Please red pill me on Subaru brz, what car would you recommend instead Veeky Forums

Please red pill me on Subaru brz, what car would you recommend instead Veeky Forums

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>Please red pill me on Subaru brz,
maybe ask /pol/ to 'redpill' you

if the pill is red the thread is dead

370Z - same price, better in every point.

The Subaru BRZ, Scion FRS, and Toyota 86 are sports cars.
You will hear a lot of people bitch they're slow. 6.9 second to 60 with a 6 speed manual isn't bad for 200 HP.
The entire point of the car isn't to be fast. It's fun. The entire point of the car is fun and how it feels. As far as sports car go, they're pretty light around 2700/2800 lbs

If you want to go fast, this is NOT the car for you. You can get a Subaru WRX, Chevy Camaro or Ford Mustang for the same price and have a much faster car.

But if you just want the most amount of fun for your money, this is the car to get.

Test drive the Toyota/Scion version before deciding. The suspension tuning is different between the Toyota and Subaru versions. The Subaru is more prone to understeer while the Toyota is more prone to oversteer. It's all personal preference.

>Nissan
>Ever
leave Veeky Forums and never return.

Except unreliable, oil burning, pigfat pile of shit.
Fuck off scumbag

25,000 and 30,000 aren't the same price...

So ass mad. It's honestly not that bad.

My brother has one. It is that bad.

Oh, your brother? Lel

bread on hood

I work at a NEW car dealership.
People trade those piles of shit in all the time.
Everyone bitches about how shitty they are.
Then they go through service and all the techs bitch about how shitty they are.
Nissan is trash

ND MIATA > BRZ/86

>I have no idea what I'm talking about and just blatantly parrot Veeky Forums shitposts
>Consumer reports meaning anything
>Literally every model of Nissan is the same
It's funny how little you actually understand

don't expect it to be fast

EXPECT it to be very fun on the twisties especially.

youtube.com/watch?v=Enp_XZfSRsI

They are both great, relax

Typical BRZ user
>handling!111111
>shit my car is slow
>tune the shit out of it, + 30 hp
>engine failure
>no tuning still engine failure, because shitty boxer can't take full speed for 10 min straight
best car ever, fuck all other cars, especially 6 cyl cars like the 370Z

Youre delusional

...

>trying to deny that VQ's burn oil

might as well be arguing that the earth is flat m80

I have one, its not bad.

BRZ with macpherson strut is a sports car hurr durr

Neck yourself benchracer

Took my BRZ to the track yesterday. Fun but stock tires limit the turning potential. Another guy with aftermarket summers was keeping up with a Lotus, an Alfa 4C and a bunch of M3-M4s.

370Z is ugly as shit, I'd rather get a used 2007+ 350z

>Another guy with aftermarket summers was keeping up with a Lotus, an Alfa 4C and a bunch of M3-M4s.
this

not like any of the shitters on this board with no racing experience ever are going to be doing any hot laps in their shitbox 370Z, kinda makes you wonder why they obsess over lap times they have no hope of achieving

>yfw magazine test drivers in a miata would still asspound you in any car of your choosing

the brz is slower in corners and its break out threshold is so large that every faggot feels like a true racer

B-but its f-fun sss-speed isn-isnt e-e-everything ;_;

>front
>wheel
>drive

So change the fucking tires. it's not that fucking hard.

For you I strongly recommend this car.

This
wtf went wrong

Dude, give up. Benchracers don't actually drive.

>torque dip

good point

what

fucking lel

Is norwaybro in here to defend the gt86 like a posterboy again? :^)

10 reasons the BRZ/GT86/FR-S is not intended as a sports car
1) 200 hp - face it, thats fucking retarded. one thing you need in driving is power
2) no oil cooler, you can't drive at full power for prolonged time, especially with the stock 0W20 oil
3) macpherson struts - srsly? how fking retarded is this? you can't even change it lol
4) prius tires stock - enhance oversteer and makes you feel like a true race driver, but 0 performance
5) centered on oversteer - again, it's not about going fast through corners but feeling like a japanese race driver
6) 200 hp - srsly?
7) 200 hp - what the fuck is wrong with the japanese
8) worst brake pads ever, put it to the other things you should change first
9) 4 cyl boxer with no room (read 0 room) for tuning or engine failure will occur
10) 200 hp, lol,fking chrysler is faster

was this post written by a real live 13 year old?

