They say that the reason most new cars look like shit compared to the svelte designs of yesteryear is because of safety standards like crumple zones, airbags, bumpers that are kinder to pedestrians, etc and an obsession with aerodynamic shapes to enhance fuel economy and speed.
Just how much do all those modern safety features limit the design of a car? If a car company wanted to, could it create something with a sexy 60s body but with the passenger safety of a modern car, or would it be structurally impossible to do so?
You can skirt regulations with limited build quantities, like the DeLorean, but then you've eliminated your economies of scale and the car will be snapped up with demand driving price through the roof. Otherwise, no, it's pretty fucking hard to get around all the new laws. Just look at the ass end of the newer Dodge pony cars. That's the kind of shit you have to pull these days to approximate old styling.
Isaiah Sullivan
It's possible, but would make the vehicle very heavy.
The problem is with the legislation. It was put into power by people who have no idea how motor vehicles work. Emissions, safety, and fuel economy regulations need to be reworked completely to have a true modern equivalent to the pic related.
The price of the vehicle will go up, the more expensive the materials used are. Usually lighter and stronger is more expensive. Price becomes a huge factor when you're just trying to stay at a certain price point. CAFE has horrible bias towards light truck classification vehicles. The IIHS and NHTSA are always looking for new ways to fail vehicles for crash safety, like overly specific testing (small overlap for example), which forces vehicles to have extremely heavy crumple zones.
so yeah, if it was affordable, it would be done. Otherwise, no. You can't have a sexy 60s body with the passenger safety of a modern car, all because of shitty legislation.
Tyler Price
modern cars are better get over it >inb4 muh SAE gross hp muh boomer styling
Angel Gutierrez
The proportions on a lot of modern cars are fucking hideous. However, the performance is undeniable.
If changes to the legislation were made, we could have better looking Camaros.
Eli Turner
Who cares if they perform better when they look like uncreative trash? Regulation and mindless consumerism has ruined any ingenuity and creativity in automobile design. It's almost more practical to modernize an older vehicle model so you have both the reliability of new and style of old than it is to try and find a decent looking modern vehicle.
Jace Barnes
Are you a homosexual gay?
Jaxon Wood
No, which is why looks like trash to me.
Wyatt Reed
No. But judging by your reply you might want to check the FAQ for the rules. This is an 18+ website.
Jacob King
le wrong generation going hard
Dominic Mitchell
It can definitely be done, but to do it properly is very expensive. It's all the small detail of older cars that are different. Wipers, switches, handles, glass frames, lights. Those chrome bumpers would have to be fake plastic ones though.
Christopher Wilson
Thinking that kind of SO MANY FACETS WOW SO AGGRESSIVE styling looks good only makes you look retarded.
Hudson Jackson
this kind of thought makes u look 12 and mentally disadvantaged
Jack Cook
And your phone posting doesn't? Your shift key and punctuation broken? Modern car styling is juvenile and edgy as all fucking hell. None of them look good. Do you not see the terminal fucking underbite that thing has? Disgusting.
Cameron Powell
lmao
muscle cars have always been immature garbage its just upholding tradition
maybe one day we will have time travel so u can live in the generation u were meant to be
Grayson Davis
>muscle They ALL look like that you double nigger, have you seen the current goddamn fucking Prius? It only gets fucking worse as you move to cars that are even worth a damn. The new S2K looks horrific.
Jacob Foster
muh generalizations
Lucas Cox
How is something from a previous generation being superior consitute a yerning to be a part of that generation? What you are saying is that you HAVE to like what is modern just becuase it's new and you're not allowed to like anything else. What a weak argument.
Jackson Green
t. bubble aesthetics aficionado
Ryan Edwards
nothing superior about previous generations
just objectively worse
what a tard lmao
Dylan Taylor
>nothing superior about previous generations >t. Arrogant child
Jaxson Young
What is it about that current laws that makes it difficult to make the sleek body shapes of old cars? Is it shit like "your car must be this thick and this rounded to make it safer for pedestrians" or something?
Elijah Roberts
so are u old or just a wrong generation fgt
u dont have any excuse tbqh
things are better than ever
Hunter Lee
>My opinion is better than yours and you are (insert ad hominem). I refuse to believe you had enough brain power to acquire a dribers license.
Carson Butler
You're on the right track. There are specified regulations (like front having to be more pedestrian safe) and there is vehicular footprint that would categorize it into a certain class, changing its target values.
Wyatt Gray
im not talking about opinions u cockwrangler
its fact
ur the 1 who THINKS old shit is worth anything compared to today
aka ur opinion
btw whats a "dribers" license
Jason Turner
>I'm not talking about opinions, I'm talking about your opinion. What? >dribers It's called a typographical error. Here is a Wikipedia article in Simple English for you. If you have trouble understanding it I can find a simpler explanation. simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical_error
Jack Nelson
except old shit is shit thats worse than new shit
wowsers how dumb are you
Luis Young
You do know ad hominem is a logical fallacy, yes? Your argument is unstructured filler fitting of your overall ignorant nature. You have not given me one, not a single point to support your topic.
Josiah Torres
u know that thinking calling something a fallacy discredits it is a fallacy 2 you hypocritical fucktard
just lmao now ur gonna sit and cry about arguments
nothing to argue
ur wrong
James Rodriguez
More filler? It's obvious you can't even speak like a normal human being. How do you expect me to take you seriously when you continue to destroy your own ethos.
Christopher Carter
aka u dont know shit so you can only dance around like a namby pampy fgt
new is better than old
not refutable
Jonathan Reed
Nice Logical Fallacy Fallacy. You are concluding that my argument is false simply by my attempt to make this a more civil dialogue. Again, you eill get nowhwhere by simply throwing empty words at me.
Jaxson Cox
lol
ur still wrong
u cant even make up an argument so you dance around
Dylan Miller
Subjective arguments are not actually arguable. There are no emperical facts to make points from. In fact, I have no idea why you keep replying to me.
Nicholas Perez
yeh I already won to the point u cant even defend urself lol
its just sad at this point guess Ill stop before u kill urself or something
Caleb Cooper
Okay. Sure you did. I'm going to go find a sane individual to have real dialogue with. Enjoy your victory champ. You sure showed me. Anything made after 1985 is for cock sucking faggots btw.
Daniel Sanders
HEY FUCKING IDIOT NEWSHIT Don't respond to no-punctuation no-caps guy. He loves getting replies. He doesn't actually believe what he's saying. By all means we need more articulate people like you on Veeky Forums but don't fall for this guy he usually pops up in stance threads too.
Elijah Edwards
Would an old 70s car be as safe as a modern car if you added a massive roll cage ot it?
Jaxson Peterson
Of you roll it, yes, if you crash it probably even worse, cage bars might deform or brake and cause even more harm to occupants.
Luke Perry
my very own stalker :3
no
that easily makes it less safe that it already was when ur head smacks into it
Julian Russell
Is strawman the only argument you can make?
Juan Jackson
lmao
there is no argument to be made
previous generations are worse
Jack Jenkins
ur lit a carbon copy of me lol
im the true stance thread lurker this doofus is a phony
btw stance is still cool lol
Adam Cook
okay everyone ignore him. I don't know why you fucking retards reply to him.
Nicholas Powell
It has more to do with pedestrian safety, which is more affected by the shape of bodywork.