# Find me one, I'll pay you. Find me a single serious raid group that's BEGGING for a White Fucking Mage.
# They buffed their cards so AST could effectively Off heal while giving off the same level of strength a SCH would with their nonstop DPS and fairy.
Unfortunately SE can only think one step ahead and never assumed they'd just take AST with increased buffs and SCH.
Leo Bailey
>paksie and abe go to sleep >quality of the thread skyrockets with sch discussion
Really makes your bells jingle
Jose Diaz
Will the Orison robe ever be not WHM only?
Sebastian Collins
Xth for spending time with friends old and new.
Hudson Collins
me too
Nicholas Bailey
Absolutely agreed
AST is a complete mess because they thought it was a good idea to put the inbred child of WHM/SCH into the game, not giving it it's own identity and needing to make it a buff machine and nerfing healing requirements to the ground to have people pick it for progression, after buffing it for the whole xpansion.
The reason why people go SCH is because WHM is so fucking garbage right now, unecessary healing power, shit mana managment and no utility/mitigation whatsoever.
Why would you give up on Indo, Supervirus and Soil, on top of infinite mana and easier sustained damage?
Again, the point is you have an easier time simply because if they make cleric affect the fairy, it would be harder to dps itself. Don't just think of 2 healer comp, because regardless hots + fairy will be the best, simply because they cannot stack hots with shield stance.
I don't understand this mentality of nerfing stuff instead not thinking it would be more healthy for the game to give a huge buff to WHM in 4.0.
Nocturnal is considered because raid damage got severly butchered compared to previous tiers, which besides the card buff,was another way to force the weakest healer since 3.0
Liam Bell
>skyrockets
Chant du cygne just said he'd like to fuck a fairy, so there's that.
Aiden Adams
I wish Sony would stop being such jews and just allow 3rd party stuff be uploaded to PSN so we can finally get mod support. Or Yoshi to stop being such a bitch and allow it for the PC anyways.
Bentley Richardson
:thinking:
Isaiah Miller
no please enjoy your AF gear
Joseph Moore
nice phoneposting buddy, how about you lay that phone down, accept your bans like a good boy and have a nap?
Julian Wood
You're welcome. Even though my crackpot Cleric Stance suggestion is mostly ever bait when I post it, I do really like to hear from both sides of the Healer Debates. They're a lot more interesting than the equivalent Tank Debates, I think.
It's not a perfect idea, but I will stand by my statement that the last thing I want is for them to just make Eos suck ass and call it a day in 4.0.
Leo Clark
I want to be spitroasted by these meowers!
Brody Bailey
>165036825 Obsessed with this thread.
Carson Morris
And he starts samefagging, the ip count hasn't gone up.
Eli Davis
>Unironically not replying to someone properly to not give them (you)s you're no better
Someone please queue up for Thornmarch hard on aether. I wanna get this stupid MSQ over with already
Grayson Walker
Nigga A12s prog with 3.5 next week isn't a serious group. You found some groups, but not the ones he was talking about
Austin Diaz
why did you break up wtith flatcscales
Wyatt Fisher
So why is he called paksie anyway?
Camden Thompson
I need some advice.
I'm a raid leader, and so far I have a comp of DRK/WAR/Nin/DRG/MCH/BRD/SCH/WHM.
The problem comes with the WHM. He has AST to 60, and plays it very good but refuses to play it for our group because he says he handles WHM better. But our entire group doesn't want WHM. The ninja said he'll even leave if we don't have AST. Do I kick the person?
Brandon Phillips
Samefag
Justin Kelly
Malera need to be ensalved so I can have a harem of hung lizardmen to pump me everytime I desire.
Jaxon Lee
unless you're doing speedruns who cares
Brandon Morgan
b8
Lucas Ward
But my 73rd percentile parse on our weekly a11 clear is very important to me
Daniel Howard
He's mad as fuck with paks for some reason and there's this one log proving they're both alike in their shittiness
Logan Miller
What in the unholy fuck do you want me to do with an A12 progression group two months into the patch?
"Serious" group. Not "we're hilariously hopeless please anyone help" groups.
Tyler Cox
>73rd kill yourself
Jaxon Hill
Muh parses :C If I were the WHM, I'd switch to AST and refuse to use spread balance and just single target balance anyone other than the NIN
Ethan Lee
Honestly? Let SCH be nerfed for a month or two.
Of the current 13 jobs, only SCH has never had a period where they've been undesirable.
Isaiah Gray
8v8 Feast is pretty fun
Isaac Rivera
tell the ninja to stop being a fag thinking of nothing but his parse imo.
if you're clearing just fine with the dude on whm, it's whatever, tell him you'd prefer it if he went ast but if he won't budge he won't budge. if your nin legitimately wants to fuck his own ability to raid over something that stupid, that's on him.
Easton Edwards
>Implying any male lizard with common sense would just snap your neck
Brayden Hernandez
>speedrun comp that is missing the healer people are discussing about
It's really sad that people spent their time to argue in a critical way about the balance and then you have people bait like this, likely out of boredom or to falseflag,
Post proof of your comp or fuck off.
Nicholas Flores
Just unsub then or play astro
Alexander Taylor
My party cares. Please give me serious advice. I'm going to lose the static.
All because of AST and their fucking bloated parses.
Ethan Parker
Incorrect!
Alexander Parker
Newfag here
Are any of the starter jobs worth using at endgame, or are the advanced ones just universally better?
Carter Evans
Nah, you're losing the static cause of your lack of leadership skills. Classes are shit. Get your job as soon as you can.
Everything is viable endgame.
