Overlander thread?

For what, so that our road network can get overcrowded and break down, or so that we can tear down half our cities to make way for six lane highways and ruin our cities like the burgersharts did?

What? are you claiming that americans are bad for having infrastructure ?

It is not much work unless you want it to look pretty.

A nice coat of paint for sure with some bedliner in strategic places

>american roads are shit
>american cars don't fit on our roads
PICK ONE!

>Overlanding
>not calling it RV'ing

Why do closet RVers have to call it overlanding? If you're driving a 4WD RV and camping next to a Honda Accord, it's not overlanding.

>UK is smaller than most of our states
>hurrr murica crowded their country with dem big roads!!!!

>>/ORG/
we have a containment thread for you Veeky Forumstists. go there.

what containment thread?

>took 2-3 months off each summer
>months
>each summer
What the fuck do these cunts do that they're allowed to take a quarter of the year off every year?

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>t. Posted from my mothers 150 sq.ft flat

Offroading and Overlanding are not the same hobby. Not even close.
The point of overlanding is to camp in remote areas and cross continents. You are never choosing the harder trail because its more fun, you are trying to keep all your shit from popping out of its shelves.
Pretty much no overlap

Own your own business dumbass.

The US doesn't have ancient cities to destroy you dumb yuropoor.

What about cosmopolis?

Not true at all.
Sometimes the only way to get to the spot is by hard offroading. That is what overlanders are for, remote and offroad.
Granted overlanders dont pick trails because of their difficulty, they pick them to go see what's out there.

That is exactly what user said.
Not the same sport.

luckily most tolls in the US are based on number of axles.

That is exactly what user said.
Precisely the same sport.

I consider myself an offroader as opposed to an overlander, and this too is consistent with my definition of offroading.
You're an idiot.

why not just get a motorcycle and a tent

Because it's a lot more difficult to live away weeks at a time with relative comfort.

>I consider myself an offroader
They are two different sports.
Unless you are living in your rig for alt least months at a time , you are not overlanding.

Fuck if i know. Havibg owned a beat up old dumptruck i would assume a bunch tho. 10/10 would just buy a camper

Can get a 6x6 with 5 ton payload for $5,000 all day. Its not impossible

I used to get around 7mpg in an 80,000 pound semi running deisle fuel. U can pretty much bet unless u have an overly high performance motor you will break 7mpg.

>i spent almost 1000 euros on gas alone by doing a 7 day road trip in europe. with a 1.2 4 cylinder

How is this possible ?
Were you driving 24 hrs a day?

How much can cost something like this?

B

NEET

>For what, so that our road network can get overcrowded and break down,

EU fuel taxes don't all go into infrastructure. Lots of GibsMeDat for the socialists.

Whats in the picture. Surplus military vehicle, welder, some time. Depends on how hardcore you want to go. 20 grand and lots of blood sweat and tears. You can have something to take you anywhere in style.

The practical thing tho is to get a 4door 4wd put some shocks/springs and some 33s. Get some good tents, a good cooler maybe a fridge. You can do that real cheap. 10 grand if you get yourself an old toyota and some good steel/tires/recovery gear and a engine rebuild.

>33s. Get some good tents, a good cooler maybe a fridge
iIf you are only going out for a week or two at a time , i totally agree with you.

Full time though that shit gets old especially if you are doing some seasonal work here and there to supplement your income.

Having a really cool rig turns you from a dirtbag to a rockstar also.
People are excited to see you coming if you have a cool rig and will tell you about places to camp while you are traveling through their area.

Also lets face it, overlanding includes a lot of sleeping in towns and cities. No way you can pitch a tent in a city.

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>10 grand if you get yourself an old toyota and some good steel/tires/recovery gear and a engine rebuild.
Okay so you've got enough money for a 1985 4runner with a rusted out body and a broken transmission, where are you getting the money for all this other stuff?

Less people in europe could afford cars in the 60's.

Hell by that point there were still tons of places in the world that have not had cars within a couple hundred miles of them

Nowadays even !bulu can afford a car.

I spent 18 pounds to drive over 500 miles in a Fiat 500x when I visited England last August.

That 500 miles also included a couple hours of stop and go so it wasnt the most efficient run.

Unless he is considering nice meals and an alright hotel every night then I can't see how he got that figure

>living in your rig for alt least months at a time
Not that I'd put an arbitrary time frame on it, but that is what separates overlanding from general offroading. Whether or not you intentionally choose a "harder trail because its more fun" is also arbitrary. I offroad to get to good spots, not for photo opportunities in a 4x4 magazine.

That'd have to be like 800 miles a day unless gas was like 10 Euro a gallon

What is the best 4 door pickup to turn into an overlander rig?

Probably gm or ford. Lots of aftermarket shit. Or yota.

F-750

Not which brand. Which pickup.

HAHAHAHA HILARIOUS

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AHAHAHAHAHA ITS FUNNY BECAUSE ITS IMPRACTICAL.

Australian company called "Oka 4wd"

>asking about which pickup to get
>illiterate retards in this thread cannot read simple fucking english. Keep suggesting retarded 5 ton trucks and fucking brands and aftermarket companies
>asking for which PICKUP would make a good overland vehicle

Never mind. You faggots are retarded.

Not that guy, but there's nothing illiterate about it. The Oka stated has a GVM similar to a 1 ton pickup. Throw a bed on the back and it meets the criteria asked you fucking dropkick.

I will never understand the point of camping vehicles. Just get a good fun car and stay in comfy middlebrow hotels. Your travels will be much more enjoyable than lugging around in a 0,5 mpg truck which is also a shitty bedroom.

