Unpopular Veeky Forums opinions thread

Post unpopular but true historical opinions. I'll start.

>The "French" Revolution was a mistake and all it did was bring rise to the dictator Napoleon and spread degeneracy across Europe.
>The vast majority of Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians were blonde haired and blue eyed Aryans
>The Battle of Thermopylae was one of the most important battles in history, because if the Persians had completely won, then all of Europe would have become Muslim.
>WW1, and to some extent WW2, was caused primarily by the aggression of the Allies especially France and Britain.
>The horse stirrup is one of the most important inventions of all history
>The First World War was not nearly as bad as people like to portray it as, and is generally seen the way it is as a result of cuck liberal media shunning nationalism.
>Julius Caesar was more important than Augustus in creating the Roman Empire
>France is the enemy of Europe, causing most problems, spreading degeneracy and being the main aggressor for almost every war (and surrendering)
>The enlightenment was a mistake.

>The "French" Revolution was a mistake and all it did was bring rise to the dictator Napoleon and spread degeneracy across Europe.

You're an idiot and an anglo to boot.

>The vast majority of Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians were blonde haired and blue eyed Aryans

Furthermore, as the anglo you are, I believe your name to be H.S. Chamberlain.

>The Battle of Thermopylae was one of the most important battles in history, because if the Persians had completely won, then all of Europe would have become Muslim.

You don't even understand why the persians were in greece.

>WW1, and to some extent WW2, was caused primarily by the aggression of the Allies especially France and Britain.

Partly true (about WW1), but nobody is disputing this.

>The horse stirrup is one of the most important inventions of all history

This is not a radical or unpopular thought, but you greatly overestimate it's value.

>The First World War was not nearly as bad as people like to portray it as, and is generally seen the way it is as a result of cuck liberal media shunning nationalism.

You're an idiot. WW1 is coupled together with the complete misery that occuring during and after it. There have been worse places and times in history, but WW1 was bad. Also Spanish Flu.

>Julius Caesar was more important than Augustus in creating the Roman Empire

Wow, do you really think so Sherlock?

>France is the enemy of Europe, causing most problems, spreading degeneracy and being the main aggressor for almost every war (and surrendering)

No, the English are you fucking anglo.

>The enlightenment was a mistake.

It's the sole reason you're not toiling in the mud right now. So yes, bad things have come from it.

>You don't even understand why the persians were in greece.
why were they in greca?

if it weren't for the dark ages we'd be living on the moon by now

As a punitive mission against the greeks. When they took Athens, they saw their mission as over and went back to Persia, leaving a token force behind.

Thermopylae as an isolated event is meaningless. Salamis is where it's at. And even so, there's nothing from stopping the greeks from throwing off the Persian yoke later on, which happened dozens of times in various satrapies across the persian empire. Furthermore, Persian occupation was more or less just installing a pro-Persian satrap and letting whatever indigenous culture be.

If the persians had won over the greeks, they would not have been in power for very long.

/pol/ bait of the day.

You're the biggest retard if seen here in a long time Op,

Please instead of spouting /pol/ pseudo Knowledge pick up a history book an read it first

>Persians
>Muslim

Nice bait. Have a reply.

Actually the persians crushing greece would've been objectively better for all the world. Arabs, let alone islam, would've never rised to historical relevance in a world dominated by a strong persian state.

And everything we got from greeks came to us through the roman filter, not directly from Greece. Romans were also conquerors, as brutal as the persians if not more.

The CCP massively improved China's healthcare.
Modern day ethnic groups cannot be equated with historical ones.
Early medieval Europe was a backwater compared to the Islamic empires or China.
Early settlers in America only considered it an untouched wilderness because they were travelling through areas where disease had wiped out whole populations.

Anarchism is the way

The French should get a lot more shit for the stuff they did in WWI

>The forgien policy of the Republic was eniterly focused destroying Germany, which was much more aggresive than anything that the Germans had cooking up.

> The French media always managed to skew the Birtish press towards them, particularly during the Moroccan Crisises, in which they blew a very inocuous comment by the Kaiser into an international Crisis, while also not getting shit for it.