Julian Gonzalez
I'll consider it
Tyler Baker
Keep the WHM Dump the NIN Finding a companant NIN is easy as they are plentiful Finding a companant healer is a whole nother story, WHM is better than AST for raids anyway and tell your party to stop bitching.
David Smith
Your starting classes turn into the jobs later, and share the same level. Pick what you like, don't worry about possible wasted time.
Carter Morris
Thanks anons
This game's alright, I don't play a lot of MMOs but something about it is hooking me pretty good.
Nicholas Richardson
Devilish. And I'd do the same. Numbers are nice and can be fun when a group works together regardless of what's in your party, but true parsefags can fuck right off.
Nolan Nguyen
Discussing the game is the best medicine against the femboy, as he comes here for attention, not game discussion.
Sebastian Barnes
Hello
Josiah Barnes
They need to be tortured and brainwashed into submission first until they become mindless breeding pigs that follow every order.
There would be no choice, you would be kept as a living sextoy.
Dominic Ortiz
Parses after the first month of progression shouldn't be accepted to fflogs desu
No one cares about your shitty padded parse after you've wiped to the same thing 20 billion times
Kevin Hill
Well, except for this guy I guess. He's my singing Botanist.
Justin Perry
Let's stick to anonymous game discussion, shall we, avatarshitting pig?
Henry Parker
*brings ast during progression* go ahead and do it fagget
Tyler Murphy
>WHM is better than AST for raids anyway What the fuck are you basing this on? The only thing WHM brings that AST doesn't is Cure III.
Go ahead, tell me the uses for Cure III in Creator.
Actually fuck you, I'm kicking the WHM.
Lincoln Martin
>165037161 >165037864 Yeah this is bait. Just don't respond anymore.
Jonathan Hughes
>taking the mad avatarfag bait to derail game discussion into shitposting and falseflagging
really guys
Camden Hughes
Just tell him to ast or you're kicking him
Colton Hall
keep us updated as your static falls apart when your replacement can't perform.
Matthew Diaz
Shut the fuck up when you can't even contribute to the conversation, chemo
Charles Howard
I can't wait for the age of casters not having to level BLM for swiftcast or melee not having to level DRG for b4b
What a glorious time we live in
Zachary Torres
>All my classes/jobs at 60 except AST Fug
Gabriel Mitchell
Groups that kick people because they don't play the job they want when they've been doing just fine are the worst, and all the more reason why people should avoid places like Gilgamesh.
Aether is going to be awful for cross server PF, when everyone and their mom are going to bar newcomer PLDs, WHMs, and MNKs from even attempting to get into an A9S learning party.
Easton Turner
>tfw leveled everything to 60 twice other than DRK and MCH
Chase Diaz
>pig
lmaooooo that projection
Jose Sanders
I, myself, only don't have PLD and WAR at 60 so it doesn't really affect me but I am extremely glad that they are making the process less painful, especially for newer players.
Blake Taylor
Whatcha doin' /xivg/? I've almost got PLD to 60.
Nicholas Ramirez
This post did not need an avatar. It is time to report.
Ian Lee
...
Jacob Martin
Yeah I didn't level THM for a long time when I first started playing because low-level THM is awful and shit and I only wanted to heal. I've known people who have stopped playing the game because they didn't want to have to hit 50 and then go level MORE classes before they were allowed to be useful.
Playing a different game becasue I did like 40 fucking Creator runs today/tomorrow and still have not gotten all my loot.
Brayden Nelson
Thinking of killing myself.
Jose Allen
Fuck it, I'm going to get my AST to 60 this week and then cry into my magic bucket.
That's definitely a good thing and anything that gets the newer folks invested past the initial crawl is deeeeefinitely something I can agree with.
Robert Jones
literally dead game
Asher Hernandez
Heading to bed. I finally found a cozy home that feels warm and soft. Sleep well when you can, Highlander lady.
William Gutierrez
i miss eppu
Adam Edwards
Doing beast tribe dailies and daily hunts so I can get all the doman gear.
Jose Bennett
I asked him many times. It's too late now. I'm so tired of this WHMvsAST bullshit anyways.
Good. Maybe if they all get locked out enough SE will finally get balance right for the first time in all of 3.0.
Tyler Lewis
want to do it together?
Isaac Adams
Sad that I can't go into work today. Hopefully tomorrow. Also concerned that my housemate caught my bug. Probably just going to craft on XIV for a bit then go back to sleep
Easton Davis
...
Camden Price
Sure.
Michael Harris
tfw can't sleep tfw as lonely as can be kill me guys
Christian Evans
Let's get together and be really gay.
Jaxson Davis
Ladies and Gentlemen, they are awake. Game related discussion is now officially over.
Jaxon Ortiz
ok dude
Jonathan Edwards
But you're in the Palace of the Dead.
You probably already died.
Alexander Harris
debating levelling another class to 60 this coming week. PLD and DRK are at 54 so theyre easy picks, but I wanna get my 19 acn levelled. its a ruff call
oh hey ditto here man.
Lincoln Richardson
Can't wait for both SCH and AST losing cleric or getting a shittier version that doesn't have +10% dmg.
Nathan Scott
>replying to yourself how does it feel to reach a new low everyday, shitposter?
Ian Barnes
is this gay enough?
Jonathan Harris
/pet
That's a really impressive quote, guy
Juan Evans
That would be wonderful.
Brody Robinson
war, sch/smn, and ast are the only classes that matter
what teh heck are you doing with pld and drk
Carson Gutierrez
>hate bad >try out bard in potd to see how shit it gets >what the fuck this is actually fun 5/5 pretty fun job post 50 MCH is still pure suffering