Last Thread >What is this? A place to discuss all rogue-lites and related games and topics. Examples: The Binding of Isaac, Nuclear Throne, Enter the Gungeon, Faster than Light, Spelunky, and Rogue Legacy.
>tfw cursed tears quad shot with fucking holy light
fucking ludicrous
Xavier Cooper
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Levi Ramirez
One part of Isaac's decline that nobody seems to talk about but which really bothers me is in the descriptive text accompanying items.
>Old Isaac >Breakfast >HP Up
>New Isaac >[Any Item] >LE EBIN MAYMAY XD
If you don't want people data mining the game, try actually telling us what shit does.
Lucas Wright
this shit is imbalanced
Jose Nelson
Is there any reason to visit Downpour, Mines or Mausoleum once you've unlocked The Corpse?
Like are there specific bonuses for going down into any of them (besides getting the knife)?
Jason Carter
no not really. im assuming that the reality of it being a mod maybe kept them from adding the floors into the pool.
Nolan Hall
Double item rooms.
Luke Perry
The item rooms in them always give you a choice between 2 Going through Mausoleum lets you skip Womb 1 The Knife's not a bad item regardless if you're going to Corpse
Colton Davis
is it possible to buy afterbirth+ then refund it and it will still be active anyway
Daniel Sullivan
Doubled up Item Rooms and Angel Rooms have extra pedestals when items spawn.
Luis Clark
Name the most underrated Rogue-lite.
Ryan Cooper
>tarot cloth in devil room >tarot cloth in greed shop
does taking both of them quadruple cards/rune effects?
Jason Murphy
Try it out and tell us.
Jayden Ross
IIRC yes.
Xavier Cook
Just tried it, one of them gave 2 of Diamonds so it turned out to be the correct play anyway.
Unfortunately they don't stack, 17 coins only went to 68 instead of doubling 3 times.
Lincoln Baker
JUST
Mason Lee
>all these damage ups >5 red hearts yolo that shit
Mason Peterson
DO IT YOU COWARD
Benjamin Mitchell
A crazy combo:
>getting the Book Worm transformation combined with Ludo means that no matter what you do, you can always hear yourself firing
Kevin Peterson
Do it or drop trinket, pick up trinket and walk past.
Jayden Hernandez
>Void the bottle of pills >Void placebo for the meme dream and all the pills I've seen so far have been either neutral or Balls of Steel >turns out theres a Speed Down in the rotation
Anthony Cook
You have nobody to blame but yourself.
Gavin Nelson
>not wanting to figure it out yourself
Charles Evans
you are like baby
Jackson Rivera
God, that was crazy.
Angel Lewis
Some items are so subltle not even the wiki has their effects.
Lucas Brown
Which
Lincoln Jones
Cricket's Head - why wouldn't you want a solid damage boost?
Lucas Long
Yeah, realized i already had scorpio and multiple poisons dont stack.
Jonathan Carter
Well, Mucormycosis makes enemies create fart clouds when enemies die, but yeah, that was an easy choice.
Matthew Nelson
There aren't many that recieve hate that do not deserve every bit of it. You clearly have some in mind, share.
Luis Sanders
>smelted store credit doesnt work anymore
Edmund "McShillen" McMillen Edmund "seizures are fun, not a 1 run" McMillen Fagmund "Don't blame me, it's your PC" McFatten Edmund "Game gives you grin? Item reskin" McMillen. Edmund "Character's perf? Time for a nerf" McMillen Edmund "it's just a bug, now give me a hug" McMillen Edmund "Lower the axe 'til all items are lax" McMillen Eggmund "I'm such a hack, I'll nerf the Sack" McMuffin Edmund "you knew the cost of spoiling the lost" McMillen Edmund "enjoying lilith? too bad she's killith" McMillen Edmund "Nothing is safe, I'll nerf a year late" McMillen Edmund "There'll be no fun until the ARG's done" McMillen Edmund "If it clears a room, the item is doomed" McMillen Edmund "If you're having fun, I'm getting my gun" McMillen Edmund "Eat that steak slow, let the juices flow" McMillen Edmund "open the hatch when you download my patch" McMillen Edmund "If you're feeling gay, a nerf's on the way" McMillen Edmund "If the item's a hit, let's turn it to shit" McMillen Edmund "If there's fun to be had, I'll make it bad" McMillen Edmund "Pull the nerf trigger on every demon nigger" McMillen Fatmund "You don't know how to click, now suck my dick" McDonalds Edmund "Think My Game's Thrillin'? Not With This Villain" McMillen Edmund "Fun is worthless excrement, nerfing is my element" McMillen Edmund "I'd collect unemployment before I'd give you enjoyment" McMillen Edmund "That item there was excellent, now it's barely relevant" McMillen Edmund "Your tears to me are like a choir, it's a bug I'm not a liar" McMillen Edmund "they said the the game was too easy so I just broke everything because I'm fat and lazy" McMillen.
