>Which heroes should I buy? Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.
Anub is fine and heroes that you are meant to draft in the last 2 spots are fine.
Nathan Torres
>tfw you get smoke another russian with your prism towers
Jason Watson
I'm fine with heroes having more specialized roles, but then they need to fucking do something about ETC and Malfurion who are just generally good at everything.
Kevin Lopez
>Waygate Usage Consistency >The use of Waygates across all relevant maps (Towers of Doom, Haunted Mines, Blackheart's Revenge) has been unified with a common ruleset: >Channels will not be interrupted by taking "normal" damage >Channels will be interrupted by Abilities such as stuns and knockbacks >Waygates can now be channeled while mounted This doesn't affect all channels, right? It only affects "waygate" channels?
Wyatt Martinez
why are none of the "big" streamers fucking streaming... looking at you Horsepants, Mewn, grubb tricksler and chu8
Jose Edwards
/hotsg/ needs their own streamer already and i'm not talking about sellouts like that akai guy
Liam Morales
>Blackheart's Revenge what is this
Noah Clark
The Brawl map with cannons.
Chase Murphy
>Giving a shit about streamers
Christian Wilson
a blackheart's bay themed brawl happened super early on and was super hyped up and has some unique announcers going on and shit but i don't think it has been available ever since that one week it's been on hots brawl
Lucas Ross
I can stream once I pick up a mic but I have no cam and I'm a shit streamer anyway
Justin Peterson
probius is a better gazlowe especially now that gazlowes turrets got nerfed
wtg blizzard
Landon Mitchell
>They got rid of the gold you'd for helping people get Cho'Gall.
So what's the point of helping anyone get him? So I can spam boring as fuck AI games for people. Yeah that's not happening.
Connor Russell
>helping people get cho'gall
??
Connor Torres
From what I understand they're bringing back that quest that awards the Hero to people for free. Like, play X games with a friend who owns Cho'gall and you get him.
The original event also offered gold to the original owner of the Hero, which was a bit of an incentive for people to help and all that.
I didn't get a chance to try out all his builds but he does lack the sustained damage of Gaz, at least outside his Pylon R
Tasty burst and waveclear though, even if he has a nonexistently weak and short ranged auto attack
Ayden White
>tfw you feel bad for the other team
Isaac Wilson
>update >launch game >Probius isn't out >Valeera free week HAHAHA kill me
Double Cross or BZZT! Alarak?
Thomas Perez
double cross although I like Mike "you like it in the back you get alarakd" pence build to
Easton Ward
>update PTR >launch PTR >probius is available >all but the last few heroes are available for testing >reworks >that new interface
Kayden Torres
Is this game, in its current state, worth getting into? Does it have a lot of depth to it? What's the ranked community like?
Jason Martin
>read patch notes >"We’re currently doing a pass on our Warriors," >look at all the changed warriors >no etc changes >no muradin changes
Michael Edwards
Artanis buffs when? I want him to be a tank again.
Dylan Walker
If you're not good you'll get angry at the game and call it"dead" and "unbalanced" and "garbage" and quit ranked, but still play QM even though it's much worse. Ranked community is like any other, but without all chat you can't fuck with people until after the game.
Adrian Thompson
That tier list is physically triggering me. Random ass Dehaka in S, Tass is in S despite Valla being in 1, you know, the reason you pick Tass in the first place. Malf and Reh, which are basically filler healers.
????????
Jaxon Hernandez
...
Lincoln Edwards
just walk away xd
Josiah King
New player here. How accurate is the tier list in the OP? I always like playing characters with ice magic whenever a game has them, but Jaina is listed as just "viable" So far I've tried her, Leoric and Muradin, Leoric feels pretty solid all around.
Asking again because apparently this is the thread that is most likely to stay up? Maybe?
Charles Cook
which bread? this one is slightly less dead
Joseph Morales
This one I guess.
Asher Watson
why aren't you playing the best hero in the game?
Charles Bailey
I stopped playing when Lúcio was just announced and murky was about to be changed What happened so far? How come we are getting another character so soon? Are we still dead?
Ethan Robinson
They removed Varian stun.
