Gender is a kind of improvised performance, a form of theatricality that constitutes a sense of identity

>We don't want your opinion

/pol/ or not, a more diverse multitude of opinions will only enhance debate and make it easier to get closer to historical fact

If you get triggered that easily I can only suggest you go (back?) to Reddit.

Reddit is to the left my friend

Yeah, like how male gorillas protect the females and children, it's all just theatricality that constitutes a sense of identity, and not biology.

Ahh yes, the "Gender is a Social Construct" argument as pushed by Dr. Money. Look him up and his work, then get back to me.

>nobody wants your opinion

Speak for yourself cuck, I do want his opinion. This board isn't a hugbox, go to your favorite subreddit if you want that.

It's DEFINITELY a mix of not only biochemistry and social expectations, but culture, experience, evolution, history, necessity to both social circles and environment (ex.: Tibetan culture), etc.

Now, HOW MUCH of a mix? Really wish I had an answer for you...

>if a man LARP's as a woman, then it is offensive and problematic to not recognize the LARP'ing pronouns as descriptive of truth

>man LARP's as a woman

Why is it always only MtF trannies that get blasted for this shit while FtM trannies are either ignored or even praised for their idiocy?

Literally female privilige even in gender delusions.

It doesn't fucking matter if someone's opinion is wanted, this is 4chin, we don't have an upboat system so every opinion carries the same weight as every other opinion. For instance, I can point out that everyone ITT is a faggot and whether you "want" that opinion of mine or not hasn't saved you from having to see it. Also, go fuck yourself and the game.

Because femininity is degrading and men who choose to look and act like women are the equivalent to adult baby fetishists. Female to male on the other hand at least doesn't involve stepping down in social status.

Stepping down in social status or not, it's pretty cringeworthy when some fat dyke starts taking testosterone and roleplaying as a neckbeard manlet dudebro with tits.

Fucking French shits destroying philosophy for the latter half of the 20th century.

>but user Judith Butler isn't French

Lmao French is a kind of improvised performance, a form of theatricality that constitutes a sense of identity!

Because they are the minority, since many transsexuals are a product of watching anime and wanting to be an anime girl

this thread is fucking gold

not even the wildest nightmares of fiction writers could have envisaged the horror of the "modern" era

We're (((progressing))).

gender is a spook

low test doesnt make you a girl i dont care what the size of your hypothalamus is

Why do they always pick up these white trash names when they change their sex? Evan, Aiden, Jaiden, Gayden, Brayden, Mason, Peyton, Braelyn etc.

B-But I'm really bad at mathematics, it must be because I have a "female brain!"

People who are good at math tend to be victims of this idiocy more often than others although it's just my anecdotal observation. I noticed plenty of engie or programmer types who become trannies.

no GaYben?

Can confirm. I'm a computer science student and every class I am swimming in a sea of qt traps.

>it's da Joos

Please, """"redpill"""" us on your Jewish conspiracy to oppress white people.

It's always some stupid shit like that. You never see them adopt a name like Mike, Pete, Adam, Tom, just these abominations.

...

Wouldn't this be a better conversation for than here?

What's the point of posting this thread if you're simply gonna banish people to /pol/ for stating their opinion. Maybe you should go to tumblr where your opinion will be more common?

Personally, I believe the concept of multiple genders other than male/female is stupid. Rather than getting angry over whether someone isn't using your preferred pronoun, maybe we should be concerned about issues such as the Syrian civil war, overpopulation, and lack of interest in history/literature?

>I noticed plenty of engie or programmer types who become trannies.

Ironically the over-representation of mtf programmers is specifically because men are much better suited to that sort of abstract discipline i.e. the exact opposite of their "female brain" bullshit is true.

Wait, shouldn't this be absolutely in line with desirable behavior in an ordered, hierarchical society? People willing accepting their natural place in lower parts of the social hierarchy?

Because I know what a constant, all encompassing struggle to the top looks like, and it's typical SJW neoliberalism.

There's basically two types of trannies:

>twink homosexuals, in their case taking it up the bunghole from men combined with effete mannerisms makes them think they really ARE women. Of average or below average intelligence

>straight fetishists, AKA people who are completely heterosexual and fetishize an opposite gender version of themselves. They tend to have extremely high intelligence

I reckon the programmers and the like tend to fall into the second group.

Also for further keks:

healthland.time.com/2011/05/18/study-why-some-transgendered-people-have-higher-levels-of-autistic-traits/

>Wait, shouldn't this be absolutely in line with desirable behavior in an ordered, hierarchical society? People willing accepting their natural place in lower parts of the social hierarchy?