Jaxon Ramirez
>Blank Card 2 of Diamonds is still a thing >But no Smelter Store Credit is too broken Oh come on, nerfing a combination of items that is slightly more rare and exactly as effective as another set of items is just fucking stupid.
Andrew Murphy
Are Monkey Paw and Missing Poster also nerfed?
Wyatt Lee
Cricket's is solid, Mucor isn't great past Caves/Mines cause everything starts to have more HP so fart chains aren't as easy without Giant Bean.
Hudson King
>Store Credit Weird, since Walnut, Tonsil, Wish Bone, and Bag Lunch keep on working.
John Howard
def crickets
Benjamin Kelly
At one point Smelting Store Credit straight up crashed the game so they might have nerfed it cause that was still happening sometimes.
Jason Gomez
>This certain combo crashes the game >Instead of fixing it, let's just not let you get this combo!
Elijah Powell
Has anyone absorbed Blank Card with Void and then used with a "?" card? I crashed the game last time I did that but I haven't found the combo again since.
Angel Bennett
This would hardly be the first time a gaming company has just straight up turned off something they couldn't fix.
Zachary Wood
Sounds like a "bug" from Borderlands 2 I remember fondly. >Krieg, the last DLC character, has a series of really long lines he can start reciting when a special passive of his, Raving Retribution, goes off >They're some of his best lines in the entire game by far >There's a standing bug where if one of his goes off and an NPC starts speaking, it overrides the NPC voice for everyone in a MP match instead of only for the Krieg player who triggered his lines >Instead of fixing it, they just removed his voice lines
>Going for boss rush >A fucking red heart starts running away from me when I desperately need it >IT >FUCKING >RAN >AWAY
I chased that little shit into a corner, but what the fuck was up with that? Is this a fucking joke?
Samuel Johnson
Scared Hearts, they were added in afterbirth+
Enjoy your steak :^)
Levi Jenkins
They're called scared hearts. Wait until you straight up need one to avoid dying and it runs over spikes in the middle of a fight.
Kayden Phillips
funny joke it it a glitch?
Brandon Scott
I thought those had to do with the bad breath item but what is the point of this type of heart? It's just an annoyance and dumb. Mimics add something. These aren't fun at all.
Dominic Hill
It's content added in Afterbirth+. They are working as intended.
Lincoln Rivera
>what is the point of this type of heart? What's the point of any type of heart?
Having rewards that run from you/fight you isn't exactly uncommon in games.
>decent items >half heart >use an unknown pill >telepills >teleports directly on top of an enemy >dies I'm loving it.
Adam Garcia
what the fuck edmund
Brayden Thomas
>taking unknown pills at half a heart
curse rooms exist you know
Anthony Flores
It could have also been a full health pill.
Ayden Nelson
So I beat the hush's first form, and it let me continue to the cathedral without fighting the second form. Is this a glitch, or just something that sometimes happens now?
Eli Morgan
It's a standing glitch that nobody can explain.
Hunter Hernandez
That wasn't hush, it was blue baby Blue baby has a 25% chance to replace hush
Brody Peterson
>Blue baby has a 25% chance to replace hush do you still get the unlock for hush?
Kevin Johnson
Yes
Chase Perez
thank the lord edmund gave us mercy
Jayden Rodriguez
>try the lost on Antibirth >See he doesn't have holy mantle on the character select screen, but does have the d4 >"fuck it, why not" >start game >small glowing aura around the lost >"wait a second..." >run into enemy to check >HE HAS A BUILT IN NON-REROLLABLE HOLY MANTLE
How did breadmund get so btfo'd, /lite/?
Owen Smith
Hit F7.
Lucas Peterson
So can he get the actual Holy Mantle and get 2 free hits per room?
Logan Moore
D4 is now useful on him?
Josiah Perez
Oh. Nevermind. Sadness continues.
Hitting F7 reveals that he does in fact start holding the holy mantle despite it not being listed on his character info. It rerolls it, I was too hopeful.
maybe one day
John Nguyen
What is your favorite gun In EtG, the one that make you say "this run gonna be a cakewalk" Alternatively what is your least favorite gun
Ryder Morales
>Card Against Humanity >Use in a 2X2 room >Spend 5 minutes playing Janitor >30 cents and 3 Soul Hearts Worth.
Ryan Foster
>Card Against Humanity >Use in a 2X2 room >run back to get that Hagalaz rune you left on the ground 7 rooms ago
Isaiah Turner
>you will never get Void+Blank Card+Placebo+Deep Pockets+Card Against Humanity+Infested!
Luke Smith
When is someone going to mix Antibirth and Afterbirth+? how hard could it be
Anthony Murphy
+Lil Larva+Mom's Purse+Meconium+Hive Mind
Ian Campbell
It will be a while, but it will obviously happen
It's not a 1 to 1 transfer because Antibirth was coded in a different programming language.
Aiden Perez
Danny B >A_Rival>FamilyJules7X>Virt>Girlfriend Records
Does anyone disagree?
