Why is owning a car so expensive in burgerstan? Especially in NE cities like New york I'm gonna be going to grad school next fall and I was thinking that I can finally get a car and start driving (undergrad was in the city) but it's so fucking expensive. Excluding the cost of the car you have to deal with inflated insurance, every mechanic is a scam, yearly inspections, tolls out the ass on bridges (15 bucks a pass? Really?) tickets here are expensive as fuck for the most stupid shit, parking is getting fucked because more and more streets are getting meters, making it impossible to find a spot sometimes, alternate side parking and the list just goes on.
Why do they do this? I just want a cute little miata to drive upstate with instead of taking the fucking Amtrak.
Talk to me when you're paying € 50 in road taxes, €50 for insurance and €1,50 per liter petrol (€ 5,6 $/gallon)
Tyler Reyes
>Why is owning a car so expensive in burgerstan? Aaaand cue the yuros bitching about how much worse they have it. News flash, you voted for the people that made those laws, you did this to yourself. Take action if you don't like it, or is that also not allowed?
Colton Russell
I didn't really I could vote republican every election but it's always gonna be dems running NY with very few exceptions
Levi Morgan
>every mechanic is a scam Why do you need a car? Just get your boyfriend to drive you around.
Caleb Lee
Liberals.
Move to the mid west of you want everything cheap.
Nathan Green
BECAUSE ITS THE FUCKING RUST BELT AND IF SOMEONE CANT BE ASSED TO FILL THEIR TIRES WITH AIR HOW DO YOU THINK THEY DO ON OTHER MAINTENANCE? Anyway OP. The reason why it costs so much to own cars is most people north, south, east, and west of Texas are fucking incompetent (and half of us are no better) And no, we don't want you.
Chase Green
50 per month or 3 months? Because 50 insurance is cheap except maybe if you're old as fuck.
Ethan Johnson
So fucking deal with it or figure out a way to register your car in another place or whatever. Absolutely nobody likes getting raped by the government but most of us enjoy cars and driving more
Lincoln Mitchell
If you wanted an automotive society it's mostly out west where everything post WW2 was made for cars. But in return you get a clusterfuck of a city known as LA where most highways become parking lots.
Jose Mitchell
Why would you ever live in commiefornia for any reason?
Henry Allen
Really? Fuck off!
In portugal I'm paying 200€ insurance for a 2010 shitbox, and cars like a 2007 Astra are costing almost 10k ! in murica you guys can get Miatas for almost nothing. Here if we want a simple Mk1 we need to pay up 4 to 6k ! America is the best country to own a car
Daniel Bennett
>in murica you guys can get Miatas for almost nothing For an NA you're looking at 3-7k for a good one, coupled with registration fees, title shit, inspection and finally about a grand a year in insurance if you're a younger driver. No, America is not the best country to own a car you Portuguese piece of shit.
Thomas Reed
yeah bud, gas is much cheaper but road tolls are high in the northeastern united states and I pay $100/mo for insurance with a clean record in new york.
Hunter Evans
>why is it so expensive in America? >lives in NY There you go
Noah Edwards
>3-7k for a "good one LMAOOOO. why the 7k ? if your going to add big numbers just say 3-70k.
You can get miatas starting at 1k from what I see, and some dont look bad at all. We can only get for 5k, and thats the minimum because here we dont even have a wide variety of miatas or even cool cars. no shit that it's about a grand a year with all that shit you said. I'm paying 200€ and I'm not a young driver. Just search our shit cars for high prices
>You can get miatas starting at 1k from what I see What in the fuck are you talking about? Show me a decently maintained NA miata for 1k that doesn't need every fucking part replaced.
Hudson Hughes
They don't call it Jew York for nothing. And stay as far away from Long island as you can, everyone is a jersey-tier driver but more of a cunt
David Edwards
They actually can't do that either iirc, there's a big VW/stance meet in New Jersey every year that always ends up with a lot of out of state showcars getting impounded because the owners try to drive them up
John Hall
> live in michigan > get 2016 fiesta 1.6na > 1minor accident on record > 0 duis > quoted $630 a month for insurance > go straight back to driving my old econobox > still $130 a month plpd
John Cooper
move.
