I ride pic related on fire roads and trails and they are fun to slide around.
I'm no dirt Rossi and don't expect them to get me anywhere a knobby would but for my 90/10 uses they are decent enough. Biggest problem offroad really is the front tracking. The tread, profile, and width of the tire tends to float and slide instead of biting in.
Never really had any trouble with the rear not getting traction, even when climbing, nothing that can't be solved with more momentum.
I went to an offroad park in Lake Arrowhead last weekend and went on the severe difficulty marked trails and couldn't get up a steep rocky climb, mainly an issue with not being able to hold a line with the front while climbing then slipping into a rocky line that killed my momentum. Other than that I didn't have any trouble with the rest of the trail.
Mud is a different story, they slide all over the place. But not much mud in SoCal.
On/offroad tires are cool if you want to fuck around offroad with some semblance of traction and still being able to handle good on road. Obviously if you're going to spend most of your time off road you'll opt for knobbies. But most of the time I'm commuting on this bike so these tires fit the purpose.
Probably an overly hard tyre compound/old tyre what is it?
Isaiah Fisher
I've been to that thread multiple times and have looked at their vendors list and all their stickers are car bumper size tier.
Can you link me to the one you have on your helmet?
Cameron Rivera
I mentioned in that post, it is a dunlop D606 so a proper 50/50 tyre
Hunter Myers
>he doesnt ride fire trails on sport tyres
Ethan Reyes
oh well d606 is actually a half decent 50/50, never said 50/50 tyres were all bad they are still usable off road or on an adventure bike and they won't chew to bits on the road. just the 80/20's are useless shit.
Jack Morris
The tires that came on your bike are plenty sticky enough to corner hard and get a knee down. Typically new sportbikes come equipped with 90/10 type street/track tires with plenty of grip for hard riding while still having reasonable life. BT016's are and have been default tires for OEMs for years and they are solid dual compound sport tires.
I think your bike came with Battleax S20's which are even better than the BT016's. S20's are what they have been putting on new FZ09's.
S20's are just an earlier generation of the S21's on my bike. I get on fine with them.
Really the problem is you and your confidence in the bike. You don't need race rubber to lean the bike over. You need to get out of your own head and push that inside bar harder.