READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT >Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support: 1. Be in Japanese locale 2. Read the Readme 3. Read the wiki below 4. Google it
This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels. E-celeb shitposting is not allowed. Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion
noo pls don't ignore my thred we need cool guys like u in it
Jace Miller
this thread sucks make a new one
Luke Reed
at long last /vn/ is reclaimed from the /jp/ saracens
Nolan Thomas
Chrono clock torrent when?
Kevin Ward
By popular demand, real new thread.
Henry Carter
fuck off, threadsplitting is against the rules JOP scum
Tyler Fisher
Why don't they go to the /jp/ thread again ? I'm new to this. Shit looks comfy.
Wyatt Hill
Good question
Cooper Phillips
we still don't know
Lucas Peterson
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Daniel Hughes
I... see. Guess "those" are everywhere.
Liam Long
I fucking love clockup
Ayden Thompson
>popular demand >no one is posting in your thread Haha, fuck off, JOP.
Kevin Kelly
I know they already have /jp/, but why not have a separate thread here for the JOPs if they are so persistent?
It would be fun watching no one ever post there.
Jason Jackson
Best girl
Anthony Adams
>It would be fun watching no one ever post there. You just answered your own question. A dead thread gets bumped off the board.
Brody Kelly
damn straight.
Xavier Walker
You mean like the other thread that was made as an alternative to this one?
Nolan Rodriguez
Yes, that's what gave me the idea.
Ryan Young
they don't care about VNs discussions. some guys are genuinely mad about shit getting translated, and want to share the butthurt, some others are your typical run-of-the-mill "lulz i trol" wastes of space. just hide their posts or report, and move on
Brandon Wilson
So looks like this new OP should be the norm if most people prefer it this way.
where's the "I don't give a fuck since shitposters are gonna shitpost anyway" option?
Logan Miller
> if most people prefer it this way. that's not how it works, user
Alexander Barnes
Truth is most people don't care either way, 90% of the regular posters here don't even bother reading the OP and the ones that do nitpick on that small detail are just doing it for the sake of shitposting.
Austin Nguyen
Do you?
Juan Wilson
>tanned Amane
Adrian Morgan
Meaty thighs.
Levi Rivera
Are there any well written VNs? It looks like most are mindless copies of one another with cliches and tropes we've seen a hundred times already, with copy-paste characters
How come japs can't tell a decent story?
Nolan Cooper
pretty hard not to care when they're spoiling CGs and shit. same for the OP no one cares but keeping it as is is just an incentive to continue shitposting, however small it is
Wyatt Green
Define well written. If you want actual literature then go read an actual book, don't waste your time with laotian cooking recipe books.
While I do agree that a lot VNs follow the same themes and tropes, theres a bunch of them that don't and stand out from the rest, you just gotta find something you like.
Eli Sanders
Himawari was tightly written with mature themes if you ask me.
Luke Roberts
maybe they seek their decent stories elsewhere. the medium is as old as videogames basically, it had way enough time to adjust to its consumers needs
Jason Sanchez
People that are into this medium can't handle mature stuff, the second something doesn't have routes, moe or porn they won't even look at it.
Asher Kelly
>tightly written lol
Samuel Green
I agree. Couldn't spot any inconsistencies.
Chase Green
True. If someone wanted to write a serious story, they probably wouldn't do so in VN form
Oliver Rivera
because they can read a book, watch a movie, read comics etc... when they want this stuff you're talking about. tell me what the VN format can do that any of the others can't
Ryder Barnes
VNs allow for more knowledge of at least the main character through the 1st person narrative (then there's cases like 11eyes where the VN changes perspectives and allows you to get in the heads of other characters) >but books allow that too Books don't have images, voices, sfx and a soundtrack
Gabriel Green
>VNs allow for more knowledge of at least the main character through the 1st person narrative Lol, what? Books do it just as much. And unlike VNs there are way more good protagonists in books.
>Books don't have images, voices, sfx and a soundtrack Oh, so you're like a kid who needs a picture book. How cute.
Angel Cruz
You're talking like moebutas read books you can't do Ever17, Sharin no Kuni, Subahibi, Yu-no, Fata Morgana, Island, Muv Luv, among others. They all pull a trick that is unique to the medium or benefit from in a much greater way other medium could.
Gavin Price
>look at how mature I am because I have mature hobbies like books. Kill yourself. Why are you here instead of in Veeky Forums if you expect to talk with people who like books?
Alexander Reyes
>I read visual novels for the "plot"
Christian King
>Books don't have images, voices, sfx and a soundtrack like huh... movies, anime and videogames ? i thought VNs didn't have mature writing, stuff and shit ? are you trying to ruse me ?
Christopher Morales
>Fata Morgana I am pretty sure there is tons of shitty books about metally ill trannys.
Dylan Cook
I believe you. After all, you are the thread's authority figure on mentally ill trannys.
