I seem to get flamed when asked this question, I'm genuinely serious. I know they are different cars, different markets, but both want to go fast, both even buy GO-FAST bits for the cars. Let's not lie to ourselves, the V6 Mustang has been a fast car since like, half a decade now.
The compact hatchback is moderately roomy inside. But the big mustang has space too, and a big trunk. Just no foldable seats for bikes and appliances, of course.
And FWD vs RWD.... I don't get why there's $28,000 Mustangs in the same lot as $28,000 Foci ST
I like both cars, it's just I thought the Focus ST was a lot cheaper than the base 300 hp mustang.
Posting to see if there's anything I missed. I have not driven a Focus ST, but currently own a Fiesta and owned an SN95 GT.
James Williams
There is zero reason to get a V6 mustang over an Ecoboost.
Gabriel Cooper
It's 1000lbs lighter, That's about it. RWD is always more fun than even a quick FWD. inb4 rwd is no fun because my Miata can't spin the tires.
Noah Barnes
Maybe I googled the wrong model/ trims, but I see that the Focus is about 3,200 lbs, the Mustang is 3,600lbs. So the Focus is the same weight with two more fat passengers inside.
Carson Garcia
It's a v6 mustang is why.
A better question is why a FoRS over a mustang?
Nathan Phillips
You mean there's no reason to buy a bottom of the barrel Mustang over a top of the line Focus, right?
Kayden Clark
Yes, could you elaborate the reasons? I mean, it's not like the base model has roll up windows and no A/C and only a cassette player.
Carson Campbell
The FoST is a pile of shit and the worst of the three "hot-hatches" they make, the FiST is more expensive for less car and the RS has a chocolate turbo that can't handle being properly staged like it's competition can. (saying like how you have to change the drivetrain in an RS, where as you could keep the Evo/Sti's at stock) The V6 is hot garbage too, but at least you can expect better results in higher staging. I don't get the appeal of the performance side of the focus and fiesta, maybe it's just every time I work on one of these cars, all I see are ford's "quality" work.
John Russell
STOP SHILLING FUCKING FORD
AS IF THE FUCKING FIRST 18 FORD THREADS YOU MADE TODAY WERENT ENOUGH
YOU EVEN FUCKING SHILL FORD AGAIN IN YOUR FUCKING IMPAITENT AS FUCK SELF BUMP
SHAME ON YOU FOR BUMPING THIS TRASH
Joseph Thomas
IM NOT SHILLING, I owna FIesta and would not reccommend it to anyone. I'm just wondering, and asked a question. I don't plan on buying a Ford next, at all.
Benjamin Price
I'm guessing interior options on the mustang along with less performance oriented mechanicals. Brakes probably smaller than a GT, springs softer, etc. Rearend gearing, ironically Ford V6s had better ratios to make it feel faster.
LSS, you get better materials when you pay more.
When looking at a FoST, compare it to the GT. Those are essentially the same class of cars. FoRS and GT350+ would be the next tier.
Focus ST3 would be my vote. Better seats, better lights, better brakes, full options over a V6 Mustang.
Dominic Moore
And better resale value. Nobody ever wants a V6 Mustang.
Liam Bell
>>FiST is more expensive for less car
Are you saying the Fiesta ST is more expensive than a Focus ST?
Gabriel Richardson
I should be more precise, from MSRP standards, the FoST is more expensive, but after going to dealers and getting their ridiculous mark ups, it was like a 10-200 dollar difference where the FiST was more, maybe it's just a local thing?
Ian Garcia
A v6 mustang is a sin but a camaro v6 is better than any FST car
Easton Price
>Focus ST3 would be my vote. Better seats...
I have an ST3 and can agree at least on that. Those recaros are comfy as hell.
Cameron Mitchell
Definitely local. I can find a new FiST with about 50% of the features for around 19-21k, FoST 50% features around 24-27k
Kayden Evans
A bit stiff.
Daniel Edwards
where are you finding car's with only 2 tires and half a steering wheel?
Xavier Long
.....Not sure if I should explain myself or not...
Isaac Sanchez
Yes, once you first get it. After a while they soften up.
Landon Cooper
FUND IT
Juan Wright
I'm just curious. I'd be fine if they made a FoST with roll up windows and no carpet inside. Fuck the Ford Sync shit,
Andrew Howard
There is also no reason to buy an Ecoboost Stang when the v6 Camaro exists.
Juan Bennett
As far as I can tell this is the best thread to ask. What year did the fusion start getting LED headlights?
Landon Brooks
wait, how has no one mentioned this already?
just fucking buy a toyobaru for less than $28k out the door new, or less than $20k used
the only reason why you wouldn't is that you're some cucked faggot who actually needs """"practicality""""
Landon Howard
Used ones in my area go for >15k The only reason i wont pick one up right now is because im not paying $450/mo to insure one
Nolan Myers
Maybe I want a hot hatch and not a lolcan'tturn pony car
Xavier Russell
And thats for the decent listings btw. Ive seen some '13s listed for under 14k, with ~50k miles
Bentley Perez
Not only is the focus st faster on the straights and at the track, it has four doors and you can use it whenever you want for long trips.
