why didn't they gave the 4c a manual gear box ass option?
I love the car a lot but with all this pure driving experience things a manual gear box would have been perfect.
They could sell this car way better and the value would go up for sure.
Anyone who buys this car don't car for lap time anyway.
Blame muh 0-60 times for that. A quick shifting transmission with close gearing is the only way they can utilize the engine's pathetic output.
Should have been manual only with a V6 as an option.
>pathetic output
Faster than a Lamborghi-...Audi R8...
same reason they went for struts at the back - packaging
apparently the linkages couldn't fit
Because of the weight
manual gearbox is almost always lighter than a dual clutch unless it's made of iron
Because posers buy fast cars now. Enthusiasts buy 80s and 90s shit
Have you ever worked on a fiero?
It's not a linkage issue, it's a $$$ issue.
>I know better than engineers, marketing analysts and executives that spend millions on the development of a car
>A manufacturer should cater to my taste and my taste only as that is obviously the superior taste that will totally be shared by everyone else
>It doesn't matter that I will never buy the car anyway, my opinion of what constitutes a good car is the only one that matters.
Thanks for your deep insights on the automotive market, OP, have you considered writing an email to share your ground breaking theories with the people in charge of developing cars? I'm sure your superior knowledge will convince everyone to build cars that you like
Alfa 4C ran the Ring in 8:04
That is pathetic
Because no one would buy it.
They obviously went for the street legal track car appeal, and race cars haven't had manual transmission for a long time.
As much as I enjoy stirring around in the center console if I want a performance car I want a performance transmission.
>That is pathetic
The driver was a journalist, Horst Von Saurma and not a professional driver, you dip.
--> Still faster than a twice-the-price Audi R8
A bit of porn
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I don't see what's pathetic about a car that's built from salvaged Giulietta parts and is up there on the board with cars that are more expensive and have engines twice as big.
Credit where credit is due. For what it is it ain't bad.
most Nurburgring lap times are set by journalists (very often it's the nurburgring expert Von Saurma)
and it is not faster than the R8
the slowest R8 (electric R8 E tron) ran the Ring in 8:01
When talking about the R8 that user is probably referring to the R8 V8 which posted a time of 8:04 in 2007.
t. Automatic driver
manual is outdated garbage
luddites need to stop complaining
Typical answer of someone who can't deal with the truth.
If you represented more than a vocal, autistic minority with no purchasing power, don't you think they would still make plenty of super and hyper cars with manual gearboxes? After all..It's the best transmission out there, isn't it?
Which is why nobody wants the V12 Vantage with the manual.. oh they are all sold out already? That's weird.
While the 4C sells like hotcakes.. oh it doesn't? That's weird.
What if I told you that the majority of people who buy high end sports cars don't care about driver involvement, but use their car as a status symbol?
Just paddles are what most high end makers offer doesn't mean that it's superior to a manual transmission in terms of driver engagement and FEELS
Oh wow..One supercar with a manual, what about literally all the others? Why aren't they rotting inside showrooms? By your logic all the lambos, Porsches, Ferraris, paganis, other Astons, you name it, should all be failed projects with no sales numbers.
Try again, user, one car with a manual that sells good doesn't make all the other cars with no manuals shit
Please humor me for a second? What car do you drive and is it automatic?
I know it's unrelated.
So you are just proving my point and answering OP's question: they don't put a manual in there because it won't sell and those few who can't keep screaming about manuals don't have the money to buy one in the first place or are so low in numbers that a manual version is not economically viable.
Simple as that.
Volvo C30, 6spd manual
You have to find another insult to throw at me, autocuck/autotragic faggot doesn't fit I'm afraid
>those few who can't keep screaming about manuals don't have the money to buy one in the first place or are so low in numbers that a manual version is not economically viable.
Nah, they just buy a Cayman instead which is already the superior car.
The 4C is a car that is raw, and uncomfortable. Its philosophy is focused on driver engagement. Yet it only has 2 pedals. And that is why it fails. Obviously Ferraris and other luxosupercars don't need a manual, but this car does.
I wasnt going to insult you, I was curious. Why are you so defensive user?
>Getting a cuck-8 option
The real r8 screams
I just can't stand people who think they know better than manufacturers and that think their opinion is the only one that should be followed by everyone who builds cars.
That's it, it's just plain ignorance and it makes me mad, I can't help it
Apples and oranges.
This thread is about the 4C, which is aimed at the enthusiast segment (like the Aston).
I'm not disagreeing in that the new autos are generally quicker either. A manual just gives more pure analogue feedback, which for many is a highly appreciated trait in cars like this.
>This thread is about the 4C, which is aimed at the enthusiast segment
Either it isn't or the modern enthusiast segment doesn't care about manuals anymore
Which is why it doesn't sell? Makes total sense.
>Either it isn't or the modern enthusiast segment doesn't care about manuals anymore
Is that why the majority of automotive reviewers don't favor the car compared to legitimate driver's cars?
I wouldn't consider around 1000 units/year in Europe "not selling". That may just be a third of all Caymans combined but that's due to its price.
The 4C is still situated in a market where price is also a factor. So it's as fast as a Cayman but costs as much as a Cayman S, both of which are more comfortable, more powerful and more of a status symbol.
However compare it to other purist enthusiasts cars like the Lotus Exige you'll see that the 4C outsells them by a large margin.
I just wish there was a version where they didn't go full autist with carbon fibre so I could afford the damn thing.
It's an Alfa. They'd fuck it up.
Or they'd sell manuals to americans, they'd break it, and then they'd complain about 'fragile europoor shit'.
yuropoors only brag about 0-60 and burger king laptimes.