>80hp@3800rpm
r u confused? how about i stuff your head through that fucking window, that'll unconfuse you right?

got it from a fr-s driver - gues you can drive this car from 12y on because it's so slow

>peak torque at 2500 rpm all the way til 6500
torque at the wheel is what makes you move idiot, ecks dee lrn2physics

no man, you should learn physics
see the peak in power at 3300 rpm and then it goes flat to 3800 rpm?

minus the torque dip
lrn2reed

um, the peak in power is from 6300 to 7000 m8

perhaps you should look up the word "peak" in the dictionary

local and global maximum idiot

I show you a real curve, 370Z

That how a real car looks, straight up, 6 cyl NA

>>Consumer reports meaning anything
That argument is only in regards them not being about to properly test offroaders and performance cars. Reliability surveys are the one thing of theirs you can trust.

>moving the goal posts
>trying to invalidate an *entire range* of the powerband
b-b-b-b--ut muh specific output

You the boxing guy?

Dear OP,

look at the hp curve of the BRZ, this should tell you that it is not a real car but some fucked up thing from the laboratory begging to get shot

wow the nissan internet defense force is out in strength today

who knew a fun little car could BTFO them so hard for no reason?

so why aren't you allowed to drive your mom's Yaris?

Two can play this game my dude

because it's faster than a brz?

My mom's maxima is faster than a BRZ that doesn't make it a better or "fun" car to drive

good that you wrote fun in quotation marks

>I deliberately entered a thread full of things that I do not like
haha you sure did you fucking retard

??

You know that a guy crashed one of the first GT86 in the US while running at 10 mph through a corner because the car is so shitty?

Tyical BRZ/GT86/FR-S
youtube.com/watch?v=RNQPFwnLqco

Same power to weight ratio as an 1998 N/A MR2, but more expensive and uglier.

Because a shitposter like yourself can't fathom that a slower car can be more enjoyable than a faster car

Don't be mad, you can get a turbo kit for 2k USD from one of the broken BRZ

The only correct answer.

If you need to tell everybody that you car makes fun something is wrong.

ITT: Stop liking what I don't like

someone could do a clinical study of autism on Veeky Forums bench racers

as a 370Z driver I agree - buy the Mustang instead of the BRZ shitbox

If you need to tell everybody that their car isn't fun, something is wrong

>yeah i know you have fun in your car and everything but let me tell you why you're actually wrong

Would a V6 Mustang be a decent alternative?

This happens because the BRZ is just too fucking slow
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YES - for sure

So many Triggered 86 shitposters ITT

I bet i could just post a picture of an 86 and within a few hours it would be full of people going REEEEEE V6 MUSTANG, 370Z and hit the bump limit

No. Its like 5000lbs and cant turn.
Plus ford build """"quality""""

I'd rather suggest the V6 Camaro. You get a superior IRS and a more powerful V6

oh wait that already happens and has been happening since 2013

This thread has picked up speed because of how upset a car makes people, sad really

jesus, buy anything with a V6, Camaro, Mustang, 370Z - it's really that easy
don't buy a 4 cyl with 200 hp - how hard can it be

and the worst interior ever put in a 21st century automobile

>buy anything with a V6
>buy
>V6

>forgetting to mention the regular recurrence of rusty half shaft spines and the resultant bearing damage if left unchecked

We're out of chips, but there's still plenty of Torque Dip.

And transmissions blowing up and overheating if you drive it hard

Any aftermarket header fixes that.

>More expensive than a C5Z
>Slower than a C5Z
Buy a C5Z.

>Any aftermarket header moves the torque dip to another RPM
ftfy

If theyre still making these in a couple of years time I'm having one.

Maybe in a couple of years it'll have an I4 or I6 instead of a retarded-ass boxer

Good for you.

I'm just a lowly youropoor who dreams of mad skiddz and roundabout fun in the rain...

>he has to spend money to fix his grand canyon torque drop

Sorry some people don't take
>Nissan
As a legitimate reply to why the 370z is a better car than the 86.

>870kg
H*cking Christ that's amazing, wonder what was done to cut down so much fat on it.

>Wew lad i can really feel the road! I've never had this much fun riding behind a minivan! Who needs enough horsepower to overtake a Honda Odyssey? For the low price of 27k you too can indeed have fun(TM)!

Oh look, it's that one dork that knows NOTHING about cars

why not buy a fun sporty car that actually looks good?

>Fiat
GTFO

FIAT...

NEVER!!

These will be the new Miata in a decade or so, mark my words. The bang for buck is just lacking my dude, 25k for 200 horses and 2800ish pounds with meh tires isn't a bargain for me. Get one used, but again the problem is going to be that everyone abuses these poor things and stuff, get used up like condoms when all the miatas fade away and die.

Can't hear you over the amount of fun I'm having in my gt86. I just can't believe I didn't pay 27k to ride behind Dodge Grand Caravans and Nissan Rogues sooner!

>with macpherson strut is a sports car

MR2 has McStruts, nobody with an MR2 complains about the handling.

86/BRZ has DoubleWish in the back wheels.

Too bad you were too stupid and bought a boring Accord to beat Civics at the stoplights