showing too much side. The main exceptions are KM BBs with their turtlememe armour. Whether you should stay perfectly parallel to the path of incoming shells or show a slight angle (~10°) depends on whether your bow armour can be overmatched by the incoming shells. Whether or not you should try to get your other turrets into the fight is a judgement call.
Wyoming is overmatched by Myogi and higher tier BBs. Kuma is overmatched by BBs and heavy cruisers (but not Kirov).
Easton Nguyen
Ah. I guess I'll stick to DD's because my memory is shit and I'll never be able to remember who can overmatch me and who can't.
Carson Watson
Ibuki's been pretty good to me. I'm about halfway to Zao, and it hasn't felt like a grind at all. Having premium helps, of course. My thanks to the guy who posted that massive list of codes.
Daniel Price
Ibuki is a good girld and doesn't deserve the hate that she sometimes gets.
Gavin Evans
Ibuki's biggest sin is that she's a high-tier cruiser, and high-tier cruiser gameplay is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Lucas Gomez
Overmatch affects DDs too t. RN CL
Evan Morris
Was putting Gremys in the santa box a mistake? 8 point cruiser captain.
Benjamin Sanders
I don't get their reasoning at all since they consider it overpowered and were never going to sell it. Now I think they'll just nerf it and sell it again.
Andrew Turner
I know, but if I can just assume everything will murder fuck me I have to do less memorizing. The worst part is I just got a Texas, and now I have 0 motivation to play it.
Nolan Phillips
>French BB line still not announced
Jason Green
You're 2 hours late.
Leo Garcia
>hai meiyou Faguo BB xian
Ayden Price
Slowly but surely dragging my stats up. I think I only had like two games today where I played unacceptably poorly, so maybe I'm finally starting to become more consistent in my play. Even if I'm not, I'm still more than happy with stats like these Good night, /wowsg/!
Juan Miller
Nice. I've gone from yellow to green to blue, which is fairly decent
Cameron Powell
it's zhanjian you stupid laowai
Christian Scott
>playing a low tier BB >holding off another BB, a DD and two CL's >a lone destroyer pops up near the carrier >the three cruisers supporting me bail and sail running halfway across the map to kill the DD I just want to finish this grind.
Nicholas Watson
i miss hotel poster
Noah Allen
I don't have enough reports
Grayson Miller
Glad to hear you're improving too, user. I'm still low blue overall myself, but I feel like I'm starting to grasp the intricacies of high tier play. Plus I started grinding up USN DDs, which has been like a breath of fresh air after being a longtime IJN DD aficionado. Seriously, USN DDs are like free WTR.
Easton Collins
>270 battles, 929 rating Do I just need to give up?
Adrian Ward
>zhanjian fuck off stupid commie mainlander, it's zhulijian
Aiden Foster
I'm so close to blue myself. To think I'd reach that 6 months ago would have been a joke.
Jacob Smith
It's never too late to improve. Never give up! Seriously, 270 battles is just getting your feet wet. What's giving you trouble?
Nathan Powell
Are you me. Seriously.
I'm almost at Benson myself. Mahan is freaking god compared to Hatsuharu when I went up the IJN line.
Adam Scott
Nah. Keep at it user. Everyone here had shit stats. I'm 1,100 battles now and I was probably at your WTR back at 270 games.
Besides, fuck stats.
Cooper Morgan
I was probably about the same at like ~200 battles Now I'm purple Just feels like it's about trying to learn how the game works, and getting experience at how different stuff plays out
Jack Rogers
We're all going to make it anons. Whatever it is that we're looking for, I believe in you. Even me. Maybe.
Asher Lee
>there are taiwanboo/sinoboo gaijins in this thread
主力艦 (zhu li jian) is an ambiguous term for battleship, as it has an alternate meaning that can be confused with "flagship" or "ship of the line" instead. It is better practice to use 戰列艦 (zhan lie jian) instead, which always means battleship.
Unlike Japanese, 戰艦 (zhan jian/senkan) does not mean battleship in Chinese, it means warship.
t. Actual future puppetmaster of the planet.
Dylan Mitchell
I had about 980 WTR at about 2100 games.
Then I stopped playing IJN DDs.
James Reed
YELLOWS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH
Thomas Garcia
I hear a lot of people complain about the Mahan, saying it's a straight downgrade from the Farragut and such, but its only real shortcoming is the relatively high concealment. Even so, it really is fantastic compared to the Hatsuharu. I should know, I rushed to finish my Hatsu grind just before the line split. It wasn't terrible, but it always felt like I either had a great game or could've been just as well off afking for 20 minutes. Yes you, user. Especially you. We're all gonna make it.
Nathaniel Ramirez
I just don't get the game. On average I do 1100-1200 in USN DD's, which I hate playing and fucking horrible in Cruisers and Battleships, which I like playing.
It feels like I have horrible gunnery overall, on a few maps I know what to do and I can do it well, others I just end up panicking. I can't get armor angling to work for me. I either end up angling out to get all my guns in the fight and doing my health in damage, or only staying straight on or 10 degree and doing fuck all.
I think the biggest problem is positioning and gunnery. I tend to overshoot my target by at least 50-100 meters and hit them on the nose if they're broadside to me, and I just suck at being at where I'm supposed to be at.
Michael Johnson
>tfw 1200 battles >902 rating
Blake Campbell
you know you're going against RN cruisers when even the japanese DDs get citadels.
Levi Garcia
>tfw afraid to tank my stats just before statskun's update please hurry
Oliver Phillips
""""""""""""""no""""""""""""""""
Lincoln Gomez
its already too late user, we're already tanking them
James Morris
but i have to have wowsg seeing how high my name is maybe i'll just go play coop for the rest of the night
Joseph Wilson
Always remember to thank good AS CVs.
