/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

mamamia gabbagool
*slurps pasta*
do thisa idiota bea sayina
we werenta roma?

someone was posting it a few days ago and there was no shitstorm so you should be safe posting it

Vatican city is the legitimate successor state to Rome.
>hehe dis kids just meming he dusnt really tink dat
Prove me wrong.
>Latin
>In Rome
>only authority under rome still around (Bishops of Rome were legitimised upon the Roman Empire's conversion to Christianity, by right of line of succession the Pope is the Roman emperor.)

What's AFPG like IRL? Does he know his username is an anagram of fag pro?

That really made me think

Its Finland

>all those jumps
"No" also, how does a republic be an empire?

>West Africa

It was to be a kingdom. IIRC

Alright, thanks AFPG, the icon looks really good, I had to make it a little smaller though.

Eventually the death cultists will spread to other nations, even if there isn't a zombie country, and rebels will pop up to try to change your country religion to their cult. The cult religion will probably open up some options, no idea what though, I was thinking maybe having the ability to start zombie infections in enemy countries during great wars or something.

>Going for Burgundian Conquest cheevo
>This happens

ITS FATE

>Constantine the Great relocates the capital to Constantinople.
Anyone else think Constantine was an idiot for this one?

>moving the capital to a much wealthier city straddling two continents was a mistake
Nah, should have renamed the empire though.

Make an "undead" culture and have all the pops switch to it once it completely falls (not just occupied).
At what age could humanity reasonably fend off a zombie horde? I think the advent of the machine gun would have been it.

>I had to make it a little smaller though
Damn, looking good though.

If you want my opinion, remembering a very old post apocalyptic Civ4 mod I used to play back in the day, I remember there was a death cult as well, and you really wanted to avoid your cities converting to it because it gave you a population malus and some other stuff.

I think it's an interesting idea if you can implement the religion to give you nation maluses, so that you'd actually want to _prevent_ the religion from spreading to your land and such.

I assume death cultists would seek to bring about the zombie plague, but perhaps also otherwise poison or fuck up your population giving a malus to population growth and such things.

>EU3, just do Norse Britian
What size are EU3 flags even?

Why the fuck is MEIOU so slow

64x64

128 by 128, don't forget Muslim Byzz as well

I actually remember because I did a flag from EU3 a long time ago and they are 64x64. So which one it is? EU3 or EU4?

>At what age could humanity reasonably fend off a zombie horde? I think the advent of the machine gun would have been it.
Depends what rules the zombie operate under. If they starve, then whenever. If organized properly, then probably medieval or even classical. A castle or walled cities would be pretty unbreachable and despite lacking gunpowder weapons you'd still be able to fuck up a zombie horde with firebombs.

>I assume death cultists would seek to bring about the zombie plague, but perhaps also otherwise poison or fuck up your population giving a malus to population growth and such things.
Why would anyone want to overthrow civilisation by promoting an influx of barbaric uncivilised subhumans?

No starvation, headshots only.
>you will never be walled in a comfy english castle, longbowing zombies all day

EU3, It is 64x64, checked

I see what you did there and I love you for it, user.

>headshots only
Then you'd be fucked up until the early modern era. I think you underestimate the marksman to zombie ratio, not to mention the insane amounts of ammunition that would be required.

Nah, I originally said the machine guns. I don't think that's be possible with muskets, considering it takes half a minute for the average person to reload.

Well, when dealing with flags so god damn small, the key is to keep things as simple as possible.

For instance, here you have your Byzantine Caliphate, so to speak. Since I assume the capital is in Constantinople, I just did the same thing the Ottomans did when THEY became a "Byzantine Caliphate", so to speak, and took Constantinople's Star and Crescent and turned it into their own symbol.

I chose this design since it comes directly from old Constantinople banners, and I chose green since in Shia Islam (and Islam in general I believe) it's a sacred colour, symbol of purity and piety.

What do you think?

k lads i

From last March

Stupid question, why did real-life nations blob so hard?

What was their end goal?

And why is taking over the world such a reoccurring theme for the villain in fiction? What do they plan on doing once they've accomplished this?

That is a stupid question.

Preddy good, It fits quite well.

I already have a zombie culture for the horde, I plan on making provinces assimilate to it and lose a good number of pops once the majority are zombie cultists, representing them sacrificing themselves or some other edgy thing. I'll make it possible to get zombie primary culture as any nation if their capital becomes majority cultist.

I'm going to make every religion able to be converted even if there are no pops of the religion you want to convert them to, similar to African pagans, just so this become possible.