Christian White
>still no uther changes
Anthony Cox
Why? Could've just increase the cd when you pick that talent
Logan Williams
Shitters complaining about it. Also, combined with taunt, Varian could lock you down for a long ass time.
So are Muradin, ETC and Arthas the only viable general tanks now?
Tyrael's now garbage tier Jojp is now melted by anyone that has even the slightest amount of spell damage Anubarak is now so far into his niche that you shouldn't pick him unless the enemy team is a five mage meme team
What the fuck is happening?
Zachary Turner
Tyrael was always kind of garbage in hero league because he works best in cooperation.
Levi Thompson
kek
Robert Martin
>have 2 supports on the team >one is tass because they picked nova >die to nova and gaz toplane as naz solo >ask for help >no one comes >almost die and have to recall >ask for help again >nothing happends >beacons activate >ask for help for the 3rd time >no one comes >say gg i cant 2v1 toplane >get reported for being "toxic" and "tilting my teammates" all tassadar had to do was rotate top with me and we would have been golden, but instead of got all mad when i couldnt 2v1 a nova and gaz for the beacon top
Jackson Sanchez
stood in his laser for 6.8 seconds, you deserved that.
Ian Morales
Maybe you should have asked more nicely
Gavin James
as someone who used nazeebo to climb out of mmr where people actually pick nova, you just wanna sit behind tower and safely farm your passive and get 4 if they're doing dumb meme shit with the early lanes
you have to assume everyone is retarded and cover all your bases
Jack Gutierrez
I think that was your fault, not theirs. Clearly you need to work on your communication skills
Jaxson Barnes
Sure, but you still had imposing will, which meant you could still do pretty well if you convinced your team to just deathball.
Xavier Martinez
>threadwars >winning this game with this comp
Liam Collins
why muradin or etc doesn't get touched more is really strange. it's like they designed the best tanks at first and now every tank after have to have some specific niche
Jayden Collins
I feel like the damage on probe turrets is really very strong but they don't last long enough to use as like a stationary defense somewhere. The best use for them is warding off stealthies with the full turret build and that's it.
Oliver Williams
So since they are only buffing meme heroes like murky and gazlowe, who is next?
Luis Baker
>murky >cho'gall >gazlowe
Oh, dear. Abathur is up next, isn't he?
Cameron Rodriguez
>The best use for them is warding off stealthies with the full turret build and that's it.
If only they lasted long enough for that.
It's one turret that lasts for 11 seconds and is unusable for the first second, does pathetic damage, can't be manually targeted and doesn't even prioritize heroes. Even if you take the talent that reduces the cooldown every time it hits a hero, you only get an overlap of about 2-3 seconds before your first turret dies. Not to mention that the turret is utterly countered by summons or simply killing the pylon or turret itself.
I see Probius being a niche pick for maps like Blackhearts bay or tomb of the spider queen, where you can use pylon overcharge to reliably zone out the enemies from turning in the objective
David Stewart
I think the talents for turret need to be rethought. He's still a good area denial and burst hero, but turret feels like a waste.
Jose Ross
please god just end this Valeera free week already
Angel Sanchez
he got buffed a few patches ago.
Julian Long
What's wrong with her?
Dominic Turner
She's constantly on both teams. I don't care about facing her since she's shite but I always get the XxXNarutoXxX master ninja on my team who is constantly trying to 1v5 and gets BTFO every time.
Last five games I've had a Valeera on my team with 15+ deaths.
Jayden Ross
>arthas reworked twice >gazlowe reworked twice >tyrande still has 80% useless talents since the beta and is practically unplayable >lunara still has aweful wisp talents and terrible level 1 talents while her 20% movement speed is creeped way out and her damage is too low >leoric still worthless the last time they touched him was to give an already bad character a nerf to a bad heroic wasting too much time reworked characters they already reworked
Owen Watson
We could have done without the Arthas rework, but Gazlowe needed one
Gavin Brooks
just lost due to team wanting to base race a butcher and valla even though we've been winning all the teamfights on warhead. the stupid shit i have to see
Evan Wilson
The worst part is Arthas really didn't need it.
he needed some talent diversity buffs Rune Tap was shit but overall, he was viable.
