/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

>Every card has it's different uses and can be good or bad

No it can't.

>given the circumstances and the current meta

There's only one meta in Curvestone: play overpowered minions on curve. Whichever player misses a turn first, loses.

You are oversimplifying things.

Well, it's not like it's something we didn't think they'd do. We all knew Blizzard would sour on the classic set at some point, no matter what lies they told us. It was just a matter of waiting.

Timmys and Johnnys are more populous than Spikes.

Classic being evergreen was the first mistake

Now they are paying for it, everyone told them how stupid it was but hey, that's Team 5 for you

>>Powerful cards should be in expansions, not classic/basic set.

How about you fucking kill your worthless self Ben. Classic set should be the MOST powerful set precisely because it's the one people have most access to.

No, actually scratch that. Basic set should be the most powerful. Every card in Basic should be Fireball's power level. Then comes classic, and any flavor of the month expansions come dead last.

Whenever I watch my friend for the watch a friend quest, I get reminded how true this is.
And every time the RNG doesn't work completely in his favor, he starts spamming me messaged complaining about it.

>blizzcucks are mad they are balancing the old cards
fuck off retards

I agree. I kinda think basic should rotate out too.

>Well, it's not like it's something we didn't think they'd do. We all knew Blizzard would sour on the classic set at some point, no matter what lies they told us. It was just a matter of waiting.

That doesn't excuse them.
>Stop with the happy-go-lucky attitude, senpai, there is a time and place to be positive, but this is neither.
>Stop
STOP.

>Timmys and Johnnys are more populous than Spikes.

Sure, that's why when I play HS I don't see 98% Pirate Shaman and Pirate Warrior. I see tons of fun theme decks, and you know, people just having fun. That's the meta right now, fun decks with fun gimmicks. Not Turn One Buccaneer Patches at all.

Thalnos, Drake and Sylvanas.

Rag doesn't even see play right now and Auctioneer is the sole reason Rogue is playable at all.

One good way to do it is make a basic 2.0 with a stronger powerlevel so new players don't feel so behind having to play yetis against fully golded decks

they arent balancing anything you retard
and how are peeople that complaing about blizzard blizzcucks?

Let's just rotate every set out of Standard and shut down the whole format, it's not like it's fucking worth playing.

>tell your players the Classic set is forever
>realize a big part of meta decks are still Classic cards
>"powerful cards should be in expansions"
Mmhh really makes me think

The problem they made with the class identities is not just the same old cards, but the fact that individual characters represent the classes. Magic's color wheel represents whole swaths of creation, but in Hearthstone you always think "Well, I'm Rexxar."

>fireball
in light of usage statistics we found fireball to be underpriced, it now costs 5 mana bringing it more in line with other spells

>Rag doesn't even see play
yes he fucking does

What did he mean by any of this shit?

Lets rotate out Ben and everyone else working on the game

Reminder that Kibler called out the non rotating classic set as a mistake the instant Standard was announced.

The game has too few cards, too few expansions, and too much of a pussy footing balance team to sustain a healthy standard environment.

They either need to go full rotation or no rotation. Going halfway with it is only causing problems.

Its really fucking sad when a gametype called wild (which was created so that blizzard doesnt have to balance their game) has more archetype variety than standard.

Which should I pick?

Im leaning towards N'zoth since I have 4 good deathrattles, but heartharena says icehowl is better by 30 points

What the fuck are you guys talking about?
Brode is right.

Moroes is the obvious choice.

how about they stop catering the game to fucking streamers and people that play in tournaments?

hearthstone is bad because the people working on it are shit at designing the game and are trying to pretend its a real competitive game

fuck the streamers and fuck the developers they are the ones making the game worse

You are forgetting that the average player is Rank 20, user, and I presume you are not. The average player is absolutely terrible at the game, just like any other video game. Go to your quest log and see what top percentage you are in. Now remember that all those people below you are so numerous. Just think for one moment and stop living in this echo chamber. The average player plays once a week and feels good getting the monthly card back. Don't be stupid.

>2 legos
reee

Daily Reminder next big Hearthstone expansion will be Diablo or Starcraft or Overwatch or a mix of all related and you will all eat that shit up like Ben Brode's unprocessed placenta.

>Go to your quest log and see what top percentage you are in. Now remember that all those people below you are so numerous
its because blizzard counts inactive accounts

hearthstone has at least 50 million accounts

It happens if you use real money to enter the arena.

try and trade all of them in for an assassinate?

you already have plenty of lategame stuff that can actually kill your opponent, n'zoth is to unreliable for arena in a deck with that little deathrattles and moroes often ends up doing nothing

>how about they stop catering the game to fucking streamers and people that play in tournaments?
they arnt. They are catering to reddit.

see: Patron nerfs. something that the majority of "professional" players criticized.