>15 year old military truck
Thread title asks about "15 year old military truck"

and you're banging on about pickups? Fuck me you're dense

There are no hotels in the wilderness bub

No dude, offroading in a stripped down jeep and a back up crew or spending the weekend romping around the woods in your hummer is not the same hobby as crossing south america in a camper.
Its not even similar.
Thats like saying motorcycle racing and antique car collecting are the same hobby because both use wheels.
no

That's exactly what over landing is. And in my opinion the true spirit of off-road driving.

forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/50799-Democratic-Republic-of-Congo-Lubumbashi-to-Kinshasa

Take these two for instance. Their aim is to simply drive across the Congo in a direct "road" route.

They try taking the easy way on the roads that they're on but they still get stuck often and damage their vehicle from time to time.

Great read

Some round faced Belgian man and his petite little girlfriend get themselves into situations where your average, tanned 'murkan, 275 lbs gym buff, driving on super swampers would start crying.

>tfw no step van to lift and overland

>No dude, offroading in a stripped down jeep and a back up crew or spending the weekend romping around the woods in your hummer is not the same hobby as crossing south america in a camper.
I didn't say it was strawman. Infact, I literally stated "I consider myself an offroader, not an overlander" if you've been following.

>That's exactly what over landing is.
Not arguing that, but not everybody has the same goal when it comes to overlanding.
Impressive read that link.

I'm currently 6 months into a pan-America bike trip (DR350, perfect for the job) and have talked to a bunch of the old rich Euros in overland trucks. You WOULD NOT FUCKING BELIEVE what they pay in fuel, in order to save a few bucks on accommodation (million dollar truck, sleeping in some gated car park to save $5 on a room). I really can't wrap my head around how that makes any logical sense for anyone: if you need a vehicle like that, it's for travel in the developing world with shit roads, but hotels/hostels in the developing world are CHEAP.

...also as someone said above, ferry fees for huge vehicles like that are horrendous. Plus have fun getting RAPED by customs at every border you cross (where a motorcycle is usually just waved through, with those big trucks they're pricing out your used underwear for taxes and duties).

The one place I've traveled (RealTraveler™ reporting) where a 4x4 really makes sense is Africa, since a proper truck is necessary to get into the parks. But a Hilux with a roof tent will cost a tiny fraction (and be far far easier to get fixed if anything goes wrong) than a Mercedes overlander. Literally everywhere else in the world a 4x4 is massive overkill with no discernible benefit.

wow mate , you are missing the point completely.
hotels suck
tents suck
having your house and all your shit at a remote beach for a week straight is fucking awesome.

This.
If you're idea of overlanding stems from the folk you see in town, you're drawing an assumption based on confirmation bias. And there's plenty of places in the world where 4x4 is necessary.

Those germans dont care where they park up when they are in towns.
They have everything they need on board .
They will do whatever errands they need to do then head off on thier jouney again to some outrageously cool place.
You saw them at the boring part.
Where do you stay on your travels?

Sorry , responded to the wrong user

AFAIK in the developing world the big truck overlanders set up exclusively in gated and guarded parking/camping spots. They're not off by themselves in the wilderness because they'd be robbed/raped/murdered. They're at the same hotels/hostels/campsites as other travellers.

It seems to me that any country that's safe enough to just stop and sleep wherever will have good roads and supplies as to make those big awd trucks unnecessary.

>hey look at this cool camping spot I found on google earth let's go
>I can't
>why not dude?
>I only drive a 0.9L naturally aspirated diesel because anything else is unnecessary.

If you convert everything, we are talking about 5.30$ per gallon in Germany

That's because the big truck overlanders are akin to glamping. The only difference is that to get to the parks in the developing world you need more ground clearance than one of those bus sized RVs

I want one of these bad boys

Not In America m8.
Did a 3 weeks road trip with more than 16.000KM with a 4.2 V8 Class s Mercedes with an average of 12L/100.

>go to org
>bird posting
>tay posting
>Suburban is the best truck no shit
>yota shilling

Yeah na

I believe the user you're criticising is doing touring on an ag/adv bike. If anything he'll be the one getting the the awesome remote camp sites while you are bogged in your 12 tonne six wheeler.

Well i can tell this is not what i saw in mexico.
They did sometimes raft up in groups if an area was super rough.

Sounds like that user is doing hotel rooms or he would see with his own eyes where the overlanders were camping.

In Mexico no matter where you try to camp someone will come to extort money from you. Just look on iOverlander and you'll see that every public land campsite (eg beaches) have a price imposed by some local for dubious services (they'll claim to maintain the road or pick up litter or whatever bullshit, but with the implicit threat of robbery if you don't pay). Only managed to avoid this in a couple very remote beach camping spots in Baja.

I camped most of the time through Canada and the US. Never once paid for camping there, and it was amazing. So many incredibly situated public land campsites, mostly very well maintained and almost always totally to myself.

In cities I couch-surfed with a few nights in hostels.

In Baja I mostly camped, but you're being extorted in most cases for 100-150 pesos a night: what a hostel or cheap hotel room would cost in the rest of the country. Camped some on the mainland at beaches and in the jungle, but always paid (usually very very cheap).

I ended up losing my tent after leaving Mexico, but I can't see anyone sane camping in Guatemala/El Salvador/Honduras/Nicaragua.

anyone ever do any underlanding?
wish i had to dosh for one of these bad boys

MOther of god , how rich are these freaking deuichies that they can spend this kind of money on an RV?

youtube.com/watch?v=mcquoP0oltc

>So many incredibly situated public land campsites, mostly very well maintained and almost always totally to myself.
This. Dispersed BLM/National Forest camping is the only way to go.

Just wanted to bring attention to a very interesting build thread (to me atleast).

Been following this guy for the last 5 years

allrad-lkw-gemeinschaft.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=26452

It's mainly broken english, but still readable

If they are maintained, its not dispersed camping