MIT is letting the people decide who dies when self-driving cars face moral dilemmas

MIT is letting the people decide who dies when self-driving cars face moral dilemmas.
Let your voice be heard.

moralmachine.mit.edu/

Oh shit this is actually really interesting

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If the market was free then someone could just ask if the cars ai was driver biased or environmentally biased and then no one would buy the one designed to kill the passengers in this situation.

Obviously the people in the car should die. They were dumb enough to buy a self driving car! :^)

They're gonna happen eventually but right now you've got a chance to raid this survey and click all the "don't kill the passenger" answers.

KILL THE PEDESTRIANS

THEIR BLOOD BRAINS AND BONE WILL BUFF OUT


I DONT WANNA LOSE MY 75K+ SUPERELECTRIC CAR TO A FUCKING HONDA CIVIC

THE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN IN THE FUCKING ROAD TO BEGIN WITH


USE THE CROSSWALK CORRECTLY AND KNOW YOUR LIFE IS SECONDARY

I, as well, came to this conclusion.

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A self driving car should keep it's lane unless it can safely change lanes/swerve to avoid something.
The driver should take control to override this if required.
An empty car should consider itself expendable.
A loaded car should assume that the driver will make the correct decision, and release control with an alarm.

>not creating a wave of murderous robot cars that brake for no fleshy obstacle so that they get a bad rap and get removed from the market entirely

>cat and dog are crossing on a red signal
>pregnant woman is crossing on green
I clicked the one on the right

DO NOT CHANGE LANES

FUCK DOCTORS

AQUIRE DOGE

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save the puppers and cats at any cost skynet

reminder: who to kill list

niggers
woman
children
men

>people actually believe autonomous cars will become mainstream
the only thing you can rely on with software is failure

the final solution to crime and homelessness.

>fear of the unknown
Fuck you.

i also love how people conveniently ignore how many lives would be saved over a non autonomous world

>hoomans

Go away lib cuck, some people would rather not have the government, skynet, or anyone else controlling their every thought and move. Your "utopia" is literally 1984

This. I'd be less concerned if the driver had full control and could override the computer at any point, but even now some shit cars are starting to take control away from the driver. Imagine the argument with the insurance company:
>I tried to avoid the crash, but the car wouldn't let me! The computer kicked in and took control!
>You're the driver, you're at fault
>sent to jail because car killed people and you couldn't override it

Of course, the first time something like this happens, self-driving cars will hopefully have to be recalled to disable the self-driving part.

>Cars are being programmed to kill people.

this is pretty entertaining

well shit

Obviously you kill the pedestrians in the OP pic. Who would buy a car programmed to kill its passengers?

Well, the passengers have safety measures in place in the event of a collision. Seat belts, airbags etc... The people crossing the street do not have those.

How come the first reaction to a brake failure is always death?
Why can't the car find some other way to stop, like engine braking or, most obviously, the emergency brake?

end your life

this is why you dont let your dog drive

nice retort

not an argument

wow, I didn't even notice that I was replying to the biggest faggot on this board, silly me.

ad hominems aren't arguments either

>wanting a car to sacrifice the owner to save others

Why would I buy a car that would let me die?

"end your life" isn't an argument either

>mfw I'm not alphonse

bumpu

Well I'm sorry for wanting a world that is astronomically more safe than a non autonomous world.

Doing God's work

The scenarios where you have to choose between two sets of people don't have right answers. You end up killing people, whether they are old or young, fat or fit, people are people.

The car would just stop.

Do they just overlook this just to make this test?

FAULTY
BRAKES
I always saved the passengers if the two groups were the same size.

People think the car should let me die, ever. That's not how this works guys.

why the fuck did I get 3 cats driving cars with no humans in it?

ya goddamn right I let the car crash pretty much every time

>saving the people over the cats
Whats wrong with you?

always let the animals and old people die if it means the young (or humans in the animals case) can live

You must be new here. Cats > people.

>engine breaking
>In a electric car
Lmao

nah

I like cats and dogs but they arent anything that matters

Oh hahah lel ikr, upvoted my redditor friendo, keep surfing the interwebz safe Xd

well i won't be in a shitty EV so i can come to a stop if need be.

not that hard you paranoid fags

I almost wrote 'kek', but this actually makes sense. If the car decides it is absolutely committed to killing someone, it should commit to killing people that may actually be able to react and save themselves

Cats are total fucking psychopaths let 1000 of them die before any elderly people

I never paid attention to who was driving, who was crossing, etc.
Car/passengers>pedestrians. Every time. Avoid changing lanes if possible. Don't give a shit if they're young/old, fat/thin, hobos/doctors/thieves.

>Also...

