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Finally a worse devil deal to take than the floating babies

jesus that's awful

This would be a pretty shitty item even without the requirement.
Shot speed, and tear rate up?
This is The Screw with a stupid fucking prerequisite and a TWO HEART devil cost.

>1 full red heart
>Lost and Blue Baby can't use it
>In the event of 1 red heart, you can't use the Polaroid trigger for free shields and this effect
>Doesn't break tear cap
>Provides a comically low range up and a really small shot speed up

It also costs as many heart containers as fucking brimstone.
I have no idea why some items treat shot speed up as a big deal when so many items give you instantaneous shot speed, like Technology.

I can guarantee that they fucked it up somehow like maybe it was suppose to give damage or something but they forgot.
The best part is probably that they never going to balance it

jesus

I'm almost ALWAYS lurking/chatting about BoI in this thread waiting for somebody to bring up EtG discussion.

I am the gungeon master Until Supply drop is fully released and I get to go baaaaaaack

>going for apollyon unlocks
>last night I manage to get lamb, mega satan, delirium all in one run
>this morning I can't even get through caves

Favorite gungeoneer .

SHAKA SHAKA SHOOK SHAKA SHAKA DING DING
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Convict because she gets just as pissed off when I take damage as I do.

They're all great though.

the pilot is a little lackluster

Some AB+ black market glitches.

everyone knows this

I didn't.

can you tell me the title of this song ?

Pilot is actually my second favorite, sometimes first to be honest. Lockpick is extremely underrated, and his Extra Active Slot + Price Discount is also incredibly good. Extra Active scales incredibly into late game, as most of the time you can ditch your lockpick far into a run and simply use two active items (ever had Potion of Lead skin and Potion of Gun friendship at the same time with a high coolness stat? it's pretty damn strong.) Even if you can't ditch your lockpick, there are a lot of times where You'll want to use your lockpick simply because a key isn't worth the gamble on the tier of chest (browns and blues tend to fall off around floor 3 and 4) or You'll find rooms that you'll be locked out of (some of them have the lost explorer, some of the have extra chests on aside from the two guaranteed ones that spawn on the floor). A lot of times, where other characters simply will NOT have the keys to waste or won't want to waste them if they haven't hit the two chests on the floor, Pilot can just take that 50% gamble and not really care.

Pilot can really snowball runs extremely hard honestly. The trade off of course being that his early game is a lot worse than any other gungeoneer's. The rogue special is pretty much the worst starter pistol, weak as hell and inaccurate which means you have to compensate for it's ridiculous spread with your cursor aiming to do much from more than mid range against standard enemies (bosses are big targets so they don't matter as much).

i play marine mostly and boy i was surprised when i played the pilot, i felt like i was a noob again, the accuracy is the worst

please don't patch this bredmund

I would say Marine is probably the best from an objective standpoint between the four starting gungeoneers.

His passive is just so fucking good in every way. Faster reload speed means you're shooting more often (i.e. more dps) more accuracy means you can turn any shotgun in the game into a lethal force at mid range, and most pistols can be used pretty damn effectively at long range.

Starting with an armor piece is just icing on the cake and that helmet is pretty cool

Is Dungeon of the Endless good?

Yes.

>that pic
i chuckled like a mad man

>antibirth's trinkets are all unique, and all of them are useful (even the mega fart one when combined with spore shot)
>afterbirth+ has 5 trinkets that are exactly the same and clog up the trinket pool, and the rest of them aren't that good either
Really makes you think...

what if instead of starting with holy mantle, the lost could pick up eternal hearts? he can't have HP so he'd always lose them at the start of a new floor, but would alot him a single point of damage as long as he had one or two or 4.

Going to the I am Error room after beating the witness banishes you to the shadow realm.
It did say I unlocked something though

>Stem Cell
>1/2 red heart healed when you move a floor down
I don't get it, you can make shitty Trinkets without making them literally have next to no impact.
Hell, Exploded Firecracker in Antibirth is unusable if you have shit speed and no Mantle/Pyro. And even if you do, you gotta know where to run immediately or you'll take the hit.