Good idea, I'll have having the cultists in power give bonuses to military and reduced militancy/consciousness, at the cost of a decent hit to pop growth, period losses of pops in provinces whenever they flip to zombie culture, and other small annoyance events.

I want there to be stages of the apocalypse in the mod, like stage one (1836-1852) being the actual zombies, 1852-1890ish being cultists and 1890-1900 being the african outbreak, past that just using zombism in warfare. I also want to have local events too, like movements to give proper burials to the fallen, eliminating small scale, 1-3 man outbreaks, and families keeping a zombified family member around if they can't get over the loss.

Inventing machine guns basically stops the zombies from ever being a threat again, before then it's just about strategy. I'm not going to go by the "headshot" rule, but I won't have the environment kill too many of them otherwise the apocalypse would only last a week tops.

>the wedding dress
I'm angry now. Fuck that show

They adopt a materialist mindset where more equals better, so they conquer to take control of trade and wealth to expand their power.

>Getting triggered by an article of clothing

What is this even about?

you are LITERALLY the guy that gomic is parodying

Last march as in 2016 or 2015?

For what purpose though? What are the real life benefits of playing wide vs playing tall? Wouldn't the former make efficient administration of the realm borderline impossible unless outer territories have significant enough autonomy to basically count as semi-independent from the central government? That doesn't sound sustainable.

Using to get you attention

This flag isn't to bad either

Not the dress specifically, just the ending of she show, when she wears the dress, is hot garbage

Why would it be 2015?

Best girl won, bitches. Get over it.

I think humanity would have survived at any stage, mostly because of islands, such as isle of man. Every now and then when the population of the island rises groups would probably leave to try and make their way to the dangerous yet completely unclaimed land that would be abundant in resources compared to the island, especially since no one has been there to harvest it for years.
The chance of zombies getting on the islands are tiny, and can only happen if they come on a boat, back then boats took a while to travel so the other passengers would either die or kill the infected before they land. Any that do get to shore would be of little threat because of low population + Density meaning its pretty much impossible for them to overwhelm people.

>I'm not going to go by the "headshot" rule, but I won't have the environment kill too many of them otherwise the apocalypse would only last a week tops.
The headshot rule is only one that makes sense. Chop of a zombie's arm, what happens? Nothing. The brain is the only part that causes this, they were able to make Zombie mice in real life and it's basically just a neurological disorder.

Also, you should have it start by Communist Anarchist jews declaring it the only way to truly "liberate the proletariat".

CK2 cuck here trying to figure out EU4. I figured I'd start with the modern casualized games before I get into the more complex and retro ones.

Other than centers of trade and other provincial bonuses, and other than Missions, how do I decide what land to grab in a peace deal? In CK2 you just go for de jure duchies, but that doesn't seem to be much of a thing in EU4.
Or should I try to grab land that falls within the same State, to minimize the amount of States I have to create?

But no girl won. The ending is cop-out shit

The different shades of blue are barely a thing, I don't think it's a good idea to depend on that for symbolism.

I know you said you wanted Norse symbolism but what about this? I took the lion from the medieval Earldom of Iceland and gave it the colours of the lion of England. I can try something else, more pagan norse if you want though.

>stuarts

nice. instant votes by giving him a barony. good to know!

And now that he's landed he's going to start plotting against you and banging diseased wenches.

I don't know, I always got confused about that shit in school. They'd say "next friday" and mean the friday after next, rather than the friday of that week, which would be the "next" friday.

Just autism, lad.

It really really depends. Start with cores and claims first as you lose less paper and bird mana. Then culture if its your culture or culture group its worth more. Then in states you already own. Some provinces may be special and transcend those rules like you always want centers of trade and gold mines. Above all good borders are king.

>mix of different blues
I have never seen anything worse in my whole entire life.

Yeah, I'd love to see different norse symbolism more prominent, also you are doing great work for the limitations you are working with

>The headshot rule is only one that makes sense. Chop of a zombie's arm, what happens? Nothing. The brain is the only part that causes this
Yeah, you're right, I'll go off of that rule, my only gripe with it is that it would be near impossible for any non island nation to survive, but I dunno.

heh epic

Compare the influence and power of the British Empire to Switzerland and you'll see the difference between playing 'wide' vs 'tall'.

Pretty simple with machine guns. They'd basically be slower, unarmed zulus.

You could have two distinct sections of the mod, "the plague" and then the rebuilding, post invention of the machine gun, so that the last 40 years of the game are spent trying to get back from the catastrophe.