Nathaniel Flores
Not necessarily "this run is gonna be a cakewalk" because desu, when you go on bullet hell runs, there's no such thing as a cake walk without clone but a few guns I'm always glad to see -
Commando - Great boss slayer, deals a fuck load of damage and explosions get rid of bullets to help clutch perfects for master rounds
Eye of the beholster - Great boss slayer, once again. Decent for room clearing as well. Has some fun synergies with element bullet passives (beadies spawned from the gun will get the proc)
Charmed Bow/ Shotgun full of love - Weapons that charm enemies are seriously underrated (or at least they were by me, at first). Charmed bow is incredibly ammo efficient, and charming key enemies is an amazing way to clear a room out and not have to get your hands dirty. Shotgun full of love charms and also hits like a god damn truck.
The Scrambler - This gun. THIS fucking gun. This is THE boss gun, and the fact that this thing comes from fucking blue chests makes NO god damn sense to me. Absolute fucking insane DPS and if you add in something like backup gun, it becomes damn near broken. If there WERE a gun that makes runs a cakewalk, in my eyes it's this one.
The Glacier - Similar to The Scrambler, I have no clue why this is from a C tier chest. Not quite as damaging as the scrambler, but it provides amazing cover as a swap weapon while you fight the a boss. Explosion and Freeze slowing is an excellent combination. It even has some interesting synergies (like with irradiated lead or hot lead, for example).
I honestly love most of the guns in this game, and there are very few truly "bad" guns in my eyes. in general, I don't much care for most of the D tier guns (brown chests) once I'm past like floor 3. Not because they're bad, but because they're outclassed by my other guns by a lot at that point. Least favorite is peashooter without Brocoli, or The Letter R after floor 1.
Justin Allen
There's another way to get to the Corpse?
Cooper Ross
Isn't that the normal selection order?
Josiah Anderson
>dong eden Delirium run >kill hush's first phase >second fight doesn't even spawn it just ends the fight
I know my run is good game but you could at least put up a fight
Adrian Bailey
I never noticed that, I meant in terms of quality.
Though I guess it makes sense to list them by quality in game, too.
Jacob Peterson
Isaac has always been meme central >Shoop da whoop >Lemon party >Balls of Steel It's like Edmund is a Redditor or something.
That being said, Edmund has a nasty habit of not explaining anything, and that leads to frustration of the players, which leads to his frustration when they datamine his precious steak.
Asher Powell
newfag
Daniel Flores
Nothing tilts me more than getting to the womb without any damage items.
Noah Parker
The Antibirth team is working with Edmund because the whole point of Afterbirth+ is that Edmund is out of ideas so he's going to add content from modders every once in a while.
Daniel Nguyen
>Not restarting until you get a damage item
Joshua Lee
>in terms of quality Nothing beats the original. Speaking of which, I wish they would actually make completely new tracks instead recycling.
Hunter Kelly
Was trying to get a regen item for ultra hard challenge. But at this point I'm probably just gonna try to get damage and hope for the best. Because I can't deal with it.
Angel Turner
For whatever reason, Hush 1st phase has been replaced by fucking Blue "???" Baby.
Both my brother and I got a free Void run because Hush just decided to replace itself with ???.
Levi Richardson
>Nothing beats the original. Which is why I have Danny B at the top, where his stuff belongs.
Also I'm the biggest sucker for leitmotifs in the world, I'm glad they all somewhat stick to the originals.
Really looking forward to the 20 new tracks too, even if it's only just like 4 new tracks and then all the variations on them
David Rodriguez
I would defend Steakmund McMuffin if Keeper wasn't unnecessarily broken >Several items don't even work on him >Abaddon will instant-kill him and make him hilariously burst into guppy + soy milk amount of flies >Piggy Bank works differently on him just to make him even harder for no reason >Can't take several devil deals without a strength card because Keeper can't get more than 2 coins
An easy solution? Just let him get 3 coins total, or let him take free devil deals. Jesus, why does Satan want 2 coins that much?
Jaxson Brooks
I have finally beaten the Ultra Hard challenge. No more quad cage rooms sped up by the broken stopwatch ending a perfect run anymore. Now it's time to finally unlock the keeper, only need 90 more coins. I've heard that he is bad, but he can't be that bad, right?
Christian Collins
He's awful. He's not even fun. Just awful.
Nathaniel Foster
See my post above yours.
He's fun, minus having the whole Lost gimmick going on. It just so happens to be that he's also terrible >-2 luck >Maggie speed >Terrible fire rate, meaning if you miss your shotgun, you're dead >2-hit kill iirc, you even have to unlock the Wooden Nickel for him, which is the only thing making him playable.
Christopher Ortiz
1. That's not what broken means 2. He's a challenge character 3. He does have actual advantages and in for example Greed Mode he's a higher tier character than Azazel 4. Greed's Gullet now allows him to get more health
The Piggy Bank thing is bullshit though
Cooper Taylor
>Maggie speed Starting with a speed up gives Maggie average speed, being able to recognize all speed up pills gives her above average speed.
>iirc, you even have to unlock the Wooden Nickel for him, which is the only thing making him playable. Swallowed Penny is what actually makes him playable