>faster than a 675LT with less power and more weight on worse tires Ford is GOAT.
Camden Clark
>in an uncontrolled test conducted by Ford >on a track in bumfuck nowhere with no control times
Luke James
Still faster.
Austin Gomez
at this level they're all really good and it's just splitting hairs
Levi Lopez
except its a ford and looks like shit
Josiah Ross
OK. Fact check time. >638HP True. Most sources put it right around 630 to 638 >Weigh 3000lbs No. It's 2890
On a side note, Ford claims this go have the highest power to weight ratio of any car ever. Does the Koenigsegg 1 : one or whatever it's called not count?
Michael Murphy
They must only be counting among "major" manufacturers.
638hp and 3890lb is still pretty respectable. It looks like it has good aerodynamics and really stiff chassis going for it, too. So I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms its power:weight like the Viper ACR does. But whether it's actually faster around all these tracks than the Viper ACR is the real test.
Go read this link (source: Ford themselves), and it'll say: >Ford GT’s dry weight just tops 3,000 pounds So slightly over 3000 pounds dry, and well over 3000 wet/kerb weight.
Sebastian Gonzalez
>Mhu Feels Go back to 86 threads.
Hunter White
Huh, alright, cool. Looks like we'll have to wait for some magazines to get their hands on a car to get real life, assured numbers. Seems like every source is giving something different
Anthony Campbell
Oh I'm sure it will be fast as all hell. And I'd bet you are right when you say only major manufacturers. Even though I don't particularly like Ford, I hope they don't fuck it up like Honda did with the new NSX.
Ayden Miller
Nobody manufacturer is going to try and set hot laps in the middle of nowhere.
Until it sets laps on tracks people give a shit about, like Laguna/Willow/Burgerking we don't know how fast it is.
Blake Thomas
But the NSX wasn't 's fuck up, it's fast and is more or less a 918 Spyder for a tenth of the price
>but muh feels These idiots have never driven an NSX
Thomas Bailey
>Calabogie raceway is bumfuck nowhere It's right next to Ottawa and it's a pretty fucking long and top tier track
William Richardson
Then why aren't there any laptimes published by other manufacturers on that track? All I can find is motorcycles and chumpcar.
Besides, wouldn't it have been easier to just go to Laguna Seca or Willow? I know they're manufacturing the GT in Canada, but it makes no sense to test your car on a track doesn't have industry support, and a wide range of laptimes - unless you want to cover something up.
Also, comparing the GT with a 458 is kinda wierd. There's a 3 second gap around CMP (~2 minute laptimes) - but a 458 is 2 seconds slower around Fiorano than a 488 (a ~1:30 minute track). I think that a 488 will get very close to a GT, even around CMP - but Ford just didn't want to confirm or deny that suspicion.
Jace Bailey
It's a relatively new track. I'm kind of hoping more manufacturers start testing there, all we have so far is Nissan Micra cup cars
Michael Miller
The "problem" with the new NSX is that it didn't live up to the monstrous (and mostly unrealistic) expectations set by the old one. It's a perfectly fine car, it just hasn't had fanboys masturbating to it for 25 years.
Blake Hall
Aww shit, replied to wrong comment. This is the correct one.
Easton Martin
It's about an hour away from me. Been on it a couple of times. Would love to see it take off and do well internationally, but...
I don't see it being anybody's favorite anytime soon. It's HELL on brakes, more so than the average track. High speed straights into hairpins.
Also no spectator area and it is about 30 minutes past bum fuck nowhere.
Connor Taylor
So the 488 GTB is superior. Eh, can't say it's a surprise.
Justin Morales
It's about 3054 dry with 120 in fluids, so 3174 lbs. At 638hp, it's about the same power to weight as the Viper ACR.
Except the ACR costs two-fifths the price, has more torque, is faster despite being manual, and gets better fuel economy despite having an 8.4L engine.
Displacelets and turbofags will never learn.
Ian Thompson
LS master race here can we be friends?
Ayden Perez
Sure friend
LS7 a best
Parker Kelly
It does? The ACR gets about 10-13 mpg IIRC
So much for muh Ecoboost
Noah Price
B-B-But, it's supposed to beat anything apart from the 918 user. I thought the GT was the god masheen.
Also speaking of the ACR, viper owners are crowdfunding a snek trip to the nordschleife so it can beat the record again for extra bragging rights.
go to go fund me and add take-back-the-ring-record after the com/ (remover the spaces cause Veeky Forums thinks it's spam) Are you hype? I know I am.
Henry Cox
Viper gets 12MPG city, 21MPG highway according to EPA testing (15MPG combined).
