Why the socialist and communist nations collapse all the time?

Why the socialist and communist nations collapse all the time?

>have country
>revolution happens
>everyone who criticizes glorious leader is now an enemy by default
>even those whose criticisms are completely legit
>mfw the country collapses and commies still don't understand why

Because it doesn't work.

>Veeky Forums Marxists claim the CCCP wasn't a true communist state
>Veeky Forums Marxists also defend Stalin for taking the necessary steps for preserving the communist state

>Veeky Forums marxist
>Smart

Pic ONE.

Don"t lie. If it works, if your goal is to collapse a country, if it works.

Russian here. My great grandfather was one of the original chekists. Grandpa fought in ww2. Father was a coal minor.
It didnt work because it was based on the idea that people would worry for the common good more than to thier our egocentrical benefits. We are spoiled children and real pure communism is inachivable. Any body cares to give it a try?

>even those whose criticisms are completely legit

Name some please

>communist state

hmm

>making up you're Russian on a Mongolian finger-painting forum to imply 'human nature'

for what reason

Я внaтype pyccкий, ypoд aмepикaнcкий.

Both can be true at the same time.

>white parents
>black son
??

Reminder that even the most capitalist nations should keep a government run postal service just to remind people how badly communism works.

why didn't your family care about the common good? It's like they wanted it to fail

Black mail man. Bitches hated him.

>Stalin dies
>USSR undergoes "economic reforms" such as revoking central planning, emphasis on profitability and reintroduces credit
>wtf communism failed??

cucc

What do a couple of people change if even head of stare doesnt care?

True. But if anyone destroyed the revolution, it was the guy that exiled/shot political dissenters, used a food crisis as an opportunity to pacify Ukraine through mass starvation, wiped out the Polish intelligencia as a way of pacifying that region, and formed a cult of personality around himself until he was a king in all but name.

The problem is that all socialist or communist nations except Cuba (which is liberalizing its market) collapsed or are in the process of collapsing.

I am not able to understand your obsession with communism and socialism is an ideology that empirically proves to be very inefficient and proclibe to collapse.

I understand your resentment with the modern world, but I think there are other more effective ways to fight.

Pop up book

Please do tell oow wize one.

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Why do america hate the ussr so much? We never blew up buildings in new york or something

stirred shit all over the globe
sent nuclear subs to the artic
sent nuclear bombers to alaska
had spies in every university
did ridiculous shit like the berlin wall
postured and threatened for 40 years to wipe out the US like they're North Korea but serious

do you not know anyone old enough to remember those years? the Soviets were huge cunts.

your post is so mccarhyist elvis presley jumped out of my radio and raped my mom

bet she loved it, you pinko fuck

>I understand your resentment with the modern world, but I think there are other more effective ways to fight.
tell me, which ones?

we really don't

>be stalin
>kill 80% of the party, including most brilliant marxist theorists at the time
>have plans, have ideas
>die
>only executive monkeys are left to run the country without any capacity for independent & creative thought
>WHAT WE DO????????????

those reforms never stuck.

Every time someone reformed the economy to be more market driven. Some hardliner came into power and went back Stalinism.

Commodities Economy Trap.

Jimmy Carter deregulated domestic oil prices. Causing a huge boom in production and an Oil Glut. Oil prices collapsed and the Soviets did a little later.

>hmm
CINOs giving Marx a bad name

Khrushchev was illiterate during ww2.

>history board
>people still believes communist countries can work despite literally every example proving them wrong
Explain this to me.

There has yet to be communism though.

You give examples. Which countries were communist?

>inb4 if a country claims it's communist and has a red flag that means it's communist
I guess that means that the democratic republic of korea is a democracy

>used a food crisis as an opportunity to pacify Ukraine through mass starvation
HOLY SHIT ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>stalin first to proclaim ukraine as a nation
>more russians and kazakhs die during collectivization reforms than ukies
>mass famines were a common phenomenon in the area, before fucking stalin came along
>conditions unfavorable
>ukrainian genocide

before collectivization, russia was the largest exporter of grain in the world.

grain production collapsed under stalin.

didn't stabilize until the 1960s.

grain production never goes up for the rest of the soviet union.

urban soviet population grows. soviet union has to import more and more grain.

>holodomor

>grain production collapsed under stalin.
yeah but what ur completely not analysing here is the fact that without stalin there would be no fucking grain production at all and that part of russia in the south west would have been annexxed-the-fuck-out

The USSR killed millions and divided countries and families in half. More than just Americans hate them.

the land owning farmers would have kept making huge amounts of grain. as they would have made a profit under the Germans, or anyone else.

>would have made a profit under the Germans
>that part of russia

lol
>what are fucking stolypin reforms?

>Every time someone reformed the economy to be more market driven. Some hardliner came into power and went back Stalinism.

I don't understand, when did they go back to Stalinism? The economic reforms of 65-66 were to restore capitalism and it was successful.

>process of collapsing.

Cuba will collapse because it liberalised its market

>Cuba will collapse because it liberalised its market

seems to be doing excellently so far

>including most brilliant marxist theorists at the time

who lol

They really need a McDonalds

kek

>communist
>state
wew lad

>Tovarishch Potsky, zis is Tovarish General Secretary Commisar Kettlesky. You are black.

CCCP never was, nor claimed to be, communist.

sure wasn't working towards a free unregulated market either.

if they couldn't achieve it no one will.

>My great grandfather was one of the original chekists.

Was he purged?

Just because they weren't aiming for a free market doesn't make them de facto Communists.

The greatest misconception of communism and socialism are that they're optional. That they can be tried out. That's not what Marx theorized in the slightest.

Marx believed that communism would be the natural end result of capitalism after its failures eventually folded in on it.

Tldr; USSR wasn't Communist but the United States may be in a century.

No but white guard burned his family.