Meanwhile, uther has gotten so far behind that I haven't seen him in months.
Gabriel Cooper
>nerfing johanna >etc untouched Why even nerf her?
Benjamin Hill
gather minerals is fun and balanced
Here's how we fix turrets
>change the functionality of the turret cooldown reduction entirely or change the hero target requirement
or alternatively
>make turrets like SC where they last indefinitely so you can drop them around the map in an unpowered state that can still be killed and provide little vision, but only a few can be powered by a single pylon requiring more pylons to run more turrets (ex. 3 turrets per 1 pylon). Prevents immense infinite power creep from unlimited turret hives or some crazy cheese shit. Fair and balanced
Leo Bell
Is there a possibility they'll buff Probius before the patch?
Oliver Russell
Minor changes possible, major changes unlikely.
Christopher Walker
Could it be enough to make Probius viable? I really want it to be good
Lucas Brown
Probius is a specialist, meaning his viability will always vary by match.
Right now he's insanely good at locking down areas, so he could be good on maps like Sky Temple, Infernal Shrines, Battlefield, Braxis, Blackheart, and Spider Queen.
He's fine, great wave clear and unlimited resources makes him more viable than most heroes even with a shitty turret build.
Cooper Howard
Lunara buffs when? She is literally shit at everything.
Grayson Parker
Uh, no, she's not. She's a very powerful damage-dealer and kiter, as well as a hard counter to most stealth heroes, that are currently very popular.
Henry Reyes
Use Lunara to shit on Valeera during this free week's rotation.
Brody Cruz
She has low damage, her speed isn't enough anymore and she dies very fast. someone like Valeera at 20 can blow her up in 1 or 2 seconds.
Her 20% base movement speed is actually pretty weak, she has no burst either, her slow is also completely garbage. She is only for spread damage, she has the lowest burst of any assassin by a fair amount.
Elijah Taylor
>5 new slots on ptr
Five more heroes from /our guy/ Dustin and then Abdul Mohammed Durkadur officially starts making content.
What do we expect from the remaining 5 from based Dustin?
Jackson Myers
>four stack wants to throw at draft for stitiches shenanigans
it's not even the weekend. damn. i wish ptr was live now. i want to play new arthas
William Thompson
>She's a very powerful damage-dealer and kiter
not true her damage is actually pretty low she can do spread damage but her damage in general is low as fuck and she isn't even a good kiter compared to a lot of other currently good characters
Adam Sullivan
Of course Valeera can blow her up, she's an anti-assassin, and at level 20 she makes huge damage. That's a given and ought to be that way.
Lunara definitely doesn't have low damage. You don't play her correctly, it seems. In the right hands she's one of the best damage dealers in the game, right now.
Luke Wilson
>probius has an anti-valeera build/kit
day ONE buy
Brody Turner
You are definitely mistaking high damage for her spread slow damage. If you get her poison on a lot of people you will get high damage
If a lunara is ever out damaging any assassin on single targets that person was playing like trash. There is a reason she is not played, because she is too easy to kill, has no burst and is just all around useless currently.
Lucas Gray
>overwatch >overwatch >warcraft >diablo >classic
Benjamin Howard
>In the right hands she's one of the best damage dealers in the game, right now.
i'm sure that's why she was picked zero times in the tournament this weekend and why she is played only 9% of the time in master/diamond because she is the best damage dealer in the game
That's what you get for playing quick meme, you fucking idiot.
Isaac Hernandez
Shouldn't we know the new rotation tomorrow by now from EU?
Jaxon Butler
Who hasn't already seen this post one hundred times? Raise hands
No, US comes before EU
Dylan Roberts
Turret build is so close to being good it's sad.
Blizzard please fix.
Michael Rodriguez
>we want to bring him buffs but make sure he isnt too broken in quick match! >they proceed to do nothing to tone down any of the heroes that shit all over everything in quick match
hmmmmmm
Adam Richardson
I've only seen it 57 times
Jose Brooks
I think you mean to ask people to raise their hooves now, aren't you, ponyfucker?
Daniel Hughes
How does one Zeratul effectively?
Luke Bell
Keep it up user
Dominic Richardson
Watch people who are good at playing him and emulate.