BMW

>next-gen 1 series will be FWD and AWD only with 3cyl and 4cyl engines only
>have to buy a x30i/d to get a inline 6 these days, the brands former staple
>next generation of 1/2/3/4/5 series will probably be 4 cylinders across the board
>every single car they sell right now is turbocharged (in most markets)
>cars getting bigger and fatter every year making them way too big for the European market
>M brand watered down to piss thanks to it being slapped on almost everything including SUV's
>looking more and more like generic Hyundia's/Kia's as time goes on
>focus on gimmick bullshit like hand gesture control and parking car with the key
>9/1 ratio of automatics to manuals sold on M cars
>next generation M cars will almost certainly be automatic only thanks to complicated hybrid and electric turbocharging drivetrain they are likely to use
>M cars will also probably start using AWD now like Mercedes AMG products are right now thanks to the unnecessarily high power outputs
>no longer a luxury brand since every piss poor faggot on minimum wage can finance one

So it's pretty obvious BMW has fallen off a cliff since Chris Bangle in the early-2000s started ruining their designs and making everything look like half-baked concept cars, and they've been steadily getting worse as time progressed.

How long until BMW is officially dead and buried as an enthusiast brand?

>>next-gen 1 series will be FWD and AWD only with 3cyl and 4cyl engines only
The 2 series is replacing the 1 series and is still RWD/I6
>>have to buy a x30i/d to get a inline 6 these days, the brands former staple
Turbo I4s are more economical and people buying lower BMW models don't give a shit
>>next generation of 1/2/3/4/5 series will probably be 4 cylinders across the board
Not an argument
>>every single car they sell right now is turbocharged (in most markets)
BMW turbos are overall pretty reliable and free of any discernable lag, I actually like them because they give the cars a shitton of low-end torque compared to the NA V8s/I6s
>>cars getting bigger and fatter every year making them way too big for the European market
Again, 2 series.
>>M brand watered down to piss thanks to it being slapped on almost everything including SUV's
M sport is not the same thing as M
>>looking more and more like generic Hyundia's/Kia's as time goes on
You could say that about any car, the F32/F22 still easily stand out in a crowd
>>focus on gimmick bullshit like hand gesture control and parking car with the key
They're not "focusing" on that, if you don't like it don't use it. Veeky Forums shitposts about any feature beyond AC in any car but they're commonly pretty nice to have when you give them a chance (I miss my keyless entry/start)
/1 ratio of automatics to manuals sold on M cars
Nothing to do with BMW

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>>next generation M cars will almost certainly be automatic only thanks to complicated hybrid and electric turbocharging drivetrain they are likely to use
Slippery slope and also not an argument
>>M cars will also probably start using AWD now like Mercedes AMG products are right now thanks to the unnecessarily high power outputs
We're complaining about power now? At worst they'll offer AWD, it doesn't mean you have to buy it
>>no longer a luxury brand since every piss poor faggot on minimum wage can finance one
They've been doing that forever, exclusivity has nothing to do with luxury

Your arguments are pretty much either all baseless speculation, misinformation or "NOO THINGS ARE CHANGING AND I DON'T LIKE IT I'VE NEVER DRIVEN IT BUT I KNOW I HATE IT"

.........you would think you get quality comparable to the price you pay..

nope, instead you get a bmw, where the price far exceeds the quality of the product!

>The 2 series is replacing the 1 series and is still RWD/I6
Yeah fuck having a 5 door hatch with RWD.
>Turbo I4s are more economical and people buying lower BMW models don't give a shit
The fuel economy gains are absolutely minimal and they sound like hot garbage compared to an inline 6.
>Not an argument
Yes it is, see you in two years time (or less) when I'm right.
>BMW turbos are overall pretty reliable and free of any discernable lag, I actually like them because they give the cars a shitton of low-end torque compared to the NA V8s/I6s
Don't care, turbo's don't belong on an M product.
>Again, 2 series.
This will grow with time until its as big as a 3 series, it's already quite a wide car.
>You could say that about any car, the F32/F22 still easily stand out in a crowd
Fair enough, but no they don't.
>They're not "focusing" on that
They are.

cont

Kek, OP's baseless speculation BTFO.
Lol, that's not even an argument.

>Slippery slope and also not an argument
Is an argument though, there's no way they'll mate a hybrid system to a manual as you lose the electric only ability, and why do it if no one is buying them?
>We're complaining about power now? At worst they'll offer AWD, it doesn't mean you have to buy it
Yes, 600bhp and retarded amounts of torque means you can't rev it out unless you're on a huge open road. The E60 M5 had a perfect amount of power and torque.
>They've been doing that forever, exclusivity has nothing to do with luxury
Sounds like you were born this century.

Stop posting.

>complains about small city cars being optimized for city use
>complains about comfy luxobarges getting comfort luxury features
>complains about """"unnecessary power"""" in power-oriented cars
>complains about 'muh badge exclusivity'

>it's a teenage busrider that has never owned a BMW shares his valuable opinion episode

BMW marketing team out in full force tonight.

i wasn't arguing, just stating facts.