John Cruz
Kek. Btfo
Ryan Gonzalez
Nice reading comprehension, the topic was that it does something you can't do on other mediums, mainly all the mindfuckery with the backlog.
Austin Lee
>tfw too intellectual for literature and read mature vietnameses powerpoint slides insead.
Camden Mitchell
SAVAGE A V A G E
Benjamin Hill
Big, meaty, thighs!
Hudson Ortiz
>porn is holding back the medium
Parker Price
>movies anime and videogames Adressed in my first point. They don't have a 1st person narrative and tend to be shorter, so I don't connect with the characters like I do with a VN. It's both the 1st person narrative and the images, voices, sfx and soundtrack
Cameron Morgan
>I think visual novels can be "deep"
Joshua Diaz
>They don't have a 1st person narrative You are retard.
Julian Watson
>Kisara's footjob scene in Eroge! wew
Jordan James
Woah I'm surprised 企画屋 is still going, I wonder if Maruto or Hiei still do work.
Colton Russell
>reading VNs is childish. Real mature adults like me read books
Jayden Gomez
>footfaggotry eww
Xavier White
Chrono Flop torrent when?
Carson Foster
Maybe some videogames do. But movies and anime? Nah. Why do you think people who haven't read the VNs and only watched the adaptations fail to grasp Shirou? Because internal monologues don't work in anime. So anime only people lose a lot of the characterization and reasoning behind Shirou's actions by not knowing what he's thinking.
Jace Turner
>>like huh... movies, anime and videogames ? but these don't have the budget that exceeds my imagination, user
>Why do you think people who haven't read the VNs and only watched the adaptations fail to grasp Shirou? Because UBW anime was a dogshit? Internal monologues was pretty good in Fate/Zero.
Carson Nelson
Fate Zero was based on a book though, and it has a lot less internal monologues
Bentley Stewart
Was the f/z light novel done in first person?
Chase Bennett
No
Kayden Kelly
Sure let's waste the already limited runtime with monologues and stop the fight every second to get what the characters are thinking. That sure won't raise any complaints of fights being mostly people standing around. Nope. Also, wow I sure am compelled to take you seriously when you can only insult me without providing any counter argument
Aaron Hill
I wonder what the Dies anime is going to be like without the fuckloads of narration in the dialogue It'll probably be Marie's route which would be the best for that plot-wise I suppose but still...
Kevin Howard
You have your own thread.
Jose Campbell
Dies irae translation is finished so it's okay.
Jordan White
I LIKE LOLIS!
Jaxon Cooper
>and stop the fight every second to get what the characters are thinking
You really are retard
Luke Reed
Dies irae translation is ruined by shitty rewriter though. Anime is our only hope to experience true Dies Irae.
Cameron Phillips
Pedos get out.
Jose Price
Not him, but you sure sound like the retarded one here, bud.
Zachary Long
You aren't addressing his arguments, just going "hurr durr retard" over and over again, like a mong
Angel Ortiz
>Anime is our only hope to experience true Dies Irae. Half way, no way will the subbers do a better job anyway, and half way, with almost certainly 3 of 4 routes being cut, and on top of that a ton of narration being cut, no way will the anime come close.
Henry Gonzalez
You'll be glad to hear MG's secret project is actually a lolige. Most likely. Probably. At least in an alternative timeline.
Blake Adams
Schizos get out as well.
Carter Sullivan
this is what usually happens when a moege manchild tries to have a conversation
Levi Wilson
Best girl Best scenes
Jace Howard
>You will get to experience Dies Irae in your lifetime
Kevin Sullivan
You can have characters have internal monologues while fighting you know. They don't have to stop fighting to think.
Jace Cook
>Sure let's waste the already limited runtime with monologues and stop the fight every second to get what the characters are thinking. Welcome to anime, manga and VNs in general, enjoy your stay.
Aaron Price
let's hope that shit is as good as they say
Lincoln Brown
In an animated medium, talking takes more time than fighting. You either need to have the monologues at light speed or need to slow down the fight. And then there's the problem of the limited episode count.
Eli Flores
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Noah Baker
The prologue they posted on youtube looked decent enough, I didn't really enjoy the bad guys talking all pretentiously and chuuni but I assume that will be more bearable once they get some better development
Grayson Gonzalez
In a VN, it feels more natural because from beggining to end, you're reading the MC's thoughts Also, there aren't any worries of fitting the story within a time limit
Connor Lee
Yeah, either way doesn't work. Slowed down fight, not enough episodes. Normal paced fight, not enough time for the narration to be spoken. Conjueror said it took him 80-some hours to read Dies irae. That would take around 240 episodes of anime, not even mentioning that he reads way faster than people speak. Dies anime is getting 13 or 26.
Ethan Howard
>bad guys talking all pretentiously and chuuni dropped.