/dmt/ daily manual thread

It's just claps bragging about something that is commonplace everywhere else.

>am I allowed to just keep it in 1st or R, have the clutch in and just let the car roll off naturally to get out?

Bad practice.

Get into the habit of clutching in partially (or fully if its long enough).

You don't generally want to roll anywhere in neutral. The engine powers your vacuum assisted brakes, your power steering, your ABS and traction control. Everything.

On a cold night with headlamps and blowers and other electrical systems on, try turning the wheel to straighten up whilst coasting at 2mph. You'll notice a dip in engine speed / the lights etc.

When did he say the engine would be off? Also in what world does the engine have anything to do with the ABS or traction control, and what difference would those two make in this instance?

a relative of mine has a 944 and a steep driveway and they just roast the clutch going up it.

Well, europeans like things small: countries, homes, cars, bulls.
They start these threads because their neighbors live basically on top of them, and have already heard this shit multiple times.

but, your mum likes things big: body mass index, dick in her mouth, steak.

>your mum
Don't get all butthurt, yuropoor loser

can I use just the clutch at biting point to get the car moving for maneuvers/parking (no gas at all)

Yes.

The real question is why do Europeans post on Veeky Forums at all? It's impossible for the average person to be involved in the automotive hobby in a meaningful way in Europe, it's way too cost prohibitive, many countries outlaw modifying cars and motorsports, there are no amateur track events accessible to non millionaires, 99.9% of Europeans drive a 1.1 liter diesel hatchback. Veeky Forums and /k/ should not allow EU IPs, they really have nothing to bring to the conversation.

This. They only cause shitposting and sour grapes.
Euro range ban when, chink moot?

Why should we exclude people?

I could say, for example, most US posters only drive automatics, and therefore aren't enthusiasts for some reason or another. What I'm trying to say is why do we need a thread about a certain shifter type. Why does it really matter enough for its own thread?

Mai guudd, none of this makes sense.

>get into the habit of clutching in partially
OP wants to coast down his drive, what the fuck are you saying clutch partially in?

>don't roll anywhere in neutral
Do you drive a manual? You know it's perfectly fine to be in neutral right?
>because the engine powers everything
Yeah neutral doesn't somehow disengage your electrics. Also, turn your keys two notches where it's marked 'ACC' and don't start your engine. Come back here and tell me the electrical systems didn't start up you idiot.

>having multiple things hogging the battery while turning your wheel will cause a dip in engine speed and power
Ah yes because a brown out during normal car operation is acceptable and many cars make it to market with such a massive fucking problem that is fundamentally avoided when making anything electrical/electronic.
>dip in engine speed
Why would the engine idle lower to supposedly compensate for lack of electrical power. Do you know how an alternator works? The mechanical load is constant, and miniscule because practically zero friction and extremely low weight. It will not slow the engine down, ever.

rigth here in south america literally every car is manual
in usa most cars are auto?

>Bad Practice
This is 100% correct, but it's the only correct point in your post.
In gear, clutch out, let the engine control your vehicle speed with a gentle modulation of the brakes IF it runs away.
You're driving a manual. The whole benefit of a manual is having 100% drive and being able to directly influence the drive wheels with engine speed. If you're neutral coasting downhill or to a stop you may as well be driving a slushbox.

Daily reminder that the only reason euros drive autos is because they are too poor to afford autos.

I'm guessing you wanted to forget you typed that.

Do I actually have to shift down through each gear to come to a stop (e.g. 3 -> 2 -> 1 -> N)? I usually just shift into neutral and apply the brake until the car comes to a stop (e.g. 3 -> N + brake). I find that if I intentionally try to shift down through each gear I either need to begin stopping way in advance or the engine braking from the downshift isn't enough and I need to apply the brakes anyway.

I still downshift if I need to slow down to adjust to traffic conditions or corners, etc. (e.g. 3 -> 2), but if I need to shift down multiple gears I usually drop into neutral, match revs, then shift into the new gear (e.g. 4 -> N + brake -> throttle + 2).

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You don't have to follow every gear, but it's good practice to stay engaged in a gear whenever necessary.
Just shift back to second when the gear you're in drops below its usable rev range, and clutch in when the engine reaches close enough to idle in second as you come to a stop.
Coasting to a stop disengaged, you may as well pilot a slushbox.

>coasting to a stop disengaged, you may as well pilot a slushbox
How does this make any sense at all? Why be in gear when it is pointless? If you're coming to a stop, just throw it into neutral, use what speed you have to carry you to the stop and once you get there, you don't have to hold the clutch in.

If the light is just turning green and there is no one in the stop in your lane, just cruise until you hit the stopping point or the light turns green.

There is no point in having to hold in the clutch when there isn't a valid reason too. Retard.

>IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HOLD IN THE CLUTCH, ALL THE TIME. MIGHT AS WELL BUY AN AUTOTRAGIC XDDD
that is how you sound, faggot.

these threads are for americans
the non retarded world knows how to drive manuals

keep being mad.
We get cheap jdm export like skylines and supras, we get gun rights added instead of removed, we actually have corners and our entire car industry isn't destroyed every 10 years by jap and euro imports to the point we have to ban american cars.

Also drag racing and autos are considered for the mentally or physically disabled

I want to say this is b8, but you seem to generally have no idea what you're talking about

Most people didnt have the luxury.
Or in my case i wanted to but parents are scared shitless of motorbikes.
Neutral to roll. Its there for a reason.
>Banning ips off country
Yeah no thanks.

>How does this make any sense at all? Why be in gear when it is pointless?
Be a use you use you fucking engine to modulate your vehicle speed you retard. It's overall smoother and requires less braking modulation. That's the whole point of a manual transmission, is having the engine directly influence acceleration and deceleration.
>If you're coming to a stop, just throw it into neutral, use what speed you have to carry you to the stop and once you get there, you don't have to hold the clutch in.
Or, snick it into neutral when it runs out of revs!
>There is no point in having to hold in the clutch when there isn't a valid reason too. Retard.
Didn't say you had had to, but I felt as though step by step instruction AFTER the clutch disengagement when pulling to a stop wasn't necessary. Even then, there is no harm in holding the clutch indefinitely at a stop.
>IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HOLD IN THE CLUTCH, ALL THE TIME. MIGHT AS WELL BUY AN AUTOTRAGIC XDDD
I didn't say that either you fucking sped, because that would mean your drive is DISENGAGED.
Get a clue you nimrod.

Looking back, I'm actually 100% convinced you completely misinterpreted, or don't understand the post you're responding to.

Can you heel-and-toe in an automatic? Asking for a friend.

And that would achieve???

it is ALWAYS europeans that bring up manual vs automatic

evidence of this is on boards that show flags

it's just their way of fooling themselves into thinking they're superior in some way, even though driving manual is not hard and should not be considered a skill. in the early days of driving everyone's grandma was doing it.

I dunno, when you have this flog that doesn't have any idea what he's doing, it seems it's not as simple for some people regardless of origin.

>Its there for a reason
Correct, but that reason is not for rolling to a stop.

>I follow every single driving advice I read in a driver's license book.

faaaaaaag just roll it easier and if you cant get in gear quick enough to avoid possible obstacle you shouldnt be driving fag
im in neutral half the time i drive fuck the police

Or you just drive properly, and not be a lowest common denominator retard.
Serious question, are your second toes longer than your big toes?

This is untrue for my 2016 the 5speed mt is still 0.2s faster to 60 than the 6speed auto lol autofags btfo

When I first starting driving I thought that the clutch had to be fully disengaged for the car to move at all. Then my Dad(who designs engines at GM) explained everything to me and damn I learned how to drive manual in that instant.

How do i down shift? I feel fine with the whole idea behind upshifting but when coming to a stop or slowdown for a turn I get a bit confused.

when I start gearing down my car gets a bit jerky

been driving manual for a week now.

I also have trouble driving at parking speeds. I just don't feel as though I have control over the car. either I am going too fast for what I want to do or I end up stalling when I use the brake to try and slow down

No.

Dont be afraid to ride the clutch just a little bit at low speeds. If you need to go real slow, you can let it out halfway for a second to get moving, and then push the pedal back in.

downshifting let the clutch out slower and give it a tap of gas to keep the revs up. gotta do it quick too. it's also not really necessary if you're coming to a stop, you can just stay in whatever gear until the revs get low then clutch in

>How do I downshift?
Depends on how quickly you need to slow yourself. If you need to slow immediately, downshift once you drop below 3000. This aggressive approach is engine breaking. If you're just coasting, or have more time, wait until you're below 2000 before downshifting, and 'blip' the throttle subtly to match the revs of the engine to the new gear you're shifting into. Also, it's not a cardinal sin to stop in third or whatever gear, as long as you're not grinding shit.

To drive at parking lot speed, you'll need good clutch control. Only give it enough gas to raise the tachometer a few hundred RPMs, and ease off the clutch partially, so it begins to roll forward. If you want to drive 5mph/10kph, this is the only way to do it without just lurching forward then coasting.

>ease off the clutch partially, so it begins to roll forward.

is there a certain amount of time I can do this for.i thought doing it this way burns the shit out of it

It's fine to do it to move around in the parking lot. What's really bad for it is when you're starting on a hill and rev the shit out of it and ride the clutch for like 5 seconds

>new automatics* are faster than manuals**
>*dual clutch transmissions operated in "manual" mide
>**standard syncromesh H-pattern gearboxes