No, that's stupid. In a healthy society men accomplish great works and shoulder some responsibility for supporting families. In a degenerate society men become trannies or adult baby fetishists. This isn't complicated.

>healthland.time.com/2011/05/18/study-why-some-transgendered-people-have-higher-levels-of-autistic-traits/

Don't even have to read that article to know the answer to that question. You basically have to be autistic to be able to let the abstract concept of "gender" override the simple physical reality of your actual sex. Autists are able to let "logical" / abstract concepts win out over the common sense basics normal people don't question.

Yeah, and what about men incapable of of great works, and you know, women, that other half of the human population.

They shouldn't be willing to step down in social status, right?

There was a thread back in like last december which was like "what's your fetishes Veeky Forums?" and it revealed a disproportionate amount of Marxists / Anarchists / Communists were pedophiles, diaperfags, trannies, scat fetishists and other insane shit like that. Not even making this up, it's probably still archived somewhere.

>women

Their job is to support their husbands and raise healthy, strong families to contribute towards the promotion of their race and nation.

>men incapable of of great works

Should either figure out a way to become capable or else kill themselves desu.

>They shouldn't be willing to step down in social status, right?

I don't understand what you're asking.

Gender does not make you interesting. Cut it out.

Not that guy, but 99% of men don't achieve "great things". You basically advocate complete androcide if you say they should kts.

I believe it. Ted Kaczynski explained this all decades ago.

>13. Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of
>groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American
>Indians), repellent (homosexuals), or otherwise inferior. The leftists
>themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit
>it to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely
>because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with
>their problems. (We do not suggest that women, Indians, etc., ARE
>inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology).

>14. Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as
>strong as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women
>may NOT be as strong and as capable as men.

>15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong,
>good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western
>civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The
>reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not
>correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West
>because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so
>forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in
>primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he
>GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points
>out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in
>Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the
>leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates
>America and the West because they are strong and successful.

cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt

>99% of men don't achieve "great things"

You have a shit definition of "great" and/or no self-respect.

Define great then. Raising a family and having a job isn't great, it's just something normal and expected. You're making it sound like every man is either a Napoleon or a loser who should kill himself.

>16. Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative",
>"enterprise," "optimism," etc. play little role in the liberal and
>leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic,
>pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's needs for them,
>take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense
>of confidence in his own ability to solve his own problems and satisfy
>his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of
>competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.

>17. Art forms that appeal to modern leftist intellectuals tend to
>focus on sordidness, defeat and despair, or else they take an
>orgiastic tone, throwing off rational control as if there were no hope
>of accomplishing anything through rational calculation and all that
>was left was to immerse oneself in the sensations of the moment.

>Raising a family and having a job isn't great

Why the fuck not?

>18. Modern leftist philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science,
>objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally
>relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the
>foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the
>concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that
>modern leftist philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians
>systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply
>involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack
>these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one
>thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent
>that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More
>importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they
>classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and
>other beliefs as false (i.e. failed, inferior). The leftist's feelings
>of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification
>of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or
>inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the
>concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are
>antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior
>because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or
>inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or
>blame for an individual's ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is
>"inferior" it is not his fault, but society's, because he has not been
>brought up properly.

>19. The leftist is not typically the kind of person whose feelings of
>inferiority make him a braggart, an egotist, a bully, a self-promoter,
>a ruthless competitor. This kind of person has not wholly lost faith
>in himself. He has a deficit in his sense of power and self-worth, but
>he can still conceive of himself as having the capacity to be strong,
>and his efforts to make himself strong produce his unpleasant
>behavior. [1] But the leftist is too far gone for that. His feelings
>of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as
>individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the
>leftist. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization
>or a mass movement with which he identifies himself.

>20. Notice the masochistic tendency of leftist tactics. Leftists
>protest by lying down in front of vehicles, they intentionally provoke
>police or racists to abuse them, etc. These tactics may often be
>effective, but many leftists use them not as a means to an end but
>because they PREFER masochistic tactics. Self-hatred is a leftist
>trait.

great
/ɡrāt/
adjective
adjective: great; comparative adjective: greater; superlative adjective: greatest

1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average

2. of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above the normal or average.

