Is SEO worth learning?

I hear the age of SEO is dead cause over saturated market, is this true? Anyone making money off of it?

Gonna have to be more specific, friendo.

Do you mean affiliate marketing? Or doing SEO for companies?

SEO is far from dead. The age of shitty 500 word keyword-stuffed articles is dead, but then again not entirely because small businesses are still paying content writers and link-builders for them.

Affiliate marketing, i want to run some internet business off of that or just any good internet business.

There is no such thing as an over saturated market with SEO. There's literally an endless amount of possibilities. If you are trying to get on the first page of google for the search phrase "make money fast," obviously that will be highly competitive and over saturated. The trick is to just find low competition, high volume niches, and new ones appear all the time. Say for example, a new watch comes out called the Timemaster 5000. You could make an affiliate site with SEO optimized for these search phrases:
>Timemaster 5000 coupon
>Timemaster 5000 review
>should I get the new Timemaster
etc. That's three search terms you could rank for all coming from one product, which is within the watch niche. So in the watch niche alone, there are thousands of affiliate sites that optimize SEO for different keywords. Now imagine fitness. You could do diets, exercise equipment, meal plans, fitness gear, etc. Say you choose diet. You can go deeper. Focus on one specific diet, like the Paleo diet. That's a niche within a niche within a niche. And even narrowed down that much, there are a ton of different search terms you can rank for just within the Paleo diet niche.

That's the cool thing about it. There's an endless amount of topics to make websites about. Beyond that, there's also the whole world that you have access to via the internet. If a topic that you really want to do is over saturated in the US, you can often just copy what the most successful people are doing and translate it to a different language and market it to a different country.

To sum it up, you have an endless list of niches, products, interests. And then tons of ways you can put a unique angle on them. That leads to literally millions of possibilities. On top of that, you have foreign markets that are largely untapped. Finding a niche isn't too hard. Getting your site to page one on Google is where it gets more time consuming and difficult.

SEO is a meme made up by web devs to charge extra to customers.

Thanks for the insight user ill look into it now

>I hear the age of SEO is dead cause over saturated market, is this true?
The only people saying that are the ones that suck at it and the pajeets that don't want competition since their shitty web 2.0s can barely pass as a aff site.

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You can rank top of google for the most competitive fat head keywords. with just a few pictures and 1 sentence.
you dont even NEED the keyword in title or tags.
You need high DA and shit loads of back links.
Thats SEO.

Shows how dumb this board is from these responses alone.

Only one user said the right words .. "SEO is endless"

I've been doing it for a business that hired me as a programmer and over the past month we went from 50 views per day average to 75. I see it as a percentage increase so you can't just make a new site and do it and expect it to work. Also this was nothing on their site yet and only things on other sites like buying relevant expired domains and making 10 articles with backlinks. So I haven't even done the normal part of the on-site seo and it is seeing an improvement.

Also if you were a huge business and had money to throw at it, it would be more effective since you'd buy 100 sites and make 1000 articles.

How is it endless you Fukin retard google has algorithms in place that rank webpages according to the algorithms. You clearly haven't a fking clue.

Tons of retards still pay for SEO specialists not realizing that SEO is fucking useless (you are NOT going to get into the first page of google results, dude, it's just not going to happen, you are being way too optimistic, and that's not how people search for content online anyway)

>that's not how people search for content online anyway
yes it is, people still use google all the time to search for content you moron

You'll never get in the first page for generic one word keywords. You can easily get there for 3-4 word keywords which are arguably better because people typing that in know some idea about what they want so they won't call up clueless and waste time.

best wireless earphones
wireless earbuds
best bluetooth earbuds

there are all different long tail and keywords yet yield the same results in google.

Some of the biggest "gurus" in content marketing who go on and on about organic traffic pay link builders to boost their shit.

So take that for what it's worth.

>You need high DA and shit loads of back links.

explain to a noob?

Google "Moz Domain Authority," my dude.

Let Rand Fishkin and his ridiculous mustache take you on a wild ride.

bamp

I'm #1 in Google for a certain search term. All ads on said site are Google Adsense, because everything else pays shit.

Google has a monopoly and there's nothing I can do about it.

>you are NOT going to get into the first page of google results
Are you retarded? So do you think the first page of Google is just blank? I know plenty of people who have websites on the first page.

>yes it is, people still use google all the time to search for content you moron
They're not going to go past the first page, and the first page will be pages from the big names in that industry that you're simply not going to be able to compete with. Wikipedia, amazon, etc.

It's more effective to generate links from other places and "force" word-of-mouth through aggressive shilling so your shit shows up in places like facebook "suggested" feeds and shit.

paying link boosters and jamming invisible text all over your page won't make your dragon dildo company suddenly more popular than Bad Dragon, and simply renewing and rotating ads keeps them up higher for longer than jamming them with fluff text.

SEO is a supplement and even large companies like Uber use it.

SEO is dead in the sense that your average mom and pop shop now have 0 chance of ranking well for anything lucrative. Each algorithm update caters more towards big brands.

At this point in the game, only a fool would build a business on the back of SEO. You could wake up tomorrow to find Google skull fucking your entire livlihood with their latest giant panda cock.

As someone whose worked as a marketing consultant for the past 7 years, I'd recommend learning online PR, as eventually that is what SEO will morph into (outside of web dev tasks).

I have a blog that ranks in the top three spots for two-word keyword that has absolutely no monetary power. Get about 500 visits a month for a shitty blogspot site with about 1,000 words of content. It's made like $9 in AdSense over the course of like, six years.

It is possible to get on the first page, you just have to go after long-tail keywords OR terms that aren't so competitive with little to no competition in terms of ads.

Long tail rules though because the traffic is so highly targeted. My blog for my business drives very little traffic; however, almost every visitor that I get contacts me because the search terms that get them there are so specific.

I do Client SEO and web design, moving into aff marketing because that is where the real money is if you aren't a salesman like me.

You CAN make BIG money with client seo if you can convince your clients that it is worth it, which it is, but it is hard for Johnny Plumber to see that if he is ranked 1st in google that his profits are gonna go up 10x because "its just thuh innanet" also it does cost for PBNs and other link building that most small businesses cant afford.

Big businesses already pump enough money into other marketing that they dont care much about digital marketing, so wrestling a budget away from their print and tv ads is hard too.

With aff marketing I can just get an offer, work out the best keywords, create a site to review and shill it, and make money. OR i can write good ad copy, pay for traffic and make money.

Easier for me, as I hate dealing with clients.

But no, SEO is not dead, it will always be relevant. Especially in overseas markets because hardly anyone is targeting them.