>The French are at the root of the alliance system, as the formation of the Anti-German Alliance with Russia led to the Russian being more confident in supporting Serbia.

>The French had turned thier backs on the ideals of thier nation, and let men like Fosch and Joffre puppeter the whole nation

>Even though the French could have defended Verdun better, they didnt, and instead tuned what should have been something on the scale of maybe an offensive on the scale of the battle of Loos, into the bloodyist battle of the war.

>The French refused to help thier allies. Even with the British High commonand being very Anti French, the French barely met with them until 1916, even after the Brits reformed the army cabinet. And when French obsevors said that they could help with the Itlian campign in 1916, just before the Great offensive of that summer, French high command refused to help.

>It was French diplomats who argued for the German guilt cluase, the extreme wieght of the dedts placed on Germany, and the fact that the German military could not enter the Rhienland.

Also, Cromwell was a good leader besides the Puritan thing

>Unpopular opinions
>Posts /pol/tard hugbox points

Your opinions are unpopular because they're retarded

>The "French" Revolution was a mistake and all it did was bring rise to the dictator Napoleon and spread degeneracy across Europe.
The Ancien Regime was bloated, incompetent, and corrupt.
>The vast majority of Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians were blonde haired and blue eyed Aryans
It's like you've never looked at an ancient mosiac
>The Battle of Thermopylae was one of the most important battles in history, because if the Persians had completely won, then all of Europe would have become Muslim.
The battle of Thermopylae would be a historical footnote to the battle of Salamis were there not so many LARPers fellating the Spartans as the ultimate overrated meme warriors
>WW1, and to some extent WW2, was caused primarily by the aggression of the Allies especially France and Britain.
Right because France and Great Britain declared war on Serbia
>The horse stirrup is one of the most important inventions of all history
Is this bait or are you really that dumb?
>The First World War was not nearly as bad as people like to portray it as, and is generally seen the way it is as a result of cuck liberal media shunning nationalism.
thanks for admitting that whatever fondness you have for history is as a vehicle to serve your moronic political opinions
>Julius Caesar was more important than Augustus in creating the Roman Empire
Julius baked the pie and Augustus took the pie out of the oven and served it. It was Augustus's domestic and foreign policy that set the precedent for every emperor who came after
>France is the enemy of Europe, causing most problems, spreading degeneracy and being the main aggressor for almost every war (and surrendering)
more retarded nationalism founded by feelings rather than facts
>The enlightenment was a mistake.
There's literally nothing stopping you from moving to the Canadian Rockies or Mongolian steppe and living as a mud farmer

>The forgien policy of the Republic was eniterly focused destroying Germany, which was much more aggresive than anything that the Germans had cooking up.
Too bad that french try to detente before the ww1, Poincare was the first french president eating at the german embassade.
We know it's you Hans, stop believing that other country should give you their land because you want them.

>Early medieval Europe was a backwater compared to the Islamic empires or China.

I wouldn't say Europe was backwater, but it was certainly lagging behind the Islamic world at some point until the Mongols destroyed Baghdad.

throughout antiquity the Middle East was always more prosperous and cosmopolitan than Europe.

>actually replying to his painfully obvious bait

>Poincare was the first french president eating at the german embassade

If he truely was a great diplomat, then why didnt he stop the Military cabinet from openly insulting many diffrent memebers of the Triple allences leadership, even before WWI, for no reason beyond petty nationalism.

Quality answer to shit bait, it's what make Veeky Forums and Veeky Forums great, even in shit you find knoweldge.

Wasn't the Achymeanid Persian Empire Zartoshtian? (Zoroastrian) and only later (as in thousand plus years later) did they become Muslim, after the Arabs conquered Persia.

Plus Persia allowed its newly conquered nations to keep their religion as an anti-revolution kind of deterrent.

this retarded pasta again
why do you cunts still feed this retard (You)s?

You don't get (You)s when you're OP, desu.

>>The vast majority of Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians were blonde haired and blue eyed Aryans


>Egyptians


I mean the concept is retarded for Romans and Greeks too but at least there are some Roman and Greek depictions of blonde people, other than one pharaoh out of hundreds being red headed what makes you think THE VAST MAJORITY of Egyptians were blonde?

Just look at Egyptian paintings and they are always depicted as dark brown and dark haired.

Ireland is the single greatest nation on Earth.

Romans were black, and so was the rest of Europe, until the slaves came an bred the black out of the Germans, and then out of the French and British. Thats why the Spainish and itlians are black now. Also greece dosent exist it was a conspracy made up by the Persians to make sure that the people of the rest of the Empire were happy that they had any enemy. Also Tuterburg Forest was an inside job, and the Jews created western civilisation, and should own all of eourope as a result, Happy Quanza

Also phantom time is real, but the Itlians were actully the ones behind it

Kys for falling for that horse shit bait
Kys for agreeing with a part of that bait

bbut you realise the persians won the battle of thermopylae

wait you think that when Thermopylae happened there was islam anywhere on this planet?

You just showed us that you have absolutely 0 knowledge about history.

go read a book or 2 then post again fool.

Kill yourself.

>The "French" Revolution was a mistake and all it did was bring rise to the dictator Napoleon and spread degeneracy across Europe.'
True desu. Napoleon was based and did modernise some aspects of Europe's administration, but yeah he did do a lot of bad shit.
>The vast majority of Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians were blonde haired and blue eyed Aryans
Nah this is bullshit.
>The Battle of Thermopylae was one of the most important battles in history, because if the Persians had completely won, then all of Europe would have become Muslim.
Not likely desu. History would be very different that's for sure. The 'West' as we know it may never have existed.
>WW1, and to some extent WW2, was caused primarily by the aggression of the Allies especially France and Britain.
Both sides were at fault.
>The horse stirrup is one of the most important inventions of all history
Probably
>The First World War was not nearly as bad as people like to portray it as, and is generally seen the way it is as a result of cuck liberal media shunning nationalism.
Nah WWI was shit m8. And mercantile nationalism/imperialism was partly to blame.
>Julius Caesar was more important than Augustus in creating the Roman Empire
Debatable. Both men had different intentions and strategies.
>France is the enemy of Europe, causing most problems, spreading degeneracy and being the main aggressor for almost every war (and surrendering)
The French Revolution has caused a lot of problems, but the French themselves are Europeans m8. Pre-Revolutionary France had a lot of positive influence, as well as some post-Revolutionary Frenchmen (Guenon)
>The enlightenment was a mistake.
Ehhh, pretty simplistic. If you mean science and technological advancement was a mistake then you're just being autistic. However, liberalism and egalitarianism were definitely a mistake so you are partly correct (although both ideas did pre-date the Enlightenment in some form)

he was clearly sighting proto-carriers

>replies seriously

kys

All civilizations known and unknown to man were created by white Aryans, most indo-european but some pre-indo-european.

The jews let the kerkaporta open on may 29th, 1453.

>Ehhh, pretty simplistic. If you mean science and technological advancement was a mistake then you're just being autistic. However, liberalism and egalitarianism were definitely a mistake so you are partly correc
the two go hand in hand. Einstein was a lowly patent clerk from a hated minority whose revolutionary ideas never would have risen to power (The Nazis dismissed relativity as "Jewish lies") had it not been for his colleagues who care more about merit than national identity.

Communist pseudoscience is further proof that if you want progress, technological or otherwise, people need to be free.

I've got one:

>Conquest is always justified if one has the power to successfully run the conquered lands

"OH BOOO HOOOO WHITEY NEEDS TO GIVE US REPARATIONS FOR TAKING OUR LAND"

Oh shut up, your ancestors took land from other tribes too. How is that any different just because Europeans had the advantage?

Very poor post

>unpopular but true historical opinions
>true historical opinions
>true opinions
>posts /pol/ garbage
Go back to your containment board

>Nobody recognized obvious bait

Come on, not even polocks are retarded enough to call BC Persians muslims

Fíor

You call this bait? I'm offended that you thought those opinions would work on me.

>You're an idiot and an Anglo to boot.
Actually I'm a German-American with strong Anglo-Celtic blood, so what? cuck.
>Furthermore, as the Anglo you are, I believe your name to be H.S. Chamberlain.
Not an argument.
>You don't even understand why the Persians were in Greece.
They were trying to enslave the ancient Spartans.
>You're an idiot. WW1 is coupled together with the complete misery that occuring during and after it. There have been worse places and times in history, but WW1 was bad. Also Spanish Flu.
Most people enjoyed WW1, they felt pride in serving their country.
>No, the English are you fucking anglo.
The Eternal Gaul is behind everything.

Not an argument.

They essentially were.

>Shitskins
>Contributing to anything

>The Ancien Regime was bloated, incompetent, and corrupt.
That regime was cancer, but so are all French regimes
>It's like you've never looked at an ancient mosiac
I have and plenty feature blonde haired and blue eyed figures, if they don't then it has generally been changed. Augustus was a pure blooded Aryan.
>Right because France and Great Britain declared war on Serbia
They did force Germany to take up arms by mobilizing troops.

t.cuck

The Spartans held them back for days as inspired the rest of the Greeks to rise up against the Muslim invaders

I want to

t. cucks

3/10

>people falling for bait this obvious
Fucking retards, seriously?

He's right about the French Revolution and the Enlightenment being the seed of degeneracy, though.

>The vast majority of Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians were blonde haired and blue eyed Aryans
>Blonde, blue-eyed.
>Aryans

I do not compute. Or do you mean that in the perverted sense, in which case you are wrong as shit (just ask Livy or, heck, any Roman historian).

>Most people enjoyed WW1, they felt pride in serving their country.
>The First World War was not nearly as bad as people like to portray it as, and is generally seen the way it is as a result of cuck liberal media shunning nationalism.

The term "shell-shock" was born right after WW1. So much for enjoying it, huh? Not to mention the fact that you conflate patriotism and nationalism demonstrates how stupid you are.


>The Spartans held them back for days as inspired the rest of the Greeks to rise up against the Muslim invaders
>The Spartans held them back for days as inspired the rest of the Greeks to rise up against the Muslim invaders

Persians at the time weren't even Muslim, they were Zoroastrians. Besides, the Athenians saved Greece's ass, not a tactical move that ultimately wrecked the Spartan military for a long time.

>The Spartans held them back for days as inspired the rest of the Greeks to rise up against the Muslim invaders
Thermopylae was a rear guard action fought by 3,000 Greeks, only 300 of whom were Spartans. Greeks were well on their way to mobilizing by the time Thermopylae happened. The real defeat to the Persian war effort was the battle of Salamis.

And don't forget that the Battle of Marathon was probably the most important battle of that entire series of confrontations and the Greeks achieved victory without the use of a single Spartan.

Spartans are meme warriors

>German-American
Your even baiting the people your jerking off. Jesus

Do you guys even know what cuck means? Or is it just a general non-argument once you've been BTFO'd

It's generally only something /pol/fats say when someone confrontes them with facts and logic

The Nazis were a pale imitation of the Kaiserreich,
Hitler was neither a competent general nor an able administrator. His politics, and his personality, were generally buffoonish and not charismatic.
Spain would have been better off if it'd stayed under Republican rule instead of Franco's religious fascists.

i know right jesus people your puting way to much thought into these responses

>Judaism got monotheism from Zoroastrianism.

Considering that the earliest independent mention of any Zoroastrian belief comes from some 700 or so years after the contact and supposed Zoroastrian influence on Judaism, I find this argument sketchy; especially to the degree that it's held as obviously true.

It requires anyone who holds it to take Zoroastrian oral histories and their religious texts more or less at their word, while at the same time applying a much higher standard of scrutiny to Hebraic oral traditions and religious texts.

>this whole fucking thread

>Most people enjoyed WW1
legitimately hilarious

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>He keeps calling Persians muslim

Even today the brand of Islam practiced by Iranians (Persians) is a little 'off' in that they literally celebrate a Zoroastrian dude who murdered a Caliph.

To be honest, the Greeks were probably more proto-Islamic than the Persians, since the Greeks thought they were effeminate degenerates (and it has been generally observable throughout history that Persians seek pleasure and comfort above all other things)

Also degeneracy is a super nebulous term and I'm going to take it as anything you don't like that other people enjoy doing.

Thanks for the laugh OP

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