Henry Jenkins
so nobody then?
Thomas Perry
Which nations do you like, and at which tiers are you at currently? Gunnery is something you just sorta have to get a feel for as you play. If it helps, I believe each notch in the binocular view is equal to 1 second of shell flight time on a target doing 20kts, so you'd multiply the number by the stopwatch icon next to your reticule by 1.5 for most targets. For angled targets, you sorta have to draw a mental line from stern to bow for their ship, and from there you estimate the amount of lead you'll need. I'm sorry if this is all boiling down to "you just gotta feel it bro", but aiming is something that is practiced, not taught.
David Miller
>been playing well, average 1300 WTR the past 90 days >stats-kun paints me orange It all means fucking nothing. It's all just for shitposting purposes. It's not like people won't div with you unless they're elitist shits like 95% of the unicums on /wowsg/.
Anthony Gray
I have a shit load of preimum ships because I thought I'd have a knack for this game, but I mainly stick to USN stuff. I'm at VII USN DD's and rank IV for everything minus CV's in Germany and IJN.
And the odd part is I hit more often if the ship is moving away or towards me, I just full retard when trying to hit a moving broadside target. I know gunnery is mostly skill, but I tend to get a lots of bounces and overpens on things I don't quite understand. I also lack the magical art of getting citadels even though I'm smashing a ship in her midsection.
Jeremiah Adams
It's because it's just measuring total account stats, which everyone (except the rerolls) has measured evenly. They're getting their early stats counted too. I don't think anyone is really making decisions about who to div with based on those lists either, seems like most of them just have friends that they like playing with more over other anons. I'm just some standard /wowsg/ average shitter but I've played with people from the entire WR spectrum, and how enjoyable they are to div with has never really seemed to correlate to their win rates, most of them across the entire range are fun to sail botes with, there are some players with good WR and some with awful WR that are just not fun to play with and WR never really factors into it. Although yeah, you'd be stupid to take it all seriously, if you really want to find out how good people are you're better off just playing with them.
Brandon Garcia
I'm not sure you're aware of how good the average /wowsg/ is. I'm a purple on warships.today, and yet I'm still green because super unicums skewing the shit out of everything.
Ryan Reed
grabbing bisko broke my credit bank ;_;
Jack Murphy
Probably because WTR and WR just aren't the same thing, with statskun's lists measuring nothing but WR with purple being players with stupidly high winrates, while WTR is mostly based off how much damage you can farm in a ship compared to the averages regardless of if you win a huge amount of your games.
Christian Campbell
To put in perspective, I got to my position to help my team late, and I have no clue what to do at this point. Everyone dead was on this flank and I arrived right as the brawl started, not able to really do piss all.
I don't know what I should've done or what would've been proper protocol from the get go.
Landon Miller
Citadels you have to hit either just below their guns/smokestack/rearguns and usually a bb can citpen by aiming at where their ship meets water level. Citpens are RNGesus btw, so if you aim just right its no guarantee for a citpen.
and RNGesus is a bitch
Nathaniel Long
Essentially give up and cry at that point. The game's unsalvagable .
Josiah Robinson
On maps like that in domination, it's generally a terrible idea to have multiple flanks. Just play ring around the rosie, and if people want to cry about lemming trains let them run off and die alone. Sometimes you need to know when a flank is unsalvageable and the best you can do is spam at range to hold them off. In this situation, you're already dead no matter what you do.
Charles Reed
I want to dump my load into Fubuki.
Nolan Jenkins
>And the odd part is I hit more often if the ship is moving away or towards me, I just full retard when trying to hit a moving broadside target. It happens to everyone from time to time, I think. I find it helps to watch the smoke coming from your target's stacks to get a gauge on their speed. >I know gunnery is mostly skill, but I tend to get a lots of bounces and overpens on things I don't quite understand. If you're not confident that you'll pen the target, consider swapping to HE (after firing what you have loaded, of course). Even a relatively slight angle can bounce equal-tier shells, so you have to also get a feel for what you can pen and when you should use your AP. At tier 4, cruisers just don't have big enough guns with flat enough arcs to pen outside of close range, and even though they have tinfoil armor, even just a bit of angling will go a long way toward bouncing cruiser caliber AP off their belts. Against BBs, penning the belt at this tier is unlikely, and forget about citpens altogether. You can fire AP at the upper belt if you're close enough (think sub-8 km) and not likely to get deleted (in smoke or with island cover, basically). Otherwise, just spam HE. Naturally, this only applies to cruisers- as a BB, you should almost always be using AP. Switch to HE only if you're brawling with another BB and they refuse to give you any side at all. >I also lack the magical art of getting citadels even though I'm smashing a ship in her midsection. If you're a BB, pray to RNGesus harder. Otherwise, it's all about being opportunistic with what you're firing at. Cruisers at close-ish ranges (maybe 9 or 10 km, 11 if you're optimistic) giving you a flat broadside should be easily pennable once you've zeroed in your aim. Shoot for just below the stacks on most ships, as close to the waterline as you can manage without actually splashing. Sorry for the wall of text, but I guess there was more to it than I thought.
Cameron Torres
I put my "where I want to hit" just below the the castle of the ship. I assume I really want to hit aft of the castle?
Yeah I realized I was fucked after I started sailing that way. I just feel guilty going with all the other BB's on a flank if I play a BB. I don't prefer to play selfishly, but would it be better for me overall to just 'fuck those guys over there' if it justifies me doing more damage?
Still sorry for being that shitter that ruins your games.