You could even have a sort of world conference, where the player can becoms the sole world government and try to make humanity prosper again, complete with events for nstionalist strife in said world government. Or you could have it go the other way and have people rapidly lose literacy (from no schools) and descend back into feudalist nation states.

Honest question why is there no bin next to deleted posts anymore? Now I can't tell what autism the janny is up to unless I f5 or someone quotes a deleted post. pls no ban for off topic t.

Well, another possibility is using this symbol (triple knot or something is called, I forgot) which is a Norse symbol for Odin, but apparently was used around the British Islands as well by Germanic pagans.

You should install a plugin that saves deleted posts, /gsg/ routinely has 1000+ posts each thread when you accoutn for the deleted ones.

Well, my ruler was the holy head of Norse Paganism in CK2 before I converted, so it'd work since I have to represent Norse pagans as a whole

That whole last paragraph seems to go a bit off the rails desu.

yeehaw

How so? Zombie uprising is right ul there with alien invasion on the "what would form a single world government" scale. People would soon realise that the only way humanity could hope to recuperate is by going full UN.

I just don't see global scale governments happening in the 100 years the game takes place in, nor within the mechanics of the game for that matter. That's for the modder to consider, but I think it'd be losing focus of the mod and there's still a lot of interesting things to do with a post-zombie scenario that don't involve a huge global blob.

Neither are zombie invasions credible. Honestly, I don't think a live Frenchmen asking to unify with a live Spaniard to fight a horde of undead motherfuckers is too far fetched.

>one world government
>in the age of nationalism
If the hordes of jacobins and communists didn't make the West unite in a single government, neither will the hordes of comparatively less dangerous zombies.

>no event for germany to get the togoland
>can't get my historical colonies because no naval range from bases to colonize before anglo fucks get my clay

ree.

I honestly don't think this would be considered "the age of nationalism" in the event of a zombie apocalypse. Something tells me all bets are off when the coffins start bursting open. This isn't an ideological struggle, this is live humans vs dead humans, not [nation] vs dead humans.

tbqh, while I appreciate you making the flag for me, it just seemd too British, maybe it was the Irish cross that got thrown in there, as well as the flour-de-lis right smack dab on the flag.

I think I can take care of the Kildare cross (?), but if you could get either of the flags mentioned in I couldn't be happier

Also, what's your reasoning about not getting a pass? You could just keep it restricted to your devices and not give out the token and pin

>this is live humans vs dead humans, not [nation] vs dead humans.
I think you are seeing this from a very modern point of view. Back in those times chances are the struggle would have indeed be seen as a national struggle against a foreign agent, even if said foreign agent isn't a nation itself.
I agree that alliances and powerblocks may have been formed to stop the hordes, but extrapolating that to the formation of one world government is just lightyears away from willing suspension of disbelief.
Like, imagine, you couldn't go one day in there without civil wars starting over who gets to rule or where the capital would be and such, just to mention most immediate matters.

Alright, fair enough, but there atleast needs to be events for the German Confederation to seize executive power in the crisis.

Gotta go with on this one, you had me until the last paragraph. I do like the idea of societies reverting into feudal kingdoms, but I only see it happening in serf filled Eastern European areas like Russia, Hungary, and Poland. A X-Com unified world state in the 1800s sounds really silly though

If I got rid of St Patrick's cross thusly would it be ok? The problem with the fifth one you linked to is that it doesn't really have Scotland's saltire there, and the other one you linked has only one fleur de lis, not three, and that's an important distinction for France.
Also having the fleur de lis defacing the rest of the flag is a proper heraldic way of doing it, see the CoA of Spain, which is what inspired me actually.

As for the pass, I'll consider it once I'm there, but since I don't know how busy I'll even be I don't want to promise things I won't be able to do. Not to mention I'd be forced to do flags on the m*cbook laptop I'll be forced to take.

>thusly

This is perfect, thanks

ahhhhhhh relief

What portrait mod is this?

Literally no one said anything about it being Communist, you lads have read that all by yourselves.

Noone said anything about it being Communist either.

CPR+

My little HRE can't be this heretic. I want to convert those guys but I also want to keep my long time alliance with the emperor Austria.

I don't know what x com is, I assumed x stood for Christ and it was some sort of Christian communist world government.

>I don't know what x com is
>I assumed x stood for Christ and it was some sort of Christian communist world government
I don't know which of these two statements I find the most bizarre.

>x.com
I'm sort of afraid to go there
Must be a crazy valuable domain

I think I've gone too deep in my trip through Deviantart lads I would def play this gsg though

Have you literally never heard of xmas?

>deviantart geopolitical autism
ah yes it puts this place to shame