I can either buy a Focus ST cash or finance a Focus RS (just 12 instalments, nothing crazy)...

You didnt even read the recall
Typical ford fag ignorance

buy a 'stang GT lmoa

not a flashed up fwd econobox or an unreliable meme machine

What appeals to you in either of these cars?
Im genuinely asking.

I own a Focus SE and love it, I wish it had more power.

Youre going to lose about the same money on both so yes go with the rs

Get the RS. Fwd a shit. Drift mode, torque vectoring, higher output engine. It's a good investment.

Well, the ST is a huge pile of shit, and as long as you don't put the RS on the track and keep it stock, the RS is a way better choice.
Though I don't recommend either.

Buy a BRZ instead

Think about it. Everyone is going to be wetting thier pants in a few years when they eventually come off the market. They will end up like what the quattros and lancias are today

>They will end up like what the quattros and lancias are today
focus fanboys actually believe this lmao

Its a ford focus.
No one will think this.
Thats like saying the SRT4 will be a collectors car and highly sought after.
Wont happen

200 bhp vs 350 bhp which can be tuned easily

HMMMMMMMM

Im tired of all the children on this board that think HP makes a car good.

MK1 RS is a future classic though

(you)

No they won't, the difference between those cars and the RS is that those cars put out insane amounts of horsepower and are well build, the RS is only built for the power it has and has an awful drivetrain.

Its a focus.
A very few amount of fanboys might seek them out.
But the other 99.99999999999% of the world wont care.
You dont see people going nuts for 2.3T foxbody or merkurs or awd escorts.

Yeah you're so going to go around bendy roads every single day and week...

Meanwhile you're actually going to use the power/torque when accelerating off the line pretty much everywhere. BRZ is a nice little modern sporty car but it's not as good of a daily as the Focus RS is

So you need 350hp to get groceries?
No. You don't.
200hp is far more than enough.
Didn't even mention corners.

Reliability is #1 in a street car.
The frs is far more reliable.
Grow up

the focus st sucks dude

this board hypes the shit out of it because ford shills overtook the board and tricked a bunch of kids to buy it as their first time car

get a c5 corvette for 16k instead

Yeah. However there are fans of the v8 foxbody.

Very few because they are worse and more expensive than most newer mustangs.

>So you need 350hp to get groceries?
you need torque
>The frs is far more reliable.
Good luck changing your spark plugs or head gasket.

Stop fanboying, grow up.

>Drift mode

>C5 vette
>Slower than a civic

Pick both

I dont even like the frs.
But its true.
A 60hp honda will get your groceries reliably.
A 350hp ford wont

ST
After driven both the ST was just more fun to drive. You had to work to make it go fast.

Paying 35-40k for an econobox is a dumb idea let alone getting it financed.

12 month finance... dude what's your budget for monthly payments?? Assuming you've got enough cash to buy an ST outright, you'd be financing that $16k. Gonna be like $1400-1500/mo...

just buy a 3k civic

Can you name a major car company that hasn't had a recall in the last decade?

Porsche I think, despite a good list of faulty issues

The RS ride like shit so dont unless you go to tracks days every week and should consider the other 40k hatch (sti, golf R) and the mustang gt/camaro ss.

If you have a racecar and just need a DD, ST is more comfortable while still being sorta fun for daily duty.

Only car/don't have super fun car?

RS.

I don't know why you are asking a bunch of meme-ing bus riders this, but as some one who as owned both the RS is a lot more fun than the ST.

The ST is great, and will be a bit more comfier and get better mpg but the RS is just a whole different level of fun.

Not him, but you're reaching when you're say reliability is the same thing as ease of repair. Head gaskets haven't been argument since like 2004.

Just remember that if they keep churning them out and don't discontinue- like they probably should/will- they're not going to have the dumb meme resale tax they have now.

Have they flashed out the first gear boost block yet?

I'm single, don't have many expenses.