I live in las vegas. I pay 100/mo to insure 2 cars. registration for both is about $50/yr. no inspections or tolls. I spend maybe a couple hundred bucks a year in maintenance for the 2 cars. you can also get decent NA miatas here for under $3k, or a beater DD for like 1500bux. all 100% rust free of course.
Anthony Gomez
>$630 a month for insurance
Holy fuck
I pay $100/mo for my 2015 FiST
Jordan Gomez
yeah but you live in Las Vegas.
Jackson Perez
i bought a miata in a really good condition for around ~$2800 and the insurance costs me $70 a year there are yearly inspections that costs $25, but other than that, nothing as for the drawbacks the gas certainly ain't cheap and the roads are in meh condition, but it's not that bad
guess my country
Austin Green
MI is a no-fault state IIRC because dindus so that's why everyone gets raped on insurance.
James Brooks
It's not. Literal poorfag here (last year's taxes were
Samuel Green
Explain this one to me because I'm trying to figure out how going to a car meet gets your shit impounded.
Thomas Ortiz
roads seem to oxidize faster more pot holes. bad weather, rust. salt on roads etc. other poor driving conditions with weather. Meters themselves are just complicated and annoying for parking.
David Roberts
Buy shitbox for cheap
Do your own service and repairs
It's not difficult. You're a grad student for Christ sake. HS dropouts do this shit for a living.
Easton Bailey
>NE cities >New York No
Blake Murphy
>News flash, you voted for the people that made those laws News flash: No we didn't you stupid fuck, those laws were in place before most of our parents even had a car.
And nobody is talking about lowering any, just making shit more expensive.
Michael Collins
Don't live in fucking new york.
It's quite literally "New England".
Charles Bennett
>move. >I live in las vegas No.
Aiden Martinez
I'm a full time student living at home Sure I have ~2k saved up, but it's no where near enough for a cheap car like an NA miata and all the bullshit accompanying expenses. In NY I'm positive they have all this bullshit in place so people use the MTA more. Which would be cool and all, but I have a 4 hour trip from brooklyn to Albany to make like twice a month and fuck having to deal with the Amtrak, especially in the winter.
Jacob Brown
I think it'd have to be people racing or being a noise disturbance. Jersey probably has some gay ass proximity laws
Jaxson Cox
t. flyover state
Wyatt Evans
I pay $110 a month for $1 million/$1 million liability and $1,000 deductibles on my 2015 Ford Fusion Titanium in New York. When I started insurance, it was $200/mo for much less coverage and no comprehensive/collision coverage in Pennsylvania at age 22 (licensed since age 20).
New York is a no fault state which means when drivers cause accidents, other than by premium increases, they don't pay for any of the damage. Example: Bob is considered "at fault" in an accident with Joe. Joe claims to have whiplash (hard to disprove, a lot of people lie). Joe sues Bob's iinsurer who now has to pay up to the policy limits. It's not uncommon for simple whiplash claims to recover $100,000+ from the insurer.
There's a lot of debate on whether no fault actually saves any money. I'm in the camp that thinks it actually contributes to higher premiums.
Chase Flores
I drive around brooklyn occasionally, and the way people drive is fucking insane Going 40+ local, breaking lights, skipping stop signs, double and triple parking etc Fucking insane
Luke Nelson
It's funny the amount of shenanigans you see in NYC considering what tickets cost in New York. In westchester a stop sign ticket in my town is $117 + $93 in court fees = $200 in total. Speeding tickets are even worse. (Doesn't include premium impact or cost to hire a lawyer/take time off work).
Aiden Watson
>New York is a no fault state >Joe sues Bob's insurer
I don't think that's how no-fault works. You (and your occupants) are covered by your insurance company. The other person's damages/injuries are covered by theirs. Regardless of who was at fault (hence 'no fault'). One company suing another is restricted and rare.
Needless to say, (((lawyers))) don't like this system.