Got the dream lost spacebar item but all my devil deals have been garbage ones that I can't get effect from

>Dark Crown
If that was your first one, you REALLY should've skipped the Deal entirely and seen if the Angel blesses you.

Robots face was basically mfw that happened.

I'm still mad that I have to clear dragun with him AGAIN after supply drop.
once was enough pls spare me Dodge Roll

Nothing is worse than "blessed" runs though. Fuck that noise.

Speaking of supply drop, will it have achievements?
Because if so then I might get back into Gungeon again.

not going to skip the devil for angel even if the first one sucks on the lost even if the devil keeps fucking me because free deals are normally way better than a free angel item

I like the idea of being able to kill a boss mid-transformation, while they're at their most vulnerable. That shit is always cool in games.

Well, give us the Seed and we'll tell ya the result.
>Don't personally have AB+, so can't check
Fug.

I think so, at the very least they're adding past kills for the two secret characters, so I would assume so. I know what you mean though, It'd be nice to have some more to go for. Once you hit all the achievements and unlock all the items, the only thing left is to fill out your entire ammonomicon

I STILL haven't found fightsabre in a run yet.

>loss is power
>loss

>that pic
>with that story
You'll break the cycle someday, brother.

>that swimsuit pic
There is porn of her, right?

Sister Vis screwed me. The laser hitbox seems bad

fucking kek

should be;

>gain 0.5 damage for every empty heart container.

Rule 34 is a thing, so probably. I didn't check, convict is for slugs, not for fugs.

>There is porn of her, right?
If you're a normie, then yes.

Am i just bad or are you just not supposed to stand a chance against ultra-greed mkII if you don't have pyromaniac?

How do i git gud at gungeon

dodge roll and practice

roll

Joleri best girl.

That's obviously Ayairi

Learn the difference between attacks you can dodge and attacks you HAVE to roll through.
Always roll through an attack you know you can't dodge as soon as possible so its off cooldown at the next opportunity.

It can't be long until they release it.

How hard do the bullet paterna get compared to furi which is the only bullet hell ive played and beaten

Wouldn't know, haven't played furi yet.
Perfectly beatable though, no bullshit to the best of my knowledge.
If you really want to know how hard it is for you to play the best thing to do is to keep playing.

well let's see
i only saw furi through playthrough and i saw that the hellbullet was kind of weak
in the gungeon it can vary to merciless and unfair to laughable

Furi is really fun but the bullet hell stuff was the hardest part for me. But now that ive beaten it i do wana go back and try gungeon again but i like then try nuclear throne which ive heard is harder

>the hellbullet was kind of weak
Im fucked

So Stem Cell being this shitty is just because we havent found its real use yet, right?

Nope. It has been thoroughly investigated and it doesn't do fucking anything else.

furi's bullet patterns are weak in comparison to gungeons, but furi has awkward controls that make them harder to dodge that needed. even with this furi's are easier.

don't worry after the 20th time you'll fight the King Bullet you won't be feeling the pain anymore

gungeon and furi are more akin to traditional bullet hell games that have well defined patterns. nt is filled with lol randumb situations that can make things less predictable and sometimes impossible to dodge.

>sometimes impossible to dodge
not really
the only bullet hell bosses aren't RNG at all, especially the throne itself

>Antibirth
>Downpour Ghosts will save the Blue rock for last
>And then fly off with it
Fuck you.

youtube.com/watch?v=KilB4hfEzUw

the duality of man

yeah really, I've even seen the world record holder get terrible spawns in the palace, lab, and jungle and die in a fraction of a second. i'd call it poorly designed, but that would imply there was any design at all.