The Ford GT has the worst rating of any 2017 Ford vehicle: 11MPG city, 18 MPG highway, for a combined rating of 14MPG.
>Ecoboost
Michael Jenkins
>The Ford GT has the worst rating of any 2017 Ford vehicle: 11MPG city, 18 MPG highway, for a combined rating of 14MPG. That's hilarious. A combined 14MPG from a 3.5L engine.
You'd think it'd be one of the most fuel efficient supercars, not the worst.
Josiah Gray
FORD™ is proud to announce that in a FORD™ conducted test at Literally, Who? Raceway, Nowhere, Canada; the FORD™ GT™ was driven by FORD™s Trained Professionals faster than several competitors that did not attend the test.
Place your order for the 2017 FORD™ GT™ now! Oh wait, you can't, just buy a 488 or 650S instead then..
Jacob Martin
Too bad the 488 is the ugliest mid engined Ferrari ever made, so it rules that out.
Easton Russell
>Fiorano laptimes You know those are completely made up so Ferrari can shill their newest model, right?
Joshua Lewis
>650 hp >why doesn't it get good gas mileage????? durrr
Nathaniel Anderson
>muh feelings how's your vagina today
Aaron Russell
The track is probably nearby where they're engineering it. After all the ferd is built in Canada
Jason Thomas
>cares only about numbers >doesn't care if a car is enjoyable
This the definition of benchracing.
Jose Collins
An 8 liter v10 gets better mixed mileage. Let that sink in.
Alexander Myers
647hp and 11/18 mpg... last years entry level ferrari has 660hp and 15/22 mpg.
I was going to buy a ford gt, but after these numbers i'm pretty disappoint, i'll stick to my dx hatch, which is lighter, gets much better mpg, and with a few simple mods, is probably faster.
The performance of this car blows more than its two turbines.
Lincoln Adams
>The performance of this car blows more than its two turbines.
These turbines will probably blow in more ways than one.
Colton Rivera
>Kerb Wut
Evan Stewart
Curb weight, aka with all fluids
Evan Long
>no! it doesn't count! rotflmao. btfo by a v6 f150
ford is goat
Parker Price
Motor trend reported it weighs 3300 pounds fully soaked.
Angel Clark
With the world's longest gearing......
Gavin Sanchez
>gm shills start a thread falsefalgging and shitposting >slowly disappear really makes me think
Christopher Watson
Literally grasping at straws
Charles Johnson
not an argument.
Thomas Bennett
>btfo by a v6 ford Rotflmao
HOW ENBARRASING!
Brody Ross
sad
Aiden Jackson
oh look, a retard who doesn't understand that an engine doesn't make peak power at every RPM and 10% load, but who wastes time commenting anyway
durrrr
Isaiah Brooks
wtf i love ford now
Levi Ortiz
neither is a supposed high tech "ecoboost" engine getting worse mpg than a truck pushrod engine, a high revving twin turbo v8 flatplane ferrari, and a mclaren lol
Jason Johnson
>what is a powerband >The engine’s wide powerband produces 90 percent of its peak torque from 3,500 rpm. durrrr
Colton Howard
>Mclaren literally cannot compete with a v6 ford ROTFLMAO
goalposts moving in 3 2 1
Camden Phillips
which is really a testament to its torque considering the performance it offers.
Easton Williams
what a pigfat piece of shit
Jonathan Morris
The Gen V Viper is known for having shorter gears and thus gets worse mileage than the Gen IV
Try again.
Gabriel Martinez
chill your autism bud, neither of us can speak about performance until all cars are tested in 3rd party comparisons
Robert Ross
>buying a 650hp supercar >caring about gas mileage
EL EM AYY LMAO
fucking plebs
Isaac Gonzalez
>v8 fags get btfo by the rxc turbo >then get btfo by a modified f150 rotflmao it's already faster. keep sperging. rotflmao.
Landon Murphy
>no! the times are fake! >FORD IS LYING!!!! you literally can't make this hurt up
It looks like Ford nailed the downforce on this thing and blew everyone the fuck out.
Aiden Gomez
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
MCLAREN WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN!!!! IT WAS OUR TURN!
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP
Elijah Lopez
I'm honestly confused about the GT's target audience.
Who's going to look at Lambos, Ferraris, Porsches, McLarens, and every other supercar and think to themselves "nah, I'll get a Ford."?
It's baffling.
Evan Powell
The 6500 people who applied to buy one?
Nathaniel Thompson
You can't estimate the laptimes of cars based on how they did on different tracks, there a some variables which can affect the laptime in ways you can't predict, the incline, the turns, the lengths of the straights, etc. The car may not react and be considerably slower on one track than on another even if they are the same length.