Maybe if they actually put more thought into their filler cards and didn't brute force garbage like beast druid and dragon "curvestone" priest this wouldn't be a problem.

But hey, why put effort in when drones will pay 30 dollars for 50 cards with great ideas like a 3/2 vanilla taunt.

Although I agree with the spirit of your message, if you use your head and think about it, of course a format that has more cards would have more archetypes to play. That's just simple mathematics.

i did it yesterday and my deck was so shit i enden up 1-3
also everyone I played against got at least one lego

meh, lately I've found legendaries to be fairly mediocre as a pick in arena

to much chance for those highly specific legendaries that are worse than a common in arena

Thats some really cool. In MTG white can be goody two shoes kingdom or nazi-like machines in search of perfection but in HS everything always just feels so samey

>they arnt. They are catering to reddit.
no they arent, stop using reddit. as a boogeyman its a fucking scapegoat

they nerfed patron because blizzcon finals were coming up and they didnt want it dominating them

every decision done to hearthstone is purely financial, a way to screw players because they know they can get away with it

now they arent getting enough new players so want to screw old ones

>Powerful cards should be in expansions, not classic/basic set. So it's risky to buff cards from classic/basic set, because nobody will be playing new cards.
Honestly this wouldn't be this much of a problem if they fucking printed good cards in expansion. It would still be a problem and I would hate it to happen, but continue reading.
What fucking card did they print that can replace Drake? What fucking card draw did they print for Rogue after claiming that rogue class identity lies in card draw? What actually dangerous late game minion did they print that can replace Ragnaros?
It's not that those cards are great (they are), it's that they didn't print anything else great.

And that's the reason why aggro is so rampart. They printing insane 1 drops, good 2 drops, okay 3 drops and almost nothing good that could replace classic cards.

They want to remove good cards while not adding anything to replace them. What will stay? The OP shit from expansion. What is the OP shit from expansions? Fucking aggro and nothing but aggro. This is why this is a freaking awful idea on top of me not wanting to lose part of my collection that they said would be always standard. Even the loading screen tooltip says that classic and basic are always in standard.

He doesn't. Aggro doesn't run him. Renos stopped running him because he's a dead draw against aggro and doesn't help at all. Maybe Dragon priest and Midrange Shaman run him. Other decks that run him are barely competitive.

Rag is one of those legos that goes in and out of the meta regularly. The moment people start flooding the board, Rag stops seeing play in most decks. He's basically a anti-control/midrange tech lego.

ITT: user writes a book

>every decision done to hearthstone is purely financial
This. The long time taken to nerf undertaker even though it was by Blizzard's own admission the most oppressive deck ever was purely to get as much money out of the player base.

A draft I had a few months ago

>people think anything blizzard does is a good idea

NOTHING they have ever done has made the game better
EVERYTIME they do something the game gets worse
They are INCAPABLE of doing anything right because they are incompetent

The ONLY thing that was both a GOOD idea that also made them MONEY was the Welcome Bundle, that was the only addition that was fair to players and gave the game money, with no actual work going into it

While Kibler is right in regard to how healthy it's for the meta, he's absolutely wrong in how healthy it's for my wallet. I'm not a rich streamer faggot who can drop $200 on every expansion since I can't have a core collection on which I will build up further.

>jungle moonkin in arena
jesus how bad were your other picks

and only three 3-drops? damn

Nah it'll be "Hearthstone: Revenge of Kel'Thuzad!" And we'll get some incredible reprints like "Belcher of Sludge" 3 mana 3/5, summon a 1/2 sludgeling with taunt.

but the kicker will be a promo card at the next Hearthstone even, a Tracer promo card.

Then that will open the floodgates the some HotS tier cross franchise degeneracy

of course they are catering to reddit. It isnt a bogeyman. Its the simple truth. It isnt a simple coincidence that most communication from blizzard is done through reddit and how Brode follows most of his statements with "so I was looking at some reddit posts"

>they nerfed patron because blizzcon finals were coming up and they didnt want it dominating them
no, they nerfed patron because it was dominate on ladder for going on months and the fact that there was a very vocal hate campaign against it. Firebat, Thijis, Kibler, Savj, Reynad, and Lifecoach all were against the patron nerfs and pointed to blizzard nerfing to appease the casual player.

I'm sure I read they only counted players that connected during the month and maybe did some games, I don't remember.

If they are catering to reddit, why is reddit all up in arms with pitchforks criticizing Blizzshit constantly for a long time right now?

