and thats not even with ludicrous+
And thats not even with ludicrous+
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all that from a 4 door family car thats built like a tank to achieve 5 star safety.
And it didn't make a sound doing it.
I want Tesla Motors and all his puppet social media shills out of this board.
You guys are worse than GM and Ford shills.
>with terrible interior quality
>with terrible panel gaps
>with cancerous paid software updates
>reliability issues
AND it cant even turn a corner
Yanks and their straight line performance is hilarious
the Telsa slows down after around 200km/h whereas the Lambo will pull well into the deep 300km+
>Cant even last 10 minutes at full power
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>“The lap itself was around 10 minutes Bridge to Gantry (in heavy traffic) but unfortunately the car went into a reduced power mode about 3 minutes in due to excess battery heat (at least, that’s my guess).”
AHHAHAHAHHA
3 MINUTES
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Are we being raided again by Tesla paid shills?
Its a family car not a sports car, why does it beat sports cars twice its price?
If i made sports cars i sure would be embarrassed. I mean you can say all you want about how shitty of a car the tesla is but then the fact remains that it just beat all the other cars out there.
>why does it beat sports cars twice its price?
It doesnt
It goes into protection mode after 3 minutes on a track/spirited road driving and turns back into a slow boat.
A base Spec v8 Camero will KILL it and i am sure even a 4 door Charger could keep up
Tesla shills dont exist since tesla doesnt spend money on marketing.
they just get jewtubers to shill it
>It doesnt
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Huh. Would you look at that.
THATS STRAIGHT LINE PERFORMANCE YOU FUCKING STUPID SEPPO CUNT
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IT CANT EVEN LAST 3 MINUTE AT FULL POWER WITHOUT OVERHEATING ON A TRACK/TOUGE/STREET RACING
Then the shills even have issues with them
>infamous powersteering
>Autopilot fuckups
>???
DELET DELET DELET
GET THE FUCK OFF OF THIS BOARD
NOOOOOW!!!!
ICE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPERIOR
Wow you seem mad. that often happens to low iq liberals when they cant defend their positions.
Maybe try and call me a racist? might have more luck with that :)
because your fucking WRONG
You guys aren't even doing this unironically now.
Fuck off.
not an argument sweetie
Not sure if Tesla marketer or really stupid person.
Anyway fuck off.
yeah this cunt is fucked in the head
>2.38 seconds to 60
>300 miles of range
>2 trunks
>autopilot
>world's safest car
>that sweet 17 inch touch screen
>backseats to comfortably fuck in
How can anyone not love this car?
>fucked in the head
kinda like ice drivers by choosing to get inside something prone to spontaneous combustion
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>>world's safest car
>Steering doesn even work
Yeah really safe isnt it
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This is fucking amazing but the car has ISSUES that you are IGNORING like overheating, steering and other problems
Wonder which would win in a 24 hour race between the two.
why ice fags sperg so hard over a sedan? lol
the lambo would catch on fire at some point
the tesla would overheat after 3 minutes or less and then the steering would stop working and slam into a wall
When they can make an electric car that has
>comparable weight to petrol sports cars (bugatti not included)
>comparable price to average sports cars (doesnt have to run quarter miles as quick as the p100d in the video at this price point obviously)
>not just a one trick straight-line performance pony, good in corners too (low center of gravity should actually help here)
>over 300 miles per charge normally
>over 150 miles per charge when flogging it (my old mustang got ~11 mpg when i lead footed it, so 150 total miles of range is comparable)
>recharge time in the same amount of time that it takes a gas car to refill
>abundant recharging stations
>not sure if im forgetting anything else outside of environmental issues regarding making the batteries and generating electricity
Then they will have made petrol cars obsolete. Maybe they could add a mode that simulates a stick shift to appease people who enjoy having one. They havent made any cars like this yet, so for now electric cars remain econoboxes and instant tork wonders that cant compete anywhere outside of going to the store and a quarter mile drag strip
Same kind of people who try to convince themselves that carburetors are better than EFI. Luddites afraid of change deluding themselves into thinking their way is best no matter what.
Their great grandparents were probably the ones who thought cars were ridiculous 150 years ago and everyone would always ride in horse drawn buggies
the truth hurts. that's why
Because its a new car company with alot of technical bugs and issues and you shill faggots put up with it and ignore it.
The spotlight is on Tesla because they are new and extremely popoular but its no excuse for this amount of shilling
Short answer?