It's a good kek

the palace i'll give you, the big dogs are fucking retarded
but the lab isn't bad at all and the jungle is an optional hell
>world record holder
horheristo is fucking terrible though, not to mention he's so full of himself

mod for gungeon fans steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846411133

>this is supposed to be the devil deal equivalent to Crown of Light

>horheristo is fucking terrible though
k post your videos of beating all his records

>not to mention he's so full of himself
irrelevant to player ability

so what if angel rooms have a better item than devil deals? they are mostly complete underpowered trash for every other situation

>le you need to be a chef to judge a soup
opinion discarded

>h-he sucks even though he has all the world records and consistanty beats anyone that manages to surpass him

>k prove he sucks

>lol no, opinion discarded

autism folks

gimme ur binding of isaac item ideas, i'm gonna try to mod them in. no guarantee i'll ever release it/them, but i need more item ideas for my mod than just a gold heart spawner

One that give you a big ol dick that shoots cum in a monstro's lung style spread shot that slows enemies that get hit or step on the creep

Nuclear Waste - Combines the effects of scorpio and mysterious liquid.

Text - "Tastes like green"

Item Pool - Item Room, Secret Room

I'll come up with a less lazy idea when I have time.

Thank you Brimstone, 20/20, and Satanic Bible

I can see the complaint about furi's controls it took awhile to get used to letting go of a beign when the dash comes out
I can make it to the second floor although inconsistently. It depends on if i get a gun on the first floor and how good it is.

>It depends on if i get a gun on the first floor and how good it is.
you should always fight the first boss with your starter gun

So you have enough ammo for later floors?

angel rooms are supposed to be stronger than devil deal items in general since it's a lot harder to get them.

no. if you don't pick up a gun on a floor, the boss will drop a gun. also, if you don't pick up any keys before you enter a shop the shop will have a key.

sample floor 1 strat:
>first floor
>run around
>key drops
>leave it
>go kill boss with starter weapon, use hunter's bow if you're still learning
>boss drops gun
>get gun
>go get keys
>go buy key from store
>open any chests that look worth it
>check for secret room if you have 2 or less blanks left
>go to next floor

Oh ok thats pretty cool thanks user

Sonic speed - "gotta go fast" - increases movement speed cap to 3.0 and increases your current movement speed by 50%

My other shadow - active - "body flicker technique" - passively grants an immaterial, transparent familiar that mirrors your appearance and movements in the room. can be activated once per 7 seconds to instantly swap places with your shadow familiar.

black shadow - "always with me" - gain a shadow that slowly and constantly grows in size and demonic appearance over time. Once it reaches full size, it damages you for one red heart and all enemies for 10x your attack damage, at which point it disappears for a few seconds before repeating the growth process. taking damage or killing an enemy causes the shadow to pause, and decrease it's growth, for 2 seconds (effectively increasing the time to damage by 4 seconds). Black shadow will only damage red hearts, and can kill you in this manner, regardless of soul/shadow hearts collected. If the character has no red hearts, such as with lost and ???, black shadow cannot hurt you, but will still deal the 10x enemy damage.

Heartless - "" - grants 0.4 increased damage for every empty heart container. grants no bonus to heroes with no hearts like lost or ???.

kerosene - "burns so good" - isaac is healed when touching fire or enemies who are on fire, and enemies who touch him are ignited. touching bonfires puts them out, including blue and purple bonfires.

Shadowdance, from Antibirth.

golden ultra greed can die forever eternally in the pits of hellfire

Death's Door
"Teetering on the brink. Facing the abyss."

Isaac doesn't die at zero health, instead going into a near-death state. Each hit while at zero health has a small chance to kill Isaac that gets more likely the more you get hit.

>Only works when you have one red heart, no more, no less
>Does nothing with the Lost or Blue Baby
>Only increases tears by 0.7 and shot speed by 0.2
>Doesn't break tear rate cap
>Costs 2 hearts
There is literally no reason for it to be that shitty.

Mods.. might fix it?