>(You)

Even if we pretend that's the only acceptable definition there is for that word, that particular definition says nothing about which specific population "normal" or "average" is to apply to. Compared to all the living things that have ever been born and breathed air on this planet for example, extremely few will get to experience the privilege of being competent, sentient apex predator father / providers for a healthy and productive human family.

But raising a family is the NORM. Are you trying to imply that being a diaper wearing furfaggot is somehow the norm and men who raise families are somehow above the norm?

I was literally shocked to find that this thread wasn't started by a tripfag

>21. Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion
>or by moral principle, and moral principle does play a role for the
>leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle
>cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too
>prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power.
>Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of
>benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help.
>For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black
>people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or
>dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a
>diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal
>and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative
>action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take
>such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs.
>Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems
>serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and
>frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black
>people, because the activists' hostile attitude toward the white
>majority tends to intensify race hatred.

>22. If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would
>have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse
>for making a fuss.

>23. We emphasize that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate
>description of everyone who might be considered a leftist. It is only
>a rough indication of a general tendency of leftism.

>is the NORM

Go back and read this post again:

>all leftists think alike

First time on Veeky Forums kid?

>all the living things

I think it's obvious from the context that we're talking about humans, this is some unnecessary backepalling. Just admit you fucked it up and move on.

>calling Ted Kaczynski a "kid"

>all leftists think alike
>literally in that same post you're replying to:
>23. We emphasize that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate
>description of everyone who might be considered a leftist. It is only
>a rough indication of a general tendency of leftism.

...

See

>I think it's obvious from the context that we're talking about humans

Nah, fuck off you cowardly leftist, greatness is all about the big picture. You're afraid to even take the concept of greatness seriously. You'd literally prefer it be some unattainable impossibility you can forget about so you can let yourself slowly die from terminal complacency. Congratulations.

>you cowardly leftist

You possibly can't be more wrong, I'm the furthest thing possible from a leftist. I'm just saying you're misusing words like a complete fucktard.

Nothing about greatness implies a limitation to the human species. Greatness is relative to scope, and there is such a thing as the scope of all living things. You're retarded if you don't think that particular scope matters. The world isn't MTV.

>backpedalling so hard you start posing as a treehugger

I'm done here, this is pointless lmao

>billions of years worth of existence and struggle don't matter, just the last few thousand years count

Disgusting. Go eat some psilocybin you pleb.

Genesis 1:26

>I'm the furthest thing possible from a leftist.
Are you a literally Hitler?

I'm literally de Maistre.

>being a 21st century monarchist

Is there any political affiliation edgier than this?

>Gender is a kind of improvised performance, a form of theatricality that constitutes a sense of identity.

Sounds like any kind of human interaction, desu.

>21st century

Current year =/= current century. There's a difference between saying "it's 2016, come on people!" vs. saying it's the 21st century and you're still trying to be a monarchist.

No, there isn't. It's the exact same whig bullshit.

The former is a transparent agenda to get you to believe one side of an issue that's still totally in the air. The latter is an acknowledgment of the fact monarchism has been dead for a very long time now.

science says no

>Trannies destroy the functionality of their sex organs for the sake of merely looking like the opposite sex. It's such a horrible decision I'm not surprised at all by their increased suicide rate.

The increased suicide rate is a function of merely being a transgender person (that is, the state of being someone whose personal gender identify is not congruent with their physical sex), the suicide rate is simply higher for trans people due to anxiety and depression associated with this, as well as the social problems it causes, and transition helps to alleviate those issues and thus trans people who have transitioned have a lower suicide rate than those who have not. (although still not as low as the general population, as transition isn't perfect as there are some problems it can't solve).

No, they are both notions that history follows a linear curve and that certain ideologies become "obsolete" because muh progress.

>a linear curve

Linear means not curved.

>certain ideologies become "obsolete"

That is trivially true. You're claiming you don't believe anything ever becomes obsolete?

>he doesn't even know what a linear curve is

You're younger than 20 are you not?

I'm 31 and unlike you took courses in mathematics when I was in university.

>Rather than getting angry over whether someone isn't using your preferred pronoun, maybe we should be concerned about issues such as the Syrian civil war, overpopulation, and lack of interest in history/literature?
Marry me, user. You took the words from my mouth

>look mom I'm bullshitting on the internet

extremeoptimization.com/Documentation/Mathematics/Curve-Fitting/Linear-Curve-Fitting.aspx

You don't understand what "linear curve fitting" means. It's using linear functions to approximate nonlinear curves.

>it's societies fault self-castrated men keep necking themselves
Cool story bro

Post op suicide rates are higher, dog