Why is the internet turning into shit, Veeky Forums ?
I'm sure there's some rational explanation to why people enjoy such a meaningless, empty experience. I'm talking about Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Buzzfeed, what you'd call the "normie web".
Recently, I've been getting into very heated arguments with people who think things like the Facebook algorithm or Youtube censorship are OK. "They're private companies", they say. "They can do what they want." Which means they're OK with their digital experience being created by and to the profit of advertisers.
All of this for the same generic sanitised content, the same meaningless numeric stampedes, over and over. I'm pretty sure everything was better ten years ago. Or maybe I'm mistaken and I'm getting old and grumpy.
What is the problem ? How did it happen ? Is there a rational explanation ?
>Why is the internet turning into shit, Veeky Forums ? Because you dislike change
Isaac Evans
>What is the problem ? How did it happen ? Is there a rational explanation ?
The perverse incentives created by the advertising economy are the core of it. Expertise and literature on 'driving user engagement' (read: porting slot machine style addiction engineering over to the web) has also built up significantly in the last decade.
This isn't history, though.
Nathan Perry
Because it's worse
Ian Collins
The real internet will never go away because, without it, the memes would dry up.
Nathaniel Hall
Veeky Forums, a few forums, and the occasional news article are the only things I still browse, the internet has become boring and sterile. The worst part is that I spent so much of my youth on the computer I have no other hobbies to replace it
Jaxson Myers
OP here, I don't think I do. But I can't deny I miss what I remember as a "dangerous" and exciting internet, when getting rich wasn't the main concern of people creating websites and online services
I'm working around people who speak about this kind of shit regularly, it's tiring. I also feel the internet became a prolongement of our material selves. You can't be X on the streets, Y on the internet. I feel like it seems normal for a lot people - the idea of an internet to "liberate" one's self does not excite them.
Brayden Williams
>I'm sure there's some rational explanation to why people enjoy such a meaningless, empty experience. I'm talking about Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Buzzfeed, what you'd call the "normie web". How are these things empty and meaningless? I reject your claims until you provide evidence.
>"They're private companies", they say. "They can do what they want." Which means they're OK with their digital experience being created by and to the profit of advertisers. Why isn't it okay? Where is it written in the fabric of the cosmos that what they're doing is wrong? Where does it say on the quark of an atom that their behavior is immoral?
>All of this for the same generic sanitised content, the same meaningless numeric stampedes, over and over. I'm pretty sure everything was better ten years ago. Were you using the internet ten years ago? This website was nothing but mudkips and shoop da woop, and myspace was a shittier version of facebook.
What are you freaking out about even. "Wahhh my opinions!" this isn't your blog fuck off.
Nathaniel Davis
Facebook, Twitter and Buzzfeed are just today what TV and tabloid garbage was yesterday. The average person was always consuming this kind of shit, only in different forms. 10-15 years ago, everyone on the internet was an IT nerd and/or rich, and when it became cheap and more easily accessible, the bleps started to join and some people made a fortune catering to their needs.
But it's not like you have to go on these shitty sites, the internet is still huge, you can just find and go to whichever sites suit your tastes.
Thomas James
>a platform where people can consume and say what they want is shit No shit, Sherlock. It has always been like this.
Also this has nothing to do with Veeky Forums, fuck off.
Cooper Scott
>Facebook, Twitter and Buzzfeed are just today what TV and tabloid garbage was yesterday.
The media never fawned over tabloids like it fawns over Twitter.
Wyatt Torres
Two words.
GAMER
GATE
Carson Watson
>when getting rich wasn't the main concern of people creating websites and online services
>He wasn't here during the Dot-com bubble
Caleb Garcia
Pick up drawing so you can draw porn all day and have a your own business entirely online.
Landon Peterson
>the idea of an internet to "liberate" one's self The dream of the internet allowing individuals to liberate their minds by allowing them to access a previously unfathomable amount of information didn't take into account that people may just use it to look at cat pictures or just shore up their political opinions. Libraries suffer from the same issue.
Jason Walker
They do? I only saw them praising these as business successes (they really are impressive from that regard), not for the content, which is user generated anyways, so it varies greatly.
Luke Ramirez
Tell me which board was more appropriate than Veeky Forums for this subject
I was talking about websites and e-mail or downloading services. dot-com bubble was about computer companies and ISPs
It's about knowledge, yes, but above all else free expression. What you can say in the material world, you can say it on the internet.
Michael Wright
>but above all else free expression. I'm not sure how many people actually cared about this. At most you get people who are for/against free expression when it benefits them so its okay if a private company censors something they dislike but not okay when they censor something they like.
Noah Morgan
lol implying it wasn't already shit. Did you just find interwebz?
Nathaniel Perez
>Tell me which board was more appropriate than Veeky Forums for this subject /b/
I don't even know how you could think this would be appropriate for Veeky Forums.
Sebastian Phillips
I feel like back then, the internet was about people throwing their own shit at each other. Right know, they still do but they're getting shitted on for money at the same time - and like it.
Because /b/ isn't the place to have constructive discussions (I'm really sorry for you if you think so) and because the "humanities" which "history and humanities" references include anthropology and philosophy, two disciplines useful to answer my questions, I think. I also thought an historic insight would be a good thing. I am looking for this kind of answers :
Ayden Lewis
The current state of the internet is similar to the American west in the early 1900's. Still wild and lawless but dying.
Anthony Smith
muh internet is not humanities (I'm really sorry for you if you think so).