Was Britain really irrelevant in the world wars?

Helen is such a slag

No, Germany got cucked pretty hard by the blockade.

Not at all. In WW1 its contribution was huge and although in WW2 it ended up being relegated to 3rd place in the allies it still played a large part.

>get saved by America
Fuck off Yank

Butthurt Britboi can't handle the truth.

> enter late
> troops are relatively untrained and incapable
The only thing America provided of worth was the materials. Should have just left the fighting to the British and Russians, just providing the tanks and guns.

WWI, no, WWII, yes.

British intelligence, American steel, and Russian blood

> useless in WW2
Sole ally in Western Europe, providing beachhead into Europe.
Still massive Navy.
Won North Africa.
Stopped advances into India.
Empire's resources.
Without Britain WW2 would have been unwinnable.

Haha all you guys are wrong.

I remember it like yesterday, I saved your asses in both wars.

No.

In ww1 their support stopped France falling to Germany, and fought the turks in Arabia.

In ww2 they fought a large bulk of the Japanese in Burma, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam, as well as being the only nation in Western Europe to resist Germany.

They then constituted 3/5 of the invasion force on D-day, and charged through the western front. Without England as a base, D-Day never would've happened.

Their support of The Soviet Union also got much needed supplies to them.

This board is full of annoying yanks though who hate the brits so the thread will be full of 'le cucked "empire" anglo XD'

Kek keep believing that.

USSR was gonna steamroll the Germans one way or another. Same for the US and the Japs.

Not at all, we just have to remember that the war was won and lost in the east.

>muh lend-lease

The equipment didn't fight the battles, the men did. And it's a fact that the USSR held out in 1941 without much aid, might have taken them longer but they'd still have won in the end even without it.

Helen Mirren really was a babe.

in come the 'le epic soviet bear badass in soviet russia chuck norris still kill you XD' people

if the western allies hadn't launched a western front stalin would've puppeted all german occupied territory or even made peace with germany for poland and romania

>if the western allies hadn't launched a western front stalin would've puppeted all german occupied territory or even made peace with germany for poland and romania

Yeah that's more or less implied by saying they'd have won regardless... you say it as though it somehow disproves the point that the majority of German casualties, army and air power, were lost on the Eastern Front.

WW1 was: France did the job on land, Brittain did the job on sea, more or less.

no one ever doubts this faggot

this is common knowledge

but that doesn't make the western allies irrelevant

good luck defeating japan on your own

oh and enjoy losing literal hundreds of millions when you try to invade italy and korea too and then enjoy being declared war on by the usa and britain when they won't let you swallow up europe

>Stopped advances into India.
you mean with american supplies right?

False.
Almost as many British infantry died as French.

And Britain won at sea.

Indeed. That's all America was good for: material supplies.

American troops and tactics were laughable. Still are really.

Objectively false, check them casualty rates m8.

>no one ever doubts this

Thanks for agreeing with me.

>but that doesn't make the western allies irrelevant

Who said that they were?

>good luck defeating japan on your own

Check out the Soviet invasion of Manchuria.

>oh and enjoy losing literal hundreds of millions when you try to invade italy and korea too and then enjoy being declared war on by the usa and britain when they won't let you swallow up europe

Uh sure, have fun with that.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties#Casualties_by_1914.E2.80.9318_borders
Nope France win the entente corpselympic after Russia.

Note this word
> almost

Almost 600 000 death of difference in total and 500 000 in military death, that not an almost.

How?

About 200,000.

>literally took Italy, France, and western Germany

Yeah, okay.

By declaring war on the peaceful german tank who didn't see the "Polish border".

Jesus this is delusional.

I'm using the British one.

you're not good in math aren't you just to close the gap from 750,000 to 1,000,000 you need 250,000 add 150,000 to that you obtain 400,000 and even 200,000 lives aren't almost

1.15 m - 0.95 m = 0.2 m

you dense twat.

Are we using the British one or the full Empire?
In one case it's 400 000 the other give 200 000.
Not small number.

yes of course Britain played a role she held the western front in both wars in ww2 Britain took back Africa Britain also managed to persuade the Americans to help in Europe and also helped keep a crippled Russia supplied through the winter

I'm using the 'Empire' figure, as the 'France' figure will include France's empire too. As the French empire *was* France.

If Britain had made peace in May 1940 then the War would have ended and Germany would have retained possession of the continent. People seem to forget this.

The wiki got the french colonial death, it something like 200 000, it give us more or less 200 000 more death than Brittain(and colonie), that still not an almost.

Do you have to die to contribute to war?