All those escenarios are stupid, there is no reason for a selfdrive car to acelerate to an execive speed inside the city, even less when near to a crosswalk. Also the computer should be programed to use the side barreirs, the lampposts, or the trees or bushes as an alternative break (by friction or crash against them) and in case that the acelerator is sticked at full speed, there should be an "emergency disconnector" so even tho the engine is at full speed, tha speed is not transmited to the tires

Oh, and chose under the assumption that the car would make the same decisions regardless of who was in the vehicle.

>so even tho the engine is at full speed, tha speed is not transmited to the tires


...you mean a clutch?

of course, but let's say "muh unlikely scenario", you could add at least three different alternative mechanisms to that; to the engine band, to the rotor and to the injectors

Why the fuck would I sit in a machine that does not try and save the occupant in every and all conditions? No please sacrifice me for someone else? What the actual fuck? Are MIT researchers so stupid to realize that self preservation and the protection of ones own loved ones is a fundamental driving force of all human nature and history. I would run over millions people old or young, rich or poor, fat or thin, gay or straight, of it was determined to a mathematical certainty it was them or me and my wife and child has to die. I would mow down everyone and everything to save my son. That is the driving force of all human evolution and procreation. You think I'm just gonna say, "No you guys at MIT get to decide if my son dies or some other assholes die?" Fucking smart people really are the dumbest.

>rotor
ups, sorry I meant to say the differential

how is the car going to know how well is someone doing in life?
did they just unravel their own masterplan?

>You think I'm just gonna say, "No you guys at MIT get to decide if my son dies or some other assholes die?"
no that's what the whole survey is about you dumbfuck

Slam on the brakes, honk the horn. People shouldn't have crossed when they're not supposed to and their stupidity shouldn't endanger the people in the car.

I dont think having mechanical methods are a good idea...
Kill throttle. Kill fuel pump (would take a few seconds). Kill injectors. Kill ignition.
Clutch, gearbox.

This isnt a diesel engine. It is usually very easy to stop a gas engine.

you realize that the lack of safety is because of braindead liberals like you that refuse to acknowledge personal responsibility or practice effort

Right, so if their survey says society has determined that my son can die to save two other people because that's what most people selected, will I have an opt out switch to say "No thank you?" The whole point of a survey is that individuals opinions dont matter its a collective opinion. I just don't happen to love or care for anyone else. I want my son to live and everyone in the crosswalk to die.

I'm not saying all at the same time, but one as an alternative to the others. Also I'm just telling some examples to say, this scenarios are not that hard to solve without anyone getting hurt

Most of the "runaway car" things have been either electronics glitches or people being idiots and reacting poorly under pressure.

Yeah, but those people are crossing on a red light!
They should know better.
Even if the car was good and it was the dog decision to run over the people the dog would be righteous.

>filename
top lel

>It is usually very easy to stop a gas engine.

but self driving cars will be almost all electric...

Very easy to stop a brushless electric motor too.

I'm no physicist nor a mechanic but cutting the power from the motor completely won't stop the tires from spinning is it?
won't it be like pulling a handbrake in a car with an actual gearbox?

>"end your life" isn't an argument either
Neither is lib cuck.

weird that it says I have maxed preference towards sex(male), species(human) and age(young) however i only took into consideration species during my selections.

only two that matter tebehe

>most killed character: female jogger
okay who posted this on tumblr

it should if u didnt give it proper mantenance
why should other people pay because half the population never do general inspection on their vehicles?

At that point its not a "runaway car".

they're linked to Facebook and your identity chip implanted behind your scrotum.

even under the worst possible scenarios, self driving cars will still save way more lives than letting maniacs and cellphone addicts behind the wheel.

I like driving as much as the next guy but you guys gotta admit, at least 30% of the population should NOT be allowed near a steering wheel.

fuck off alphonse

>empty car should kill the people instead of crashing
the religion of peace will love it

>or people being idiots

I think I should had to clear out before that I'm arguing in favor of selfdrived cars

airbags inflate before crash..

people might actually live.

although only if the system can decide where the safest place to crash is.

maybe it will revolutionise crumple zones?

or introduce new ways of braking.

if it can spot pedestrians maybe the car can have pedestrian airbags.

all very exciting stuff..

maybe the radiator can jettison water into the crumple zones..

ok maybe not the radiator

me reddit army is here xdxdxdxd

le*****
oopsies xdd

90% of these deaths could have been prevented if THEY WERE FOLLOWING THE LAW

Alright lads, let's sabotage self-driving cars.

Preservation of passengers' lives over all else. If it'll plow through one crowd or the other, straight ahead.

We save too many lives already.

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run over the kittens and then do a 360 and crash on the barrier

unsupervised pets are basically pests

The only thing you can rely on with humans is failure.

Im a hobbo killer.

The dogs are being supervised by the car.

No, it's because of human error and stupidity. Dumbfuck. Consider suicide.

Mine had me preferring fat people and criminals even though I didn't consider those factors at all in my decisions.

it's even easier with electric cars