Asher Watson
holy shit, you still don't know what load means, but you commented again
You actually know nothing about cars.
actually kys
Anthony Sanders
If it had another badge you would go full boner
Samuel Turner
Well, I guess so, but why? Ford fanboyism? What makes the GT competitive?
Eli Jackson
it's faster than the competition
Angel Myers
Found the Miata/86 driver
Matthew Lee
harder to get than a ferrari
Evan Turner
>Dodge
Nicholas Evans
Kinda weirds me out how emotionally invested Veeky Forums is in seeing x brand or x car fail or succeed, whatever their personal metric for such may be
I'd be happy with a clean car with a nice noisy engine that I'm capable of working on myself regardless of brand, not really sure what the point is here.
Adrian Nelson
I don't think Veeky Forums really understands the concept of personal taste
Carson Hill
It looks sexy. I don't like Ford but even I can admit that.
Jason Roberts
Looks ugly inside and out imo. actually its the biggest turnoff for me. Even if it did have a V8, V10 or V12 i still couldn't put a poster of it on my wall unfortunately.
Jack Baker
Here's that "I have no idea what personal taste is" thing I was talking about.
I know Veeky Forums likes to think it is an authority on cars but I think you need to go and look up what 'subjective' means again. Just because you or ALL of Veeky Forums (HINT: Every board on Veeky Forums hates things that people who aren't from Veeky Forums like, it doesn't mean you're right or that 'the fucking normies' are stupid, it means you're a contrarian jackwagon.) thinks its ugly or shit at the end of the day the majority of Veeky Forums doesnt even have lubemonkey-tier knowledge of vehicles and your opinions are just that.
Opinions.
Glad you feel that way. Doesn't make it a fact.
Chase Taylor
Every review has said the car is shit house.
Dominic Nguyen
Am i looking at a copypasta or does he not know that "imo" = "In My Opinion"?
Jace Bennett
A little of both.
Im drunk.
Jack Brown
appears as though you've unwittingly baited him
Dominic Ortiz
They sold out so obviously there is a market for them.
Gavin Perry
You have no way of knowing this
Leo Sanchez
Also sounds like shit
Caleb Butler
>How long untill this Dodge sends the ACR out to Bumfuck Nowhere, Canada, and resets that lap record?
The viper owners of america are crowdfunding a trip to nordschleife for 2 sneks to retake the record from the 918
Jack Ortiz
so what, you will NEVER own one.
I can appreciate this car without other peoples thoughts about it.
Deal with it . jpg
Lucas Reyes
>implying the Viper has taller gears
>2017 Viper >Top speed: 193MPH
>2017 Ford GT >Top speed: 216MPH
Jason Reyes
Kerb weight (UK) or curb weight (US) is the weight of a vehicle as it could sit at the kerb/curb outside your house: that includes all fluids. Kerb weight is always higher than dry weight (without fluids).
Benjamin Thompson
So, in order to settle that, why didn't Ford bring a 488? Or, for that matter, why didn't they test at a track with publicly known laptimes?
As it sits, it's an uncontrolled test, with substandard competitors (458), on a track that nobody can compare to.
Levi Baker
>3.5L V12 Ecoboost GT This would've salvaged the entire deal. Hell, even a 5.2 twinturbo Voodoo would have been fine but no sir, Ford is dominated by marketeers nowadays.
Parker Garcia
Having sold out without a single spec of information about performance is brilliant marketing, not brilliant engineering, and I think the GT is a perfect example of a highly-limited Veblen good.
Jaxson Gray
>so what, you will NEVER own one. But there is a possibility I might one day own a 488 or 650. I will never own an inferior GT, because A. it'll be slower once Ford isn't doing the testing and B. they're extremely limited in their production.
Tyler Young
>aerodynamics don't exist
Jaxon Jackson
According to that chief engineer post, they cared most about driving feel, because they essentially knew they couldn't make a 700hp beast.
Almost all the research went into feedback and feel.
I think it looks fantastic, it really grew on me.
As said, super cars now need super drivers to win the numbers race, so it's not really much about that anymore.
Wish they went for the coyote, but as the engineers said, it was meant to be an ecoboost billboard and they couldn't run the 8 reliably enough.
Ethan Sanders
> they essentially knew they couldn't make a 700hp beast. They could have made it a 4.0L engine instead, then it'd be over 700hp. What?
Noah Cooper
>ford >designing an engine Kek The 3.5 is a mazda engine. Ford couldnt even do that.