Are there any small, sensible city cars that have a decent engine? Toyota Aygo's, or those wimpy Hyundai i10 all come out with a 1.0 or a 1.2L engine, either 3 or 4 cylinder, some are turbocharged, some not. Whatever.
They claim they're so green they will mend the ozone layer and that they will do a million miles to the gallon - both of which they obviously don't (yes i was exaggerating, but the principle still stands). But anyway, that's not the point of this thread...
My query is, are there any city cars with a decent, 1.4L+, n/a engines in said shitty little tinny city cars?
Piss easy mode - no mention of CO2, and mpg's don't matter as much.
This weird little thing came with a 1.6l FSI engine at some point.
Ryan Allen
Doesn't look as small as some of the modern stuff, but that still looks slick.
Landon Rodriguez
Yeah, it's a bit bigger than let's say an Aygo in every way, but not by much. The biggest difference is in length, where it adds like 40cm. Wheelbase is almost identical though.
Nolan Foster
A Aygo isn´t even that slow, these cars are over 100kg lighter than a MX-5. You ounlye have to rev it to get full power.
Adrian Morris
Can't forget about this qt. 1.6l NA engine, rev-happy as fuck, and a great chassis to boot.
Angel Williams
>A Aygo isn´t even that slow >0,076 hp/kg
Jaxon Williams
Toyota Matrix (2ZZ-GE version)
John Davis
It has a pretty good powerband, it reaches max torque @3600rpm and has maximum power untill 6400rpm.
Also a 4A-GE swap is possible.
Oliver Powell
>It has a pretty good powerband, it reaches max torque @3600rpm and has maximum power untill 6400rpm. None of this matters because a car with a 0,076hp/kg power to weight ratio is SLOW AS SNAIL
Luke King
WINNER.
It's only 90cm larger than an Aygo according to Wikipedia. Thought they were larger, huh.
Joseph Moore
>Also a 4A-GE swap is possible. Wait, what? I know this shouldn't surprise me as Toyota hates change so they use the same engine family for a long fucking time, but what?
William Rodriguez
And the Twingo RS, with incredibly similar specs.
Ethan Clark
Although that sounds hilarious, a 4A-GE would be a bit stupid in a city car to be used in daily traffic. Sure, you could shove a V6 from an Accord in there if you try hard enough, but I'm asking about cars that came with large'ish engines in relatively small'ish cars from factory.
Carson Jackson
You can shove everything anywhere if you try hard enough, and know what you're doing. There are people putting 2.9L VR6 in VW Fox's. Anything's possible.
Heard the RS was a bit harsh for everyday use, though. Still nifty.
Adrian Jackson
It is possible and it is insanely overpowered. I´ve seen a 20V blacktop in a 107 (same car)
Since the 4A-GE makes its power in the high rev range, you can still controll your power if you tay in the lower rpm. Also a V-6 engine woudln´t fit under the hood.
Asher Miller
Mazda 2. It's a cute, handles like a race car, gets like 35mpg. It's powered by 100hp 1.5l and weighs 2300lbs, so it's not undrivably slow.
Josiah Nguyen
>they will do a million miles to the gallon An Aygo does that
Elijah Gonzalez
>handles like a race car Well this is how you out yourself as never having even sat in a race car.
Jaxson Nguyen
>Heard the RS was a bit harsh for everyday use There's also the GT, which has a turbo'd 1.2 and puts out 100hp.
Levi Taylor
>Being this autistic Will this of how you out yourself as never have even sat in a Mazda 2.
My 107 (Aygo) gets my about 60 mpg in burger units.(3,9L/100km) Its acceleration is decent since it has this insanely broad powerband as already mentioned. Also it has a verry simple engine with a chain driving the camshafts and it will even take 15W40 shitbox dino oil. (I use 5W30 anyway) I´ve tryed to go wangan with it, while the tachometer only shows 170km/h, I measured up to 176km/h with my gps. Funny thing tho, it gets more silent at speeds above 140km/h.
Justin Barnes
Slightly unrelated but, holy fuck the Lupo came with a 1.6L from factory, 123bhp. Didn't expect the Germans to shove large engines in tiny cars. Thought it was gonna be some limited edition Japanophilic tin can. I'm pleasantly surprised.
Elijah Murphy
>the Lupo came with a 1.6L from factory, 123bhp Huh, didn't know that or I'd just have mentioned that instead of the A2. 123hp isn't bad either for such a tiny car.