>I'm not a rich streamer faggot who can drop $200 on every expansion
That's how it is for literally every other card game

>of course they are catering to reddit.
No they arent because reddit/ is complaining about it to

fucking retard
>muh reddit.

keep falling for the meme and pretending this isnt about blizzard making more money from a game they know is dying

is /hsg/ still just ~10 people using different devices pretending to be different posters?

Jungle moonkin can be pretty damn good in arena, I had a deck with 3 swipes + moonkin and it went 12-0

>That's how it is for literally every other card game
not every digital one, hearthstone is closer to a physical card game in prices than any video game CCG

but blizzdrones will excuse this because they like being fucked in the asshole because
>MUH NOSTALGIA
>DIABLO WOW STARCRAFT XD

That would be a lot of work.

Are Blizzard actually retarded?

>8 months of Shamanstone
>Only hope is Standard since Shaman's classic cards mostly suck and it relies heavily on expansions
>Hahahahaha, we're nerfing/rotating out all good classic cards, so every class relies entirely on expansion cards

not him but wow you are dumb, no reading comprehension

>t. Brode

I don't even play Hearthstone anymore. I only shitpost
>tfw you can quit Hearthstone but you can't quit /hsg/

>using different devices
You can just reset your IP dude.

People don't care enough for this game to do this

No, only physical TRADING card game.
Other DIGITAL card games are infinitely more generous than HS.
In fucking Weebshit you get 35 free packs just for starting to play the game. And you can easily reroll it as many times as you want until you get the best possible cards you want from those packs.

Why do you faggots always your the "it's that way in other card games" to excuse this bullshit, especially when it's not applicable?
You can resell your physical cards easily and the smarter and better player actually make money on it.
Every other digital card game isn't even close to the physical card game bullshit.

I picked up Hearthstone because it wasn't like physical card games.

That's what Brode would say

>no, they nerfed patron because it was dominate on ladder
No it wasn't. Patron in fact had a

so you blindly say that im wrong while offering nothing in return. -Literally- not an argument

You have shown that you are unable to argue and that you are too retarded to understand whats going on

This is why nobody takes you seriously you complete child

reddit is always up in arms, and they always get their way

see: purify shitstorm and priest buffs, post naxx miracle nerfs, patron nerfs,

Well, thanks for believing that I'm not a lazy bastard.

yeh but in a deck with what looks like only wrath and starfire that can be a massive liability

things like hellfire hitting for 5 can just break your board right open

only when you consider all ranks in total. Naxx era miracle had a terrible winrate below rank 5ish and nobody is going to argue that it was balanced

hearthpwn.com/news/1057-warsong-commander-nerf-incoming

competitive environment isnt even listed and again, the hate campaign on reddit was far stronger than anything that professional players were saying.

except it dominated in tournaments, and blizzcon was around the corner

Man, if the next expansion doesn't solve at least some of HS problems Team 5 HQs will end up being stormed by reddit and burned down

This whole clown fiesta is amazing to watch

>watch Hearthstone every day
>read about Hearthstone every day
>shitpost about Hearthstone every day
>bought 50 Hearthstone packs for Christmas
>haven't played Hearthstone in weeks
it's an abyssal kind of suffering.

How much longer until Reno rotates out?

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I love so many games and play a lot of them

HS is not one of them, but there is just something special about following the shitpost that goes around it

Get out.

>why yes I DO in fact play aggro. Im not some kind of uncultured savage who cannot appreciate the one TRUE way of playing Hearthstone. The SMorc that is.

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Is that a woman?

>that glorious feeling when cucking some fat nerds winrate with a single card
I always imagine them slamming their keyboard while fighting back tears when their only gameplan is stopped right in its tracks. Its posts like yours that make me enjoy playing this game.

Pretty sure the left image is from some Menatplay gay porn.

I am seriously worried for the future if people are crying over a card game.

aggro players aren't picky, man. they just go with the flow.

it's the cuntrol players who have to sit around and contemplate their every action like they are some kind of ancient greek philosopher.

so what if someone likes cock? it's 2017 man.

gender is a social construct

I never said anything was wrong with it.
In fact they have good taste. Men at play has great porn.

>Nerfing the only good classics so people buy more packs

>Wanting to play with the same cards forever

>I still want to lose to Leeroy Cold Blood Cold Blood in 2023

>only way to change up the meta is by killing good cards because team shit is too incompetent to make better cards
Sounds about right.

you have to be delusional to think this game will exist with sizable # of users after 2 years. it will be similar to d3 now. new player population is already nonexistent that is why they are moving towards a final monetization plan that extracts max profit from remaining players.

>2023
This game will be dead in 2 years.