But what if the beginner wants something reliable user?
Kayden Thomas
Feels good man.
David Rogers
The GS500 is objectively the best beginner bike. > mileage It's a mid-sized 4stroke twin cylinder bike, so it drinks less than 6 liters per 100 km. > handling It handles nothing like a supersport, spoiling you for when you get something else. But it can also corner much better than something like a cruiser, and actually uses its entire rear tire unlike a Ninja 250. > brakes They are complete shit and their only redeeming feature is that they're disc brakes. This is good because the longer braking distance forces new riders to plan ahead and start braking early. No ABS means they learn to brake properly I'd they don't want to get shrekt. > power It sits right at the power limit for A2 bikes which is great for euros. It's torquey enough to be faster off the line than most cars you'll encounter in the city. But it also feels relatively gutless so a) it's forgiving of mistakes and b) you can ride it at the limit without putting yourself into too much danger. It reaches up to 180 km/h which is fast enough for highway riding. > carbs It being carbed means that if you run into problems, you can learn to fix them yourself instead of heading to the mechanic every time. > seating position Upright, slightly forward means it's a neutral riding position so you can figure out what you want afterwards. The seat is relatively uncomfortable making literally every other bike after it will feel like heaven on your ass. > price and availability Parts and the bikes themselves are cheap and plentiful. If you crash and fuck up one of your fairings it's 40 euros to replace it with original parts. Engine needs little maintenance. Beginner riders are typically not financially independent, so this is a big plus for them. > suspension It's a budget suspension factoring into the overall low cost of getting a GS 500. If you want better suspension it's easy to swap. Therefore it gives beginners an opportunity to learn working on suspension while keeping the cost manageable.
Brody Watson
>tfw no SV1000 on market I might have to settle for an FZ1
Gabriel Rogers
Mine got ran over by a truck and all that happened was some bent levers, a missing turn signal and one of the rims broke. Plenty reliable.
Just get 2 GS500s
Liam Brown
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Ian Cox
>Not getting a Honda super hawk
Jack Evans
Oh look KKK's here.
Christian Cox
>realtree >army
Luke Peterson
Fuck off with your GS500 spam, Jesus.
Anthony Nelson
Drop user you seem very bored
Levi Brooks
That's Jesus SIR for you, maggot. Fucking make me.
Hudson Ross
lewd as fuck
Henry Stewart
I am. Ah fuck it, I'll stop now. You gonna make a SEM hype poster again? Or maybe a flag design that I can get made and bring to the meet?
I mean, it has an R6 engine in it but it's fine as long as you don't get retarded with the throttle.
Samuel Cooper
GAS THE SINGLE SIDED SWING ARM WAR NOW
Camden Richardson
Gotta clean it Clean it real good
If I know who will come and when I have some time, yes But I have no idea about the status of SEM, I wasn't online much in the past few weeks. Is everything organized yet? Who will come? Where will it be (I only know of northern Italy)?
Brayden Garcia
is this a fake Suzuki?
Daelim makes clones. Fake CBR125s in bodies in bigger CBRs, fake Honda Supercubs.
Chase Clark
Fug, if I had the 6 grand I'd probably pull the trigger, but I'm looking for something a bit more in the 3-4 grand range
You don't have to put all the bikes on there, just take a pic of WR's helmet, put it in front of a Veeky Forums flag and add some meme phrase. Yeah, we have our camp site reserved and all that's left is for everyone to plan their individual trips. We couldn't find a good one in Italy proper so now we'll stay in Austria close to the Swiss and Italian borders. camping-pfunds.at/ CB 400 has the list of people who want to come, you should ask him about that. I only know he's coming, I am, Shivvy I think, but FKG isn't.
where did you ride today lads? first sunny day here in weeks so made the most of it and rode all morning. roads still wet in places but a good ride nonetheless
I rode to work. 20f out but it wasn't that bad. I learned how to do a burnout today as well.
Jose Mitchell
>miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/5941239876.html "Here for sale a FAST Sports bike, an Aprilia Tuono 1000, the Ferrari of Sports Bike. Bike runs perfect and tries are almost new."
Isn't Ducati the Ferrari of bikes?
Juan Clark
nice. I wanna try burnouts but dont wanna shred my tyre and have to buy a new one
Cooper Robinson
>tfw no money to go to india and buy a freshly made royal enfield >tfw will never fuck hot curry whores on it death awaits
Nicholas Howard
Is cycle gear any good or should I just buy gear online?