I'll DD it for a approx. year then it will be mostly a weekend car. I can bring it to my home country tax free provided I had it one year before importing it.

>You had to work to make it go fast.
This is the poorfag toyubaru argument.
Oh and Miatas.
Gay.

>thinks being single = more money
LOL. I have a long term GF. She helps with groceries. Pays half of the bills. We swap paying for dinner. Being single doesn't save you money unless you're a fucking pussy who spends all his money on women.

>miatas
They're only good if you get the NA
>toyoburus
Fucking plie of shit built by jews trying to swindle you out of 26k for a car with MUH FEELS when all you feel is jewish dick rammed up your ass for such a shitty purchase.

...

Implying the miata isn't "Muh feels" car, what does an angry soul like yourself drive?

Still, my point stands. I have to work my Kia hard to go fast, because its a shitbox.

Sportcars you should have to work as hard as you can not let it kill you.

Fucking kids these days. I suggest you faggots buy a motorcycle and then get back to me about them 'feels'

>but it's not as good of a daily as the Focus RS is
its a much better daily. just because something is faster doesn't mean its better to commute ni you idiot

holy shit this kid needs to spend less time on pol

>Sportcars you should have to work as hard as you can not let it kill you
no. sports cars are for going fast. a dangerous poor driving piece of shit that constantly wants to spin out makes it a shit sport scar, not a good one

My "sports car" is as well balanced as you could imagine, with a 4.7 0-60. Shit will still kill you if you aren't on your game. Just like my crotch rocket.

Face it, you drive shit cars, and need electronic nannies. You idolize the GTR and don't even have an M endorsement.

Prove me wrong.

A GTO

Something about old miatas are fun. New ones are a cash grab. 20k max and its a good car. Same with toyobaru. Feels like just another slow econoshitbox
I'm looking to buy a motorcycle.

How is the BMW S1000RR?

>How is the BMW S1000RR?
1000x times too much bike for 99% of riders. That said if you are going to be retarded and go balls out, it has amazing traction control and other assists that will probably keep you alive.

That said it is the BEST sportbike out there right now unless you step up to the yamaha M.

How much of a learning curve is it from an 06 CBR1000

Zero. If you can actually ride that bike toward its limit then its just the next step up.

Buy a mazda speed 3, the better part of ford.

>n-no u
errydime :DD

Yes, but it's still a shit ford.

I work for Ford and I can tell you that the only car I'd buy is the new stang.

Its the car everyone will look to as an affordable enthusiast car and an excellent platform for most motorsports, especially rallying.
>awd with customizable front/rear torque bias
>economical engine with enough power for some serious fun
>still safe with lots of tech features
>still a comfortable four door hatch
>plenty being made with many parts similar to other models
>growing aftermarket
What else do you buy if you are on the whip from your wife about getting a family car but still want something respectable and sporty that you can hoon around in with the lads?
Its a future classic in the same way that the toyobaru or the miata are/will be
Take a shit on ferd all you want but I guarantee you that you will be watching it happen

I just wonder when a company will make a decent diff swap for the "rear drive unit" so it'll act like quattro or some other permanent awd system

The wrx is better

Yeah but cvt

Who would go to the trouble the one its got is pretry good

>can only handle 70% of stock torque
>overheats and shuts off
lol

You can also get a mustang for the price of the FoRS. I'd get the mustang.

Then don't buy the CVT. It comes in manual

You can get a mustang GT for the price of the FoRS.
Why would you not get that instead?

Mustang handles like shit and can't turn

>I'm leaving the US and going back to my home country in 14 months. I want to take the car with me.

then deffo get the ST or you will pay out of your ass to keep on the road in what I assume is the UK.

Civic is more reliable for 7k less and only 3 less HP. That's just if you buy new. Next you will say
>fwd
Which shows you are just a deluded 86/brz fanboy.