>Battery Tech isnt far enough along yet but its making strides, weight, range and heating/cooling will improve in time
>Price is just because its a new car on a new platform and its a new country with a premium feel and the pricing reflects that.
If it flops i wont be happy but at the same time i am happy with my 16 year old ICE project
I'm all for instantaneous linear power, but I needz dat sound and vibrationz to put me in the zone.
>shills will deny this actually happens
They are a Quality Control and Reliability Nightmare
It's heavy as fuck. I'd buy a Tesla in a second if I had the cash as it's a near perfect appliance car but as far as a fun car goes it's incredibly lacking.
>Why are ICE's so shit???
Lots of power loss between the engine and wheels.
Too many moving parts inside the engine.
Too many moving parts inside the transmission.
No instant torque.
No regenerative brakes.
Too much heat loss.
why would ice fags rather fuck a dirty tailpipe then admit the superiority of ev's?
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>no regrets
so are you saying a tesla beating an ice is bait?
or does it become bait when you point out that fact?
no gearbox
muh driver involvement
>beat by a certain metric
>"that metric doesnt count!!!!"
this is called moving the goalposts.
>Drag races
>Relevant
Drag races are for fun and competition wise its just testing their acceleration and/or max speed. It doesn't really ... you get the point.
If you need to prove which car is faster, hit a track.
my 1.6l vagbox gets 33 mpg
i bought it for 19k
tesla fags btfo
I can beat a fucking top fuel dragster in my econobox, I don't see your point in claiming that an act that is not even considered a race but a pissing contest for rednecks determines which car is better.
teslafags think a rear race ends at the quarter mile mark
tslafags think that if they saw that lambo on the highway it wouldnt walk it
teslafags think that 150mph is fast
>low iq liberals
0/10 bait, didn't even do research
Electric motors are fantastic from a standing start, everybody knows this. Unfortunately EVs struggle as soon as cornering comes into the equation due to the weight of their batteries.
Electric motors can provide 100% of the torque at any RPM.
whats the point of drag races if you just use a car that you didn't modified at all.
name 2 electric cars that can sustain speeds of 170mph
name any electric car that can drive over 120mph AT LENGTH
tell me what time ANY tesla completes the standing mile in
No you can't you idiotic motherfucker
A top fuel dragster accelerates to 300mph before you've even finished reading this fucking sentence.
>I can beat a fucking top fuel dragster in my econobox
Not even in your wildest fantasies.
I'm pretty sure any econobox can beat a Top Fuel dragster around something that involves a turn.
Also, I'm pretty sure an econobox can beat a Top Fuel dragster at a 100 mile dragrace.
Around an autocross I can
I doubt it. It would be at the turn and they could walk it around the turn before you were even off the line.
Actually EVs tend to have their batteries stored under the floor, which is favorable in terms of overall weight distribution.
Surely less weight in the same distribution was even better, but a top heavy light car will corner just as badly if not worse than a heavy car with a low center of gravity.
The second the throttle was closed the engine would cut out or not run half as good as it did a split second before
Electric cars are great at acceleration - so when marketing machine Mr Musk tried to profile his new electric cars as somewhat sporty, of course he emphasised rapid acceleration from a standstill. Doing this early in development, combined with the inherent advantages of the electric motors, means a pigfat Model S or X can do amazing things.
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Anyways, they don't perform well around tracks, since they're heavy, and they still adhere to the laws of physics. They don't do endurance well, because they lack quick resource resupply. They don't do extended acceleration into high speeds well, it's just the short spring to 100MPH they exceed in.
Cherrypicking this and claiming they're superior overall is a falsehood.
>EV's
>Being clean
Yes, because those batteries are being made by Chinese fairies, and the electricity isn't made in a coal plant.
The only way a 90-100% EV car society could work without being significantly polluting would be to go full nuclear - and even that doesn't solve the battery issue.
It would be at the turn, they'd need to reuild the engine, rpeack the chutes, and by that time you're in the next county.
>and the electricity isn't made in a coal plantations
what did he mean by this
But that's the best part. The Tesla isn't even made for drag racing but it still kicks your Lambo's ass.
>what did he mean by this
A coal-burning power plant.
>The Tesla isn't even made for drag racing but it still kicks your Lambo's ass.
Yes it is. Acceleration from a standstill is the single measure of sportyness Musk has chased from day one.