Sounds like you're the one who's getting cucked
Evan Green
>wanting 2 extra doors on your shitbox that will literally never get used >fwd
Leo Brooks
>not being able to uber your car when your brokeass spent every dollar on gofast graphics
Brayden Wilson
>still faster >can bring 2+ chicks from the bar without a hassle
lmao
Nathaniel Fisher
>wanting dirty welfare recipients filthing up your back seats so you can make some spare change >get upset about it so then you floor it to try and have fun but then your torque steer reminds you that its not possible >few days later you try to get hektic in a wet parking lot but you cant because lol fwd no thx
Kayden Thompson
I like it when 4-cylinder guys argue
Brody Cooper
>implying its difficult to fit anything that not an amazonian female in the back seat of any coupe >still fwd kek
Joseph Hernandez
this is more of a fwd vs rwd thing fwd defenders being the desperate cucks obviously
Jack Moore
>Ford driver >bringing home chicks
We know what you really mean.
Jose Myers
What's wrong with the Focus RS?
Kevin Perez
$40,000 too much.
Nathaniel Morris
literally nothing seriously nothing
Josiah Carter
EHHH DUHH IT NO HAS AUTOMATTIC
Juan Bell
>what is negotiating the price
Also, how exactly is 40k for a decent-sized, RWD-bias AWD platform on 350hp a bad point?
Seems like nothing, aye.
James Ross
And let me just add, that shit is gay as fuck.
All modern cars for that matter. People get excited over them like liberals do for coming out transgendered. >IT PARKS FOR YOU! >IT STEERS FOR YOU! >IT BRAKES FOR YOU! >YOU CAN ADJUST DAMPENING RATES FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT!
Like babies.
William Wood
Cause it comes down to the fact that it's based off an Econobox you can get with a 1.0L Turbo for like $17,999.
So why not man up and get a 5.0 GT with a thunderous engine, instead of a turbo cuckback
OP here btw. RS bumpers look amazing in person though, then I look at the SE SES and Titaniums ST's next to it...
Jonathan Thomas
>RWD-bias AWD platform >transverse engine
Yeah nah.
Zachary Torres
>Also, how exactly is 40k for a decent-sized, RWD-bias AWD platform on 350hp a bad point?
only good thing about the mustang is the flathead v8 thats literally it
Blake Bell
All evos used a transverse engine. Pretty sure those are regarded as GOAT by most enthusiasts despite being unobtanium to anyone with a blue collar job
Evan Mitchell
They had a 50/50 or whatever split but they still weren't RWD biased.
Cooper Adams
I got a 2015 v6 stang rental recently and walked away really impressed. My money I would go v8 but it was a great car. I felt cool I thought it looks incredible. Interior was sporty feeling. Sound was even good and power isn't neck snapping but it hustles. Still very hoonable if you just wanna have some red fun. It was great.
Matthew Cox
Op asked about the cheap base STs and base V6 mustangs
Adrian Foster
Im just confused as to why the RWD bias would be a bad thing just because of a transverse layout
Christian Walker
It's fucking expensive. Cheapest one around me is $40k, which in my local market means ~$45k out the door. If it's power you're looking for, it has the same 2.3L Ecoboost that's in the cheaper Turbo Mustang.
Actually, you know what, skip the Ecoboost altogether and get a GT for
Jaxon Fisher
There's no such thing as a ff transverse awd setup with a rear bias.
Nathaniel Howard
>Cause it comes down to the fact that it's based off an Econobox you can get with a 1.0L Turbo for like $17,999. but that's the whole point of cars like that, or even muscle cars. a hot model based off a high volume platform. if you want a purpose built platform then that's a different argument.
because he's autistic and retarded
kys zika kid
Justin Moore
>t. spent $40k on a fwd with haldex
Jack Murphy
>everything I don't understand is haldex also >implying i'm not a poorfag with a $500 shitbox lmao
Hudson Wright
both are shit then
Blake Moore
>he likes little traps as expected of an 86 fan
Leo Bailey
I have a budget of 30-40k. What should I get, used or new?
I'm gravitating towards a Corvette Z06 C6. Seems like the best value.
Matthew Diaz
bad turbo and bad drive train, understeers worse than any golf, too much to sink into if you want to bring it to to anything higher than stage one. The only thing that seems impressive is the power it makes stock, even though, all it is is a older Mazda engine. It eats oil really badly as well and its rear diff overheats really easy. TL;DR Good engine put in a shitty car.
Brayden Jones
>he doesn't like his girls to have dicks baka what a fucking faggot
Andrew Rogers
>all it is is a older Mazda engine
Literally this. The Focus RS is the best Mazda built by Ford.
Xavier Adams
>shares same engine >only the cylinder block is the same
Cameron Myers
>al it is is aN older Mazda engine
Implying that's a bad thing. As much as Ferrd could've modified, it's hard to ruin what is an otherwise GOAT MZR.
So it "only" shares 50% of the engine, at least. Wew lad.
Kayden Murphy
God, it's like the block is going to determine what you can put into the engine as a whole. Did you even read my post, I said it was a good engine, fucking moron.
Landon Wright
doenst really give away much to mazda. theyd be using it too but nope, ford perfected their whack engine
Jace Baker
Hatchback convenience and easy to park
Joshua Nelson
When you are talking about buying a for-fun-only car for $30-40k do NOT become too focused on value. Drive a whole bunch of cars and the buy the you ACTUALLY LIKE, not the one that you think will sound the most impressive because of the badge or the horsepower badge.
I mean, unless those ARE the things that you really want - then by all means...
Brody Myers
Unless you're claustrophobic.
Isaiah Gutierrez
The V6 Mustang is absolutely horrendously boring compared to the FoST. It feels so big and so much slower. The only reason to buy the Mustang over the FoST is muh mustang or muh rwd.
Caleb Harris
>unironically advocating buying a V6 Mustang over anything
The Focus ST is a tarted-up grocery getter with all the daily driver conveniences. Mustang back seats need a front seat folded down to access and if you get the V6 you'll always regret not getting the V8.