Because I want one with permanent awd and a wrx sti is 92k in Netherlandistan

Except that is no longer true.

With the same tires a Mustang GT will both out speed and out handle the RS.

I love my ST. Ride isn't too harsh for daily, it's plenty fast on the twisties and it doesn't look completely fucking ridiculous unlike the RS with its huge Hot Wheels wing.

There's so much grip in the corners you barely even notice it's FWD unless you're trying to break the toegay record or whatever.

Although admittedly, if they made an RS estate, I probably would've gone for that.

>dual clutch transmission transmission

fuck off from Veeky Forums and never return thanks

His post really did read like something a 15 year old who's trying to convince his parents he needs a brand new BMW or WRX would say

I can't find a dealer within 300 miles of me that sells the RS.

>spark plugs
literally a 20 minute job with hand tools and never having done it on a boxer before
>head gasket
since 2012 there have been 0 head gasket issues on new subarus, the few there were got warrantied, unheard of for them to go out of warranty on the newer cars, fuck off

kys

No it won't.

Get a Mazdaspeed 3

The RS is the way to go if you have the funds.

>buying a car
>good investment

buying a car isnt a good investment

>financing
>financing something as shitty as a ford with impressively bad depreciation

nigga please

the focus rs has had reports of the engine block cracking

thedrive.com/sheetmetal/8591/this-ford-focus-rs-already-needs-a-new-engine

nope
businessinsider.com/porsche-recalls-911-gt3-engine-fire-risk-2014-2

Grand tour proved the opposite although despite suck the RS dick for 40 mins he end up saying that he prefers the mustang GT.

>be me, single
>have money saved
>go buy a new Focus RS (blue ofc)
>suddenly swimming in pussy
>new chick every day wants my drift mode
>3 get pregnant over one week
>9mo later have to sell RS cuz child support

You could've just had a sweet miata and everyone would've thought you liked dick. Your loss

This post reeks of try hard teenager

What car do you own that is so hectic bro? A GTR is more of a performance machine than a shit heap Shelby cobra, it's irrelevant if the gtr is stable and easy to control unlike the poor handling boomer mobile

People who usually fixate on "muh dangerous but fun handling characteristics" are nothing more than complete garbage drivers who think trying to keep their ass end in line is more important than putting down fast times, because they CANT put down fast times and CANT drive a car in a stable and unprovocative manner (because they don't know how to do anything other than be lead footed and ham fisted brutes)

You're trash kid
Deal with it

Litterally a recall for the latch on the trunk, as if that has any significance with the rest of it

And you know. The fire thing

>weedeater
You might as well vape in your 99 Civic. Buy an adult car.

once again no, it has problems that you are ignoring, the drivetrain is built for the power it has at stock, to upgrade the car, you have to completely redo the drivetrain at 400hp or risk destroying it, I can take any other modern car at the same bracket (STi, Evo, Golf R) and just throw horse power of the same number without having to upgrade the rear axle or the driveline.
>awd with customizable front/rear torque bias
The other cars in the model bracket had better AWD systems that don't over heat after a tad bit of hooning, why do you think ford said "30 guaranteed minutes", because after those 30 hoon minutes, the thing shuts down and goes into fwd limp mode.
>economical engine with enough power for some serious fun
19 city / 25 highway is economical? You can make an Evo have 550hp and still get 33mpg avg, there are 400whp STi's that get high 20s avg.
>What else do you buy if you are on the whip from your wife about getting a family car but still want something respectable and sporty that you can hoon around in with the lads?
Anything Else at this point, I can now push a STi and an Evo over a thousand horsepower on stock drivetrain.
youtube.com/watch?v=Zdiwf748LNQ
youtube.com/watch?v=9qXBYnL71uY
Get out of here you fucking shill.

came here to say this
i bet you are a teenager.

>Is the FoRS really $16k better?
Perhaps not $16k better. It's comparable to Evos and STis so work based off that.

Fuck off you dullard.