Yeah it was made to be a sports car except it's slow as fuck around corners.
ok so no tesla has ever competed in the standing mile
its because they know they would have a slower time than most all cars even the high performance suvs will have a faster standing mile time
>$140k spaceship
Can't even beat a truck.
we can do some basic math and find out that even THE WORLDS FASTEST TESLA
can only do the standing mile in 40-42 seconds
which is terrible and thats assuming it didnt stop accelerating at 150mph
I dunno if I'm completely uninformed, but isn't that what the gigafactory is for in Nevada? Making batteries?
Damn, looks like Tesla lost all those customers looking to buy a $150k luxury sedan to run bone stock in the standing mile. How will they sell any cars without that demographic?
Sure, they're making them there - but where do the resources come from? That's a huge environmental burden, several times that of steel and aluminium and other metals that are much more common.
This. Stick with gasoline, which is farmed organically at gas stations, not drilled out of the ground and refined like lithium is.
Consumables for both gasoline and electric vehicles are about the same in terms of pollution - whether it's gasoline burning locally, or coal burning in a centralised plant to provide electricity.
You can't compare that consumable with the resources needed to create a vehicle. There might not even be enough lithium and such to get a significant electric car percentage in the market before the price starts hiking even more than it already does. Our grid isn't made to supply even a 20% electric car society. Hell, we might not even have enough power plants for that.
Also, funny that you mention it, because ethanol-based biofuels exist - although they're a burden on our food supply.
No. They provide 100% power at any rpm.
Tesla is crashing and burning
They cant possible recover now.
Its over EV Cucks. Oil Wins
What is this garbage about tesla's being safe? Fucking bullshit they light on fire if so much as bumb another car, pic related.
Teslas are good for occasional thrills from hard acceleration at stop lights and on-ramps, at public road speeds, but cannot handle continuous hard driving on a track. That is also true of many of Veeky Forums's favorite versions of the Mustang, Camaro, etc. They can only handle a few laps before their brakes fade and their engines need to cool down. But unless you go to a track, most owners will never experience those limitations, so the manufacturers don't care.
Porsche claims to cover about 4 out of 6 of your criteria with their Mission E. We'll have to wait and see how it lives up to expectations.
>we aren't prepared for it now, so it will never work!
what a retarded argument. do you think people were saying the same thing before gas stations were everywhere?
>He thinks a gt350 or zl1 will only last a few laps
Lmao retard, they will run for half an hour easily no problems. Meanwhile the tesla literally physically cannot complete a lap of the nurburgring under full power.
yeah kinda embarrassing such a poorly made car can still beat any other ICE car in existence in a 1/4 mile race while seating 7 people and also being the safest car ever made.
man if i was a fan of ICE i sure would try and keep that to myself.
Hellcat charger runs 10 second quarter miles while also seating 4 and being a fat sedan
and it costs less
Stay btfo evcuck
>seating 4 full sized Americans, not 7 skinny shit ecocucks
Forgot to put that in
>not liking both
>inb4 damage control
Lmao tesla shit is slower than a cheap ass dodge nigger mobile TOP KEK WHAT A SHIT COMPANY TESLA IS
>HELLCAT BEAT TESLA IN A RACE THAT NO TESLA WAS AT
>TESLA BTFO
Yes you really do sound this retarded.
I would much rather have the Huracan
FIND ME A VIDEO OF A TESLA
ANY TESLA
ANY MODEL WHATSOEVER
COMPLETING THE STANDING MILE
Show me a tesla run 10s otherwise stay btfo
show me an ice that does 2.39 0-60 for under 180000 or stay btfo
extra credit: find an ice that does a 2.39 0-60 and gets better than 90 mpge
>show me an ice that does 2.39 0-60 for under 180000 or stay btfo
Suzuki GSX-R1000
>0-60 in 2.35 seconds
>MSRP of 15K USD
MPGe ratings are biased.
Now find me a Tesla that'll do 10's, or goes around a track faster than a C63 or Giulia QV, which are half the price.
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stay assblasted
No combustion, no soul.
The Tesla is a marvel of modern technology, but it just seems like a soulless toy instead of a living, breathing machine you can connect with.
>mfw electriconlyfags will never know the feeling of getting hot and dirty working on their pride and joy
in case you wanted an actual tesla
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How much does that bike cost?
Meanwhile, Dunlop and Martin are riding round after round while the EV bike gets recharged.
damn you got me there
Any motorcycle
How to show nothing in 2 minutes and 9 seconds: the video.
>about the same in terms of pollution
[citation needed]
How in the fuck did this meme even gain traction?
nah, im not gonna let this die
this board deserves shit posting.