Luke Miller
>ubermensch reliable rotax engines >minimal bullshit spaghetti electronics to break >more power and style than the rc51 it's really no contest
Ayden Walker
>camping Pfunds Noice Pretty central, looks good. Do we need to do some pre payment? I'll look after the flag. But I won't manage to do it this week, or next week, and probably also not the week after next week.
Isaac Gomez
road to class, didn't even try to be on time. Seat next to qt I wanted to talk to was taken, and a lardass sat next to me. I'll be on time next week
Dylan Long
>anybody selling anything on craigslist >smart
Parker Butler
A E S T H E T I C
But also having hard cruiser tires and a torque v twin helps a lot.
>Italian bike >Minimal spaghetti Doubt.png
But still, at that point you might as well just get a used gsxr or something. At that price, I can't imagine it's been treated right.
Carson Diaz
>always something broken and never runs I guess
John Nelson
No down payment, they said the spots are reserved for us. No rush m8, I only thought it'd be funny to stake our claim and fly the flag on group rides. If you don't have time or just can't be arsed, no problem. God I'm HYPE. Missing SEM2.0 was a big mistake.
Josiah Torres
>Buy this CBR600RR, it's the MX5 of bikes! >Buy this Honda CB400, it's the Ford Focus of Bikes! >Buy this Harley Davidson, it's the Mustang of bikes!
Justin Hughes
A used gsxr and a vtwin tuono are nothing alike, don't be dumb. It's at least worth checking out tbqh
Jose Wright
What is dumber than riding a motorcycle?
I'll start. Ear stretching was huge among teens and kids when i was in scool
Noah Taylor
I'm going to say no >Let's buy this used 12 year old Italian bike that no one has that's dirt cheap >It's great guys Italy makes reliable, cheap to maintain motorcycles >What could go wrong? Kys
But honestly if you just want a liter naked for not much money, Honda hornet, zrx1100, sv, fz1 or other Jap shit.
Mason Davis
When I had a gf I stuck my tongue through her flabby ear lobes. Never my peepee though.
Jeremiah Stewart
number 2 Being Veeky Forums
this shirt is $300
Angel Sanders
Reminder not to listen to kit kat's advice, on anything, ever.
Xavier Nguyen
Tru
Ayden Phillips
There's a reason Aprilia is called the Honda of Italy.
Xavier Thomas
Yeah I'll see what I can do. SEM 2.0 was goat, too bad that you couldn't come.
But I thought Germany is the Japan of Europe?
Christopher Wright
Or you could buy an actual Honda
Michael Watson
You do realize there's a reliable touring version based of the RSV mille, right? And the dual sport called the pegaso which is also renowned for the reliability.
Go have a look at AF1racing.com and you can see how easy parts are to get and how cheap OEM is.
>kkk talking out of his ass as usual Of course.
Luis Nelson
What kind of bike do you have now?
Matthew Ross
Yeah, it's a damn shame. Especially considering I couldn't come because I blew my money on a vacation with the ex, and now I can't even look at the pictures or think back on it without regret. REEEE
Ryder Evans
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Josiah Turner
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Ethan Taylor
Shadow 700 but I'll be getting a sport standard next
What I've been able to find out >Electrics are dodgy and the wiring degrades >If you let the battery get low, the bike literally cucks itself Engine seems stout.
Still, I would not recommend a cheap Italian bike to anyone, even if they're sexy as fuck.
Dylan Green
>I'll be getting a sport standard next Like what exactly?
Eli Howard
Nobody should buy any poorly maintained bike.
Isaiah Parker
Most likely fz6, but if I can find a good deal on a Buell xb9r or xb12r I might hop on that
Tyler Brooks
If you buy an FZ6 you should convert it to an FZ6N
Hudson Cook
Nah trick, the fairing will be better for touring. I'm tired of long days with no wind protection at all
Lucas Jenkins
I still think the FZ6 is a bit of an ugly duckling even after owning one. Still looks better than an SV650 but bikini fairings are hard to make look nice from all angles.
Gabriel Evans
Oh Yes, that sucks even more
Brody Murphy
I like the sv650 gen 2 bikini fairing.
But yeah it's not the prettiest, but it'll be functional. I'm not too worried about aesthetics on a bike like this.
How long did you have an fz6 for?
Camden Jackson
Oh well, next SEM is gonna be cash as long as I don't crash. The campsite is booked from July 29th to August 1st by the way.
Joshua Bell
2 years
Jaxon Hill
Nice, thanks, that's a good time. I now can say for sure that I have time to come too,btw, and money should also be no problem, at least if I don't completely fuck up with something unexpected
Evan Morris
The flag idea is not stupid, but please don't make one of those bosuzoku thing to ride with. Something small that we can hang on a tent is good enough.
Also you nazi got anything to sai on moto-detail bags? I need a 50l one and they cost half than ortlieb/touratech
Jayden Jones
What was ownership like? And is it good stock or was there anything you need to change on it? Also any known failure points?
Jason Butler
Noice, looking forward to it.
Yeah no, I want to be able to ride with it after all, and it shouldn't be expensive either.
Aaron Diaz
>Yeah no, I want to be able to ride with it after all Yeah, no.
Thomas Fisher
Didn't see the second question at first. I have a big pillion seat bag from them (m.louis.de/artikel/moto-detail-gepaecksystem-universal/10026555), you can fit a lot in there and they seem waterproof enough but I basically never use it. >small opening so can't fit big laptop, or any tent or sleeping bag in there >possibly difficult to fasten to bike
I usually take a 20 l waterproof boat bag (dunno what they're called in English, basically a cylinder 30 cm across and 80 long made of plasticy stuff with one open side that you roll together to close it) and put that on the luggage rack, and stuff the rest of my stuff in side bags and/or a large backpack.
Nolan Sanchez
If it's small enough, and I ride slowly enough... >me >going fast
Colton Lopez
Like all jap bikes, they're reliable but if anything goes wrong it's a real pain in the ass to fix. Need to take off loads of stuff just to access something or unscrew 4 bolts.
It's a fine bike stock. Really quiet exhaust; if you wanted a louder one they're kind of expensive. I put new levers on it and a fender delete because stock fenders are always shit. If you want to tour you should probably get heated grips because the fairings don't cover your 2 outside fingers on either side.
Biggest qualms with it were the slowly updating speedo/hard to see tach and working on it was painful. Only thing I know of that's known for going wrong is that for some reason the clutch wire wears out and gets stiff really easily. Have to get a new one every couple years or so.
Overall it was a great bike, easy to recommend. The best low(ish) cc sport touring bike on the market still since Yamaha discontinued it.
Eli Adams
>I usually take a 20 l waterproof boat bag Yeah that's what I'm getting, they're waterproof bags/rucksack. I already have a 35lt form kappa and it's decent, I just need a bigger one so I don't have to bring my side bags, even though the pockets on them are pretty handy.
That's stupid, unless you turn the isle of man flag into a swastika
Noah Torres
Thanks man. I appreciate that. I read about the speedo issue, unless you change the computing system I can't imagine there's an easy fix. How was fueling on it? Think a power Commander would be needed?
Aiden Anderson
Finally got some actual sunshine in Devon, we could carry some proper speed this time.
Xavier Young
>Single sided swingarm >V4 Muh dick
Dominic Thomas
Cheers bruv
Ian Perry
The later models had a different cluster,. It probably updates faster or you could put a custom one on it if it really bothered you. I also found that it seemed to try to estimate what your speed would be at as if it was a full 1.5 seconds behind. For example:
>Going 60km/h, gaining 20km/h every 1.5 second >Speedo updates to say 80, pretty accurate >Stop accelerating at 80 >Speedo updates to show you at what you would have been at if you kept accelerating >Next update, it's back to your accurate speed Just a weird little quirk, it wasn't enough of a pain to warrant doing anything about swapping the speedo out to something else, but a weird decision by Yamaha.
Jaxson Gomez
Is ABS a meme?
Brandon Thompson
dat castrol livery
Matthew Davis
Sorry didn't even answer your question. I didn't notice any fueling issues at all, it was really smooth. I wouldn't get a power commander unless I changed something with the engine or exhaust.
Here's a shit willie on it I did just for you.
Ian Watson
Yes it will kill you dead
Cool to know. My buddy had one with an aftermarket exhaust and it was so damn good sounding. I was in love with it.
Np, tfw no rvf750r or NR
Gabriel Miller
Thanks mate, that's the answer I needed. Good to know. Fuck I need to sell this shadow
Angel Long
>tfw no rvf750r or NR
is 400
Robert Lopez
you don't need it and it kills performance and /feel/ get it if you're a shitcunt commuter, but if you're just starting to ride it'll make you unable to ever ride without
Brayden Hughes
I've had both my front and rear lock up and slide and I've never went down because I'm not retarded and don't keep holding them. Unless you get silly in the corners it's unnecessary IMO.
Bentley Hill
I know, you live in bongistan
Luis Carter
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Xavier Green
So that gsx-r that was doing laps at motegi with a GSX-RR swingarm on it for some reason was a fucking motoamerica bike? jesus christ, consider yamaha annihilated on sight.
Toni the tiger gonna kill it.
Ayden Reed
>try to look cool or the other bikers >look like a shitlord squid instead