/ORG/ - Off Road General

>Toyota Edition
Please post Toyotas and other 4x4s from my childhood only.

ITT:
Toyotas
Wagoneers
Paved roads
Safe spaces
No GM products allowed

I'm currentIy a hasbike and am looking to buy a truck. I want something mid-size and capable offroad but practical. need 4 doors and reasonable room for 4-5 people preferably.

Plan to use it as a little camping/expedition vehicle and something to use whenever I go out and need to bring people along.

Needs:
4 wheel drive
decent offroad aftermarket
preferably a good amount of power
hoping for semi-decent economy but not expecting it
solid reliability
4 doors
something in the sub-20-25k range used.

I've considered pic related (Frontier) because I think they look cool and know they're based on the same frame as the Titan. The VQ motors are a gud. Decent aftermarket. They don't have the Toyota tax but are just as good

Also obviously considering the 1st and 2nd generation Tacomas but the 1st gens were a bit small and the second gens had some issues. Still wouldn't mind one.

Not opposed to a mid-size SUV or even a full size truck if the case could be made. I do prefer the bed of a truck though. Motorcycles, hauling shit, and such.

What say you Veeky Forums?

Personally I'd go with the Tacoma, under 25k shouldn't be too hard. The aftermarket cannot be beat and muh reliability.

If you are in fact set on something not having the Toyota tax, then personally I'd go with the Colorado over the Frontier, but that's because of personal shit(looks, MAGA, etc).

You've got the general idea, its just up to your taste/budget at this point.
For what you want, the frontier would be great for.
If you decide at some point you decide you want to do hardcore offroading, then come back with your new parameters.

>tacoma
i don't know why everyone gets all butthurt about the resale value of the tacos
tacomas are good trucks

good for your weekly trip to the mall, maybe

Obvious answer is tacoma, but it really sounds like you should be looking for a SUV
Look for older land cruisers, 4runners. If you're looking to sell a few years from now avoid nissan

>ywn take ur wife, 2.5 kids and a dog/cat on a rolling adventure out in your japanese bronco
sad desu

Buying a new Taco at $35k and selling it for $30k instead of buying a competitor at $35k and selling it for $25k makes sense. In that case, "holding value the longest" is beneficial to you. However once you get past that point, the prolonged depreciation period becomes less beneficial to the point that it actually flops and becomes a disadvantage.

You've got people looking for cheap trucks paying $8k for a Taco they'll sell for $5k because "it holds its value" instead of $3k for a competitor they can sell for $2k when they're done. For most people, the logic is just backwards as fuck.

why is it wheelspinning but not kicking up dust?

These threads fucking suck now. It wasn't enough to just avatarfag and circlejerk but now you've switched over to flat-out hostility.

fuck all of you.

don't question JDM wizardry

See the blur behind the tires? It's been touched up to remove the kicked up dirt to make it look like it's not having a hard time climbing the slight slope of a dirt road.

>tires on the driver side are not spinning
>open diff as fuck

also the back driver's side tire is not moving at all, which is also perplexing

the car is stationary, they just shooped in moving wheels

every relevant general on Veeky Forums turned super shit

Any advice for babby's first offroad vehicle? I have other cars so it doesn't need to be an all around DD, but rather just for taking out on the weekends for light stuff.

Budget?

Honestly any BOF midsize SUV that isn't too rusted out and has a healthy motor/trans is a solid start. Toyotas have Toyota tax, XJ Cherokees have Meme tax, but there's a ton of decent stuff that is very undervalued. Think early 90s Pathfinder, Isuzu Trooper/Rodeo, Mitsubishi Montero/Montero Sport, S10 Blazer, Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee.

Pasta-ing my response to you from the other thread, in case you haven't seen it:

Honestly, just try running it stock for a bit, or stock sized A/T tires rather. A Pro-4X frontier or TRD-OR Tacoma is no slouch offroad in terms of traction or clearance (Tacoma is def higher than Frontier). I will say that the 2nd gen Frontiers are still pretty tight in the back seat for a grown man to sit in for any sort of extended period of time. Have never dealt with 1st gen Taco or Frontier Crewcabs, I'd imagine they'd only be tighter. 2nd gen Taco rear row is about as roomy as it gets for a midsize rear row of seats.

I'd be tempted in recommending that you take a look at used half-ton crew cabs, honestly any one of the domestics will match that VQ40 frontier for mpg, although admittedly none of them are as fun to drive as a smaller stick shift midsize truck.

If you're willing to look at a few older options, or slightly higher mile options here's a few options out of left field:

1st gen Tundra: assuming frame is not rotten, and avoid occasional trans issues on early year trucks, these are about the sweet middle ground between midsizers and huge modern half-tons. 4.7L 1UZ is a great motor. Not modern V8 powerful, but usefully more torquey than any V6, and reasonably fuel efficient if driven sanely. Great offroad chops in terms of clearance, there's some aftermarket support as well.

higher mile 2nd gen Tundra: drives and feels big, but a Doublecab (like a fat extended cab) would easily fit grown people in the back, they're built incredibly well in terms of reliability/durability. The issue as with all Toyotas is crazy resale. You can buy a 2 year old Ram with barely any miles for the same price as a 5-7 year old Tundra with 70k miles.

A newer used F150 (fine one with optional rear locker) could also be a good fit, again assuming that you're willing to go fullsize truck.

You can see the blur behind the passenger tires (really evident at the bottom of the front mud flap) where they did a bad job ad editing out the dust.
Evidence supports: tires spinning, edited out dust

You can see the bad job they did shadowing below the moving wheels trying to compensate for the dust that made the area appear lighter.
Evidence supports: tires spinning, edited out dust

They did the same thing on the rear passenger mud flap, making the mud flap too dark and the 4WD text too bright, overcompensating for the dust they were trying to hide.
Evidence supports: tires spinning, edited out dust

Nothing about the wheels themselves looks out of place or edited. It can be difficult to get the angles and lighting even close to matching up when doing edits like that, but it looks untouched here.
Evidence supports: tires were spinning in original picture

totally agree
if i wanted childish shitposting i'd